Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 4, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Doug said: Deflection as you do is not a answer. How does the government pay back those loans? By goods and services that they don't produce or tax payer dollars. They haven’t started to pay back the debt from government spending and taxation cuts. Obviously you are against Republican generated tax policies we currently live under. You fear of answer simple question is very telling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 4, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, SkisNH said: Ultimately, yes....everyone should pay somewhere around 12-15% no deductions. Special carve outs = special Interest groups. I will admit I benefited from trumps llc pass through credit. I pay more than most people make. I agree on flat tax with no deductions. That goes for individuals as well as businesses IMO. But since over 1/2 the country don’t pay I think the top 47% that do pay in income tax should get every possible credits and deductions that are written into the current tax code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, BOHICA said: They haven’t started to pay back the debt from government spending and taxation cuts. Obviously you are against Republican generated tax policies we currently live under. You fear of answer simple question is very telling. You still haven't explain how these loans are paid back that are taken out to cover the EV tax breaks. Nobody pays more in taxes as you claim but these loans are paid back by tax payer money. The only income the government has is taxes. But by all means carry on. You at least have yourself convinced. And remember Trump is no longer president as you continue to bring him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 4, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Doug said: You still haven't explain how these loans are paid back that are taken out to cover the EV tax breaks. Nobody pays more in taxes as you claim but these loans are paid back by tax payer money. The only income the government has is taxes. But by all means carry on. You at least have yourself convinced. And remember Trump is no longer president as you continue to bring him up. So you are against trump’s tax plan, all deductions and credits as those take away revenue to pay back the federal debt? FYI. Fed loans we pay interest only as the debt goes up every year and went up huge under Trump and his tax plan. But the gov takes in more then enough to make the interest payments. That is my answer… Now do you have an answer to my question or are you scared? Edited July 4, 2022 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, BOHICA said: So you are against trump’s tax plan, all deductions and credits as those take away revenue to pay back the federal debt? FYI. Fed loans we pay interest only as the debt goes up every year and went up huge under Trump and his tax plan. But the gov takes in more then enough to make the interest payments. That is my answer… Now do you have an answer to my question or are you scared? This was about EV but as normal you deflected it to trumps tax plan among other things. Kind of weird but that's you. So the Government takes in more than enough to cover interest payments. Hmm. How about less taxes and less supplements and credits for programs the the governments is pushing onto the tax payer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 4, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Doug said: This was about EV but as normal you deflected it to trumps tax plan among other things. Kind of weird but that's you. So the Government takes in more than enough to cover interest payments. Hmm. How about less taxes and less supplements and credits for programs the the governments is pushing onto the tax payer. Cause EV’s were in the Trump tax code as was Residential Solar. jesus it must be difficult for you retards to navigate life if you can’t answer simple questions. Are you against Trump’s tax plan, deductions, credits as that is the tax code we live under currently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Cause EV’s were in the Trump tax code as was Residential Solar. jesus it must be difficult for you retards to navigate life if you can’t answer simple questions. Are you against Trump’s tax plan, deductions, credits as that is the tax code we live under currently? You are entertaining I'll give you that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 hours ago, BOHICA said: So you are against trump’s tax plan, all deductions and credits as those take away revenue to pay back the federal debt? FYI. Fed loans we pay interest only as the debt goes up every year and went up huge under Trump and his tax plan. But the gov takes in more then enough to make the interest payments. That is my answer… Now do you have an answer to my question or are you scared? I'm so confused...do you support Trumps tax rates or not. Allowing people to keep more of their own money is different than letting some people get special carve outs for EV's and solar panels. Why not a tax credit for 850 turbos? As long as it's not refundable 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 4, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 hour ago, SkisNH said: I'm so confused...do you support Trumps tax rates or not. Allowing people to keep more of their own money is different than letting some people get special carve outs for EV's and solar panels. Why not a tax credit for 850 turbos? As long as it's not refundable 🤣 I’m for net income tax payers getting to keep as much of their own money that they are allowed by law. If 850 turbos had tax credits I would like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 On 7/4/2022 at 4:23 AM, SkisNH said: Clearly refundable, yet both lower your tax liability. Still missing the point though...why should tax payers help offset the cost of your solar panels or EV? Did he ever answer this question? Tax credits for wealthy is all this ends up being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 21 minutes ago, racer254 said: Did he ever answer this question? Tax credits for wealthy is all this ends up being. I don't care rich or poor.... 2 neighbors both with the same income....one pays significantly less in taxes because he can drive an EV yet the neighbor needs a truck for work. Why should the govt favor the other guy. Picking winners and losers like I said. