ArcticCrusher Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, ford_428cj said: Exactly. Quiet drag races don't sound much fun... We would be good with one EV in our household. They cost way too much ... & nobody can answer how long the batteries last it seems. That's been the problem since day one and the time it takes to charge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Ford will sell a ton of Lightenings and sludgy will still be here posting videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said: That's been the problem since day one and the time it takes to charge. Electric Car Regrets: What to Know Before Buying https://blog.cheapism.com/what-to-know-before-buying-an-electric-car/#close https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/most-read-2021-why-i-regret-buying-an-electric-car https://rechargd.com/regret-buying-ev/ Benefits Aside, The Hidden Costs Of Owning An EV Might Scare You BYNIKIA HUNT PUBLISHED APR 17, 2022 While the benefits are well-known, very little focus is given to the downside and hidden costs of owning an electric vehicle. https://www.hotcars.com/benefits-aside-the-hidden-costs-of-owning-an-ev-might-scare-you/ https://www.21oak.com/inspiration/ev-car-charging-costs/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 3 hours ago, ford_428cj said: Exactly. Quiet drag races don't sound much fun... We would be good with one EV in our household. They cost way too much ... & nobody can answer how long the batteries last it seems. Few years at most. And by then it’ll likely be obsolete tech. Vehicle will be worthless 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 Graphene aluminum batteries may help them a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member 800renegaderider Posted July 4, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 4, 2022 15 hours ago, Ez ryder said: If they were not jacking prices 20k + for the xl work truck I would buy a base line for a work truck this week . But every dealer is jacking the shit way up. I taked to a chev dealer few weeks back . They can't guerntee a price on thete new one for next yr . Not even a 10g window . So you pretty much give them 100 bucks for zero delivery time window or a price you will pay . Merca I haven’t seen any new vehicle without a premium over sticker in a while. They keep claiming low inventory but fuck there must have been 10k brand new cars in the wrapper sitting on the Baltimore docks when we drove by the other day on 95. Thousands of cars just sitting there I wish I snapped a pic of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, ford_428cj said: Exactly. Quiet drag races don't sound much fun... We would be good with one EV in our household. They cost way too much ... & nobody can answer how long the batteries last it seems. The track record for lithium batteries and their longevity is well documented. 3000 battery cycles before it drops below 100%. At 4500 cycles the capacity drops to 80%. That's for LFP. Edited July 4, 2022 by spin_dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 If you don't drain below 10% and charge over 90% it will extend the life cycle.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 5 hours ago, spin_dry said: Ford will sell a ton of Lightenings and sludgy will still be here posting videos. He’s just pissed because he knows that lightening will put a hurting on his 6.2 chebby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Edmo said: He’s just pissed because he knows that lightening will put a hurting on his 6.2 chebby. Unless we go much more than 100 miles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted July 4, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 hour ago, ACE said: Unless we go much more than 100 miles 320 mile range for the lightning. Divide it by 2 towing anything more than 4k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Steve753 said: 320 mile range for the lightning. Divide it by 2 towing anything more than 4k. Yeah too bad it can’t get anywhere near that in real life hey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted July 4, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, ACE said: Yeah too bad it can’t get anywhere near that in real life hey Range will only improve if they want more to buy into the whole electric thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airflite1 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Steve753 said: 320 mile range for the lightning. Divide it by 2 towing anything more than 4k. And divide by 2 again for winter driving. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Steve753 said: Range will only improve if they want more to buy into the whole electric thing. If they can improve battery energy density by a lot I think they’ll be great 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, ACE said: If they can improve battery energy density by a lot I think they’ll be great Ev's have made good progress in 150 years to the point they are almost useful. Another 150 years might change that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: Ev's have made good progress in 150 years to the point they are almost useful. Another 150 years might change that. There wasn’t market pressure to advance it much until recently though and it’s really hard to beat oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted July 4, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Ev's have made good progress in 150 years to the point they are almost useful. Another 150 years might change that. In the city it's the only wtg. Having a gasser to drive around town to and from work or getting groceries doesn'take sense anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Steve753 said: In the city it's the only wtg. Having a gasser to drive around town to and from work or getting groceries doesn'take sense anymore. Do you own one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted July 4, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 4, 2022 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: Do you own one? No. My brother does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Do you own one? Most EV zealots don’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted July 4, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ACE said: Most EV zealots don’t I'm far from being an EV zealot. But you can't deny EVs have their place and it's only going to grow. Edited July 4, 2022 by Steve753 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Steve753 said: I'm far from being an EV zealot. But you can't deny EVs have their place and it's only going to grow. But overall they currently suck. But improving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Steve753 said: I'm far from being an EV zealot. But you can't deny EVs have their place and it's only going to grow. Right now you will need to purchase a new battery before they become "worth it" so no they aren't. But feel free to buy one or two. They will get there, or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted July 4, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Right now you will need to purchase a new battery before they become "worth it" so no they aren't. But feel free to buy one or two. They will get there, or not. Batteries last 10 plus yrs. My brother will be on his 3rd new Ev by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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