ArcticCrusher Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Steve753 said: Batteries last 10 plus yrs. My brother will be on his 3rd new Ev by then. So how are they "worth it"? I don't just own one car, I own 5. I buy them new and keep them for 10 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted July 4, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 4, 2022 21 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: So how are they "worth it"? I don't just own one car, I own 5. I buy them new and keep them for 10 years. How is it worth owning 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 18 minutes ago, Steve753 said: How is it worth owning 5? Very few mechanical issues but they depreciate and cost $$$. How would I be further ahead if they were ev's? One day they will be OK, but that isn't now unless you like fads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Steve753 said: 320 mile range for the lightning. Divide it by 2 towing anything more than 4k. Unless you acctaly drive highway speed . Watch the video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 6 hours ago, spin_dry said: The track record for lithium batteries and their longevity is well documented. 3000 battery cycles before it drops below 100%. At 4500 cycles the capacity drops to 80%. That's for LFP. So they should last a pretty long time. What's it cost to replace on average? They putting good warranties on them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted July 5, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said: Very few mechanical issues but they depreciate and cost $$$. How would I be further ahead if they were ev's? One day they will be OK, but that isn't now unless you like fads. You described mostly any new vehicle. You have far to drive to work? You said you have 5 vehicles. Obviously cost isn't an issue, but savings on fuel you'd be ahead. Edited July 5, 2022 by Steve753 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 13 hours ago, ACE said: Unless we go much more than 100 miles How many 100 mile trips before the 6.2 goes boom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X2700 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 26 minutes ago, awful knawful said: How many 100 mile trips before the 6.2 goes boom? At least 3000? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share Posted July 5, 2022 2 hours ago, awful knawful said: How many 100 mile trips before the 6.2 goes boom? 620 and accounting so far 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 11 hours ago, Steve753 said: You described mostly any new vehicle. You have far to drive to work? You said you have 5 vehicles. Obviously cost isn't an issue, but savings on fuel you'd be ahead. Oh, I can make one EV work just driving around home, but why would I want half a vehicle? There is no savings. I find it rather amusing the ones pushing EV's when they don't own any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 There is also a false sense that EV's are more reliable than ICE vehicles. They are not. https://insideevs.com/news/549130/consumerreports-tesla-reliability-poor-2021/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted July 5, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: There is also a false sense that EV's are more reliable than ICE vehicles. They are not. https://insideevs.com/news/549130/consumerreports-tesla-reliability-poor-2021/ Not seeing any pollution control issues there, which happens quite often on ICE vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, Steve753 said: Not seeing any pollution control issues there, which happens quite often on ICE vehicles. So you are one of those who believes the EV is 100% green? There lies the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted July 5, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: So you are one of those who believes the EV is 100% green? There lies the problem. No. I said there's no pollution control issues with an EV like there is with an ICE. Your comprehension is the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 21 minutes ago, Steve753 said: No. I said there's no pollution control issues with an EV like there is with an ICE. Your comprehension is the problem. Zero issues with pollution control with any of my current or past cars. My 2010 F150 exhaust is still original. Why would I buy a piece of shit that is ranked 28 out of 29 in reliability? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted July 5, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Zero issues with pollution control with any of my current or past cars. My 2010 F150 exhaust is still original. Why would I buy a piece of shit that is ranked 28 out of 29 in reliability? You're not everyone though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted July 5, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Zero issues with pollution control with any of my current or past cars. My 2010 F150 exhaust is still original. Why would I buy a piece of shit that is ranked 28 out of 29 in reliability? Shit my 20 year old Escalade still has its original exhaust. 200k and towing sleds in New England salt/brine. I did just recently have to replace fuel vapor canister but other than that no emission issues ever with that truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted July 5, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 5, 2022 Just now, EvilBird said: Shit my 20 year old Escalade still has its original exhaust. 200k and towing sleds in New England salt/brine. I did just recently have to replace fuel vapor canister but other than that no emission issues ever with that truck. What does exhaust have have to do with pollution control issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted July 5, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Steve753 said: What does exhaust have have to do with pollution control issues? are you serious ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted July 5, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 minute ago, EvilBird said: are you serious ? Answer the question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted July 5, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 5, 2022 Just now, Steve753 said: Answer the question https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalytic_converter Ask the EPA I guess why we need Cats then..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Steve753 said: Answer the question Well, you will have cats and 02 sensors.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 minute ago, EvilBird said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalytic_converter Ask the EPA I guess why we need Cats then..... When you said exhaust I think he thought you mean the stacks where to coal is burned to produce electricity to charge the cars... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted July 5, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, EvilBird said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalytic_converter Ask the EPA I guess why we need Cats then..... 2 minutes ago, Snake said: Well, you will have cats and 02 sensors.... You're both missing the point. It's the sensors that bring up a CEL. There's no such sensors on a EV for pollution control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted July 5, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Snake said: When you said exhaust I think he thought you mean the stacks where to coal is burned to produce electricity to charge the cars... Coal is the only way electricity is produced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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