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 5, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 5, 2022 55 minutes ago, racer254 said: Did he ever answer this question? Tax credits for wealthy is all this ends up being. Nobody pays more in taxes cause of somebody getting a non refundable credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 5, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 5, 2022 33 minutes ago, SkisNH said: I don't care rich or poor.... 2 neighbors both with the same income....one pays significantly less in taxes because he can drive an EV yet the neighbor needs a truck for work. Why should the govt favor the other guy. Picking winners and losers like I said. Hopefully the neighbor with the truck writes off the mileage or actual cost as a business expense lowering his tax burden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 34 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Hopefully the neighbor with the truck writes off the mileage or actual cost as a business expense lowering his tax burden Why should anyone have to figure out ways to get around paying taxes if said taxes were fair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 5, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, racer254 said: Why should anyone have to figure out ways to get around paying taxes if said taxes were fair? Because that is the way our tax code was written by the Trump admin. only a complete retard would pay more then they have too and not use deductions and credits to your advantage. so you think now a business owner shouldnt be able to write off vehicle expenses for business use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 hour ago, SkisNH said: I don't care rich or poor.... 2 neighbors both with the same income....one pays significantly less in taxes because he can drive an EV yet the neighbor needs a truck for work. Why should the govt favor the other guy. Picking winners and losers like I said. Just get rid of the supplements and tax rebates on government influenced projects and lower taxes for all. Goverment tax credits and supplements should not be influencing purchases of public traded or private company's products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 hour ago, BOHICA said: Hopefully the neighbor with the truck writes off the mileage or actual cost as a business expense lowering his tax burden If he isn't the owner....the federal deduction for mileage doesn't even come close to the 7500.00 ev credit. (But you already knew that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 33 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Because that is the way our tax code was written by the Trump admin. only a complete retard would pay more then they have too and not use deductions and credits to your advantage. so you think now a business owner shouldnt be able to write off vehicle expenses for business use? Trump didn't write the tax code you partisan hack...he did propose changes to the tax rates and an LLC pass through deduction that was voted on by congress...the tax code for business vehicle deductions has been on the books. I think what people want is a simplified and fair tax code...everyone has skin in the game and no carve outs for special interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 5, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SkisNH said: If he isn't the owner....the federal deduction for mileage doesn't even come close to the 7500.00 ev credit. (But you already knew that) So neighbor needs a truck for work but isn’t the owner of the business that the work the truck is used for? Edited July 5, 2022 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Just now, BOHICA said: So neighbor needs a truck for work but isn’t the owner of the business the truck is used for? Carpenter working for a GC....simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 5, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 5, 2022 Just now, SkisNH said: Carpenter working for a GC....simple Carpenter is a sub contractor then with out a business. Retards like that need to pay more in taxes for being retarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Carpenter is a sub contractor then with out a business. Retards like that need to pay more in taxes for being retarded. Why isn't he an employee? Because you say so... I employed 11 people, how about you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 5, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, SkisNH said: Why isn't he an employee? Because you say so... I employed 11 people, how about you? Is their income reported on a 1099 or a W2? Edited July 5, 2022 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Is their income reported on a 1099 or a W2? Employee....did I studder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 5, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, SkisNH said: Employee....did I studder? So employee is required to purchase, maintain and fuel their own work vehicle as a W2 employee. They get a vehicle allowance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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