Gold Member EvilBird Posted June 25, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted June 25, 2022 Just now, Ez ryder said: His fucking double can't even ride a fucking bike Hey Man ...He's got hairy legs !!! chicken legs !!! cut the Guys some slack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, BOHICA said: And EV tax credits are for individuals. I'm glad you finally got that. Tax credit for a EV buyer not the general public. Hmm nobody's buying EV's let's give them a tax break so it LOOKS more economical to purchase one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted June 25, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted June 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: So no one building EV got bailout money ? Interesting You don't really convince your self of this shit do you ? Pilles of that case was mandated to go to ev expansion. Tesla never got bailout money. Re read my post retard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted June 25, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Doug said: I'm glad you finally got that. Tax credit for a EV buyer not the general public. Hmm nobody's buying EV's let's give them a tax break so it LOOKS more economical to purchase one. Child tax credits and deductions are for only those only that have kids. Other tax credits are geared towards individuals. Trump individual tax cuts are geared towards individuals Edited June 25, 2022 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw-50c Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, EvilBird said: Bike Lives Matter. whether his foot got caught in the peddle or not still funny as hell, fuckin dipstick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted June 25, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted June 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: Penalizing ? Where in the fuck do you get that ? How do you think the roads get maintained ? Who do you think they get built ? Oh yes you bought a coal powered car so you should not have to pay to use them ? FUCK OFF ! Oh I forgot only millionaires and billionaires don't pay there fair share. Most of my power for my car comes from Solar, Hydro and wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted June 25, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted June 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, sw-50c said: whether his foot got caught in the peddle or not still funny as hell, fuckin dipstick. Get Him a motorized scooter FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw-50c Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, EvilBird said: Get Him a motorized scooter FFS get the shit bag one of those little rascal wheelchairs as seen on t.v. , tard would probley tip over in that to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 19 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Tesla never got bailout money. Re read my post retard. Your the only one talking about bailout money. My point is that the government should not be into the EV supplementing purchase program for EV. They have done that to every EV manufacturer. If your happy a EV is getting a $7500 rebate on their federal taxes and your not. Well good for you. GM's new EV truck is 110K to start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted June 25, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Doug said: Your the only one talking about bailout money. My point is that the government should not be into the EV supplementing purchase program for EV. They have done that to every EV manufacturer. If your happy a EV is getting a $7500 rebate on their federal taxes and your not. Well good for you. GM's new EV truck is 110K to start I’m a Republican so I am good with individuals getting to keep as much of their money as they can. Democrats like people to pay more taxes Edited June 25, 2022 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, BOHICA said: Most of my power for my car comes from Solar, Hydro and wind. What zip code are you in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, BOHICA said: Tesla never got bailout money. Re read my post retard. Ok so what am I reading are you telling me the bailouts did not include stipulations to invest in ev tec ? Are you attempting to tell me the tax credits did not directly affect the ev auto manufacturs and give them the ability to jack up the cost appropriately? Oh no not at all. And just a reminder tesla got plenty of crumbs from the fed govenments money we borrowed from. China around 2.4 billion worth . But I guess those don't count in one's attempt to live the smarmy life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted June 25, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 25, 2022 4 hours ago, spin_dry said: sure Well the plans were approved by one administration but then squished by the Biden