racer254 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: OTB False It was sold on the global market No I did not agree with the decision but it was a knee jerk to reduce gas prices Biden's Energy Department in April announced the sale of 950,000 barrels from SPR to Unipec, the trading arm of the China Petrochemical Corporation, which is wholly owned by the Chinese government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Remember when the liberal Congress wouldn't allow Trump to continue fill the reserve, at $20 a barrel? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, racer254 said: Biden's Energy Department in April announced the sale of 950,000 barrels from SPR to Unipec, the trading arm of the China Petrochemical Corporation, which is wholly owned by the Chinese government. And since Congress lifted a nearly 40-year ban on most U.S. crude oil exports in 2015, the Department of Energy, which maintains the stockpile, cannot dictate whether companies can export oil purchased from the petroleum reserve, the department said in an email. For each sale the Energy Department announces the type and amount of oil from the four SPR sites that will be auctioned in a competitive bidding process. By law, the contracts are awarded to the companies that make the highest bids, and any company that is registered in the SPR’s Crude Oil Sales Offer Program is eligible to make an offer. The Administration’s use of the SPR is exactly what it was created to do: to address the significant global supply disruptions,” the Energy Department argued in an email responding to our questions about the sales. “Putin’s war on Ukraine destabilized global supply and the emergency sales are meant to provide supply certainty and act as a bridge until domestic production increases, in turn help to mitigate the cost increases for American families.” However, the Department of Energy said that U.S. subsidiaries of foreign energy companies have long been eligible to place bids on SPR oil. Prior to 2015, “it was unlikely any product delivered to the winning bidder was exported outside the US,” the department’s email said. But that changed after the broad export ban on U.S-produced crude oil was lifted that year. If the oil released is medium sour, for example, a U.S. refiner specializing in light sweet crude would not be interested,” he explained. “There may be spare capacity at a refinery in Europe, however, that specializes in processing medium sour crude, so trade makes sense.” (Light and medium refer to the density of the crude oil, and sweet and sour refer to measures of its sulfur content.) and more in a nutshell... https://www.factcheck.org/2022/07/u-s-selling-oil-from-the-strategic-petroleum-reserve-to-the-highest-bidding-companies/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 all by design... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: all by design... So we can sell to China or any other communist country as long as they are the highest bidder......yet I remember back in 2008 we had to bail out auto companies for fear of the chinese buying them and getting trade secrets. At least that is what a few people said. The Energy Department for this admin is going to defend this NO MATTER WHAT, and I am sorry that some here can't understand this simple fact. And BTW, we just arrested a man on charges he saved election information on Chinese servers. But again, it is just fine to sell oil to Chinese companies, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 23 minutes ago, racer254 said: So we can sell to China or any other communist country as long as they are the highest bidder......yet I remember back in 2008 we had to bail out auto companies for fear of the chinese buying them and getting trade secrets. At least that is what a few people said. The Energy Department for this admin is going to defend this NO MATTER WHAT, and I am sorry that some here can't understand this simple fact. And BTW, we just arrested a man on charges he saved election information on Chinese servers. But again, it is just fine to sell oil to Chinese companies, right? change the law/rule and the problem is solved remember 'globalism'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Bidens energy policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 39 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: And since Congress lifted a nearly 40-year ban on most U.S. crude oil exports in 2015, the Department of Energy, which maintains the stockpile, cannot dictate whether companies can export oil purchased from the petroleum reserve, the department said in an email. For each sale the Energy Department announces the type and amount of oil from the four SPR sites that will be auctioned in a competitive bidding process. By law, the contracts are awarded to the companies that make the highest bids, and any company that is registered in the SPR’s Crude Oil Sales Offer Program is eligible to make an offer. The Administration’s use of the SPR is exactly what it was created to do: to address the significant global supply disruptions,” the Energy Department argued in an email responding to our questions about the sales. “Putin’s war on Ukraine destabilized global supply and the emergency sales are meant to provide supply certainty and act as a bridge until domestic production increases, in turn help to mitigate the cost increases for American families.” However, the Department of Energy said that U.S. subsidiaries of foreign energy companies have long been eligible to place bids on SPR oil. Prior to 2015, “it was unlikely any product delivered to the winning bidder was exported outside the US,” the department’s email said. But that changed after the broad export ban on U.S-produced crude oil was lifted that year. If the oil released is medium sour, for example, a U.S. refiner specializing in light sweet crude would not be interested,” he explained. “There may be spare capacity at a refinery in Europe, however, that specializes in processing medium sour crude, so trade makes sense.” (Light and medium refer to the density of the crude oil, and sweet and sour refer to measures of its sulfur content.) and more in a nutshell... https://www.factcheck.org/2022/07/u-s-selling-oil-from-the-strategic-petroleum-reserve-to-the-highest-bidding-companies/ Factcheck.