spin_dry Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Crnr2Crnr said: target age of recipients is late twenties to mid thirties... so yes, it's Dems trying to buy millennials votes Trump tried to buy votes too. Didn’t work. Buying votes doesn’t work. It may have worked to some extent when the voting pool was small, like back when George Washington bought votes with booze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Trump tried to buy votes too. Didn’t work. Buying votes doesn’t work. It may have worked to some extent when the voting pool was small, like back when George Washington bought votes with booze. I know Remember how badly he wanted his name on the cheques? f'ing narcissist... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepybrew Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 kick in the balls for those who paid their own way. and what does it mean for those starting now ? all this will do is allow them to replace that debt with something else, car, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 25, 2022 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) 16 hours ago, Mainecat said: This savings goes directly back into the economy right? Typical liberal thinking. No someone else is paying the tab instead of who accumulated the debt. Same money to the college different people paying. Edited August 25, 2022 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 25, 2022 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 25, 2022 17 hours ago, spin_dry said: Buying votes. Who thinks that this will result in any change to the vote count? Trump sent out trillions in free money with checks signed by him-and he still lost by a landslide. Give your head a shake. On the surface you are correct but COVID was a different animal altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Highmark said: On the surface you are correct but COVID was a different animal altogether. Sorry dude but most of those businesses that took PPP money didn't need it. PPP is a far bigger tragedy than student loans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 25, 2022 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, snoughnut said: Sorry dude but most of those businesses that took PPP money didn't need it. PPP is a far bigger tragedy than student loans. I'm talking about how the voters looked at it....not the validity of the program. I completely agree many didn't need it as they were expected to continue output. Spin is probably right from the standpoint that just as many will resent the program as agree with it. Keep in mind how its handled for future students. PPP was a couple and done and eventually forgotten. Also PPP is likely less known to the average American than this program will be. How will upcoming students react if they don't get the same $10-20K. You know if the admin can pull this off they will. If a President could just hand those on SS $10-$20K I think it would influence some of their votes. Might get an equal negative reaction from some but its still buying votes. Edited August 25, 2022 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Highmark said: Typical liberal thinking. No someone else is paying the tab instead of who accumulated the debt. Same money to the college different people paying. So the taxpayer gets a break? Isn’t this what republicans want? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 We have $300b in Pell Grants outstanding? Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA Contributing Member $poorsledder$ Posted August 25, 2022 USA Contributing Member Share Posted August 25, 2022 I've heard that the typical kid out of college will make 10K more than the kid out of high school. So is the college kid selling sneakers at the mall really making 10K more than the kid out of high school selling sneakers at the mall? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, $poorsledder$ said: I've heard that the typical kid out of college will make 10K more than the kid out of high school. So is the college kid selling sneakers at the mall really making 10K more than the kid out of high school selling sneakers at the mall? No, the college kid is making 10k more because he's selling the sneakers that the kid out of high school is making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 20 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: that's what chafes my ass... all this time and effort spent and NO/NONE/Zero,Zilch discussion about making public universities more affordable or making student loans reasonable. when they (D's & R's) can't solve a problem they just throw our money at it, rather than figuring out the root of the problem. we deserve the elected officials we have... because we don't demand accountability from them, as their employers. It was govenment policy that drove tge cost of university's thrugh the fucking roof in the first place. 30 yrs ago you could afford to pay your way thrugh with a night job if you wanted . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catman800 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Sore subject with me. I paid my student loans off, paid my kids college tuition and now this fucktard wants me to pay for others debt?! Go fuck yourself Biden!!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 25, 2022 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Mainecat said: So the taxpayer gets a break? Isn’t this what republicans want? Where do you come up with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Congress has the check book how is any of this going to get past the courts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Highmark said: Where do you come up with that? How do you not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted August 25, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 25, 2022 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 I mean, tbqf, fuck the banks and fuck the colleges and fuck capitalism that gatekeeps education and knowledge behind a stupid social construct about dead presidents on fancy paper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted August 25, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted August 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Mainecat said: How do you not? You are brain dead and out of touch with reality old Man. Now go change your diaper, you are full of shit again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted August 25, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) On 8/24/2022 at 6:00 PM, Crnr2Crnr said: I know Remember how badly he wanted his name on the cheques? f'ing narcissist... Trump got it on the Joo Shekel instead ! Fuckin unbelievable. Edited August 25, 2022 by EvilBird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 hour ago, EvilBird said: You are brain dead and out of touch with reality old Man. Now go change your diaper, you are full of shit again. Trickle up short stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member ZR800efi Posted August 26, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted August 26, 2022 more inflation. fuck it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Who Pays for Student Loan Debt Cancellation? Canceling federal student loans will cost the federal government hundreds of billions of dollars— and it’s the general public that will eventually end up footing the bill. Canceling up to $10,000 in federal student loans per borrower would cost the government roughly $245 billion, according to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB). If income caps were implemented to limit forgiveness to folks with lower incomes, that would only drop the CRFB’s estimate to about $230 billion. But what exactly does “cost the government” mean? Canceled federal student loans would be immediately added to the federal deficit, which measures how the country owes more money than it takes in during a year. Analysts agree that canceling federal student loans would increase the deficit. But what they’re split on is how significant that addition would be, and how the government could eventually recoup the costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Its interesting that person that takes out a student loan and doesn't have the intelligence to figure out how to pay it back gets a government hand out. A person with cancer, heart disease or other major illness gets no help. What's wrong with that picture. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 26 minutes ago, Doug said: Its interesting that person that takes out a student loan and doesn't have the intelligence to figure out how to pay it back gets a government hand out. A person with cancer, heart disease or other major illness gets no help. What's wrong with that picture. I hear you but the PPP loan fuckery was far worse than that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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