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Snake said: Factcheck.... The enquire is more credible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 hours ago, EvilBird said: gOtTA sToP pUtIN aT aLL cOsTs MoNeY wElL sPeNt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag6240 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 56 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: OTB False It was sold on the global market No I did not agree with the decision but it was a knee jerk to reduce gas prices Worked for a few weeks, now its gone, and here come rising prices again. Thankfully the reserves ran to low/cellar levels before the elections, or people would be dumb enough to believe the current admin had changed course enough to affect everyone's wallet at the pumps.... Now how much will it cost to replenish those reserves?? Pretty short sighted if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Peter: "When the price of gas was high, you said the President has no control over gas prices. Now that is has gone down, the President is taking credit." Jean Pierre: "Peter, it is more nuanced than that and you know it." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Shareholders come first…. US shale producers have kept a lid on growth even as oil prices surged this year, prioritizing payouts to shareholders over gushing wells, a practice Barclays analysts believe will continue into next year. Guess who makes the most money from a gallon of gas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, Snake said: Factcheck.... 13 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: The enquire is more credible. if either of you would care to refute the content, have at it. i gET alTeRNaTIvE nEwS thAT SUitS mY preFfERReD naRRAtiVe... derrrr... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, Mag6240 said: Worked for a few weeks, now its gone, and here come rising prices again. Thankfully the reserves ran to low/cellar levels before the elections, or people would be dumb enough to believe the current admin had changed course enough to affect everyone's wallet at the pumps.... Now how much will it cost to replenish those reserves?? Pretty short sighted if you ask me. don't disagree my oil investments are paying again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: if either of you would care to refute the content, have at it. i gET alTeRNaTIvE nEwS thAT SUitS mY preFfERReD naRRAtiVe... derrrr... If 62% of the public think they are biased, it doesn't matter if they are good or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 5, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 5, 2022 9 month old article but this has been discussed here many times and yes I think Bidens energy policy is awful and he’s not fit for office. The analysis of major oil companies’ financials shows that 11 of the group gave payouts to shareholders worth more than $36.5bn collectively this year, while a dozen bought back $8bn-worth of stock. This apparent focus, rather than on further drilling, has caused some frustration within the federal government, with Jennifer Granholm, the US energy secretary, stating that “the oil and gas companies are not flipping the switch as quickly as the demand requires.” A glut of new oil drilling has made the US awash with oil in recent years, turning the country into a top-level exporter as well as domestic supplier, but this has kept prices low to the displeasure of investors. “A lot of this has been driven by investor sentiment,” said Helima Croft, head of global commodity strategy at RBC Capital Markets, of the current reluctance to expand production. “They don’t want them to spoil the party.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 20 minutes ago, Snake said: If 62% of the public think they are biased, it doesn't matter if they are good or not. 😂 site your source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 44 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: if either of you would care to refute the content, have at it. i gET alTeRNaTIvE nEwS thAT SUitS mY preFfERReD naRRAtiVe... derrrr... Factcheck is just a reach around for fake news. Total trash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 minute ago, ArcticCrusher said: Factcheck is just a reach around for fake news. Total trash. then fuckin refute the article i didn't write it, you won't hurt my feeling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 25 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: 😂 site your source Factcheck.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Just now, Snake said: Factcheck.org https://truthsocial.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 I listen to Dan Bongino during lunch, he's ranting about politifact. It's so wonderful knowing precisely which souRCeS get some of you triggered here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 6 hours ago, racer254 said: The stark differences between Biden and Trump prove why this is happening. Remember, Trump was buying oil when it was cheap and Biden was selling our oil to china. Read the thread I just started…..it’s big oil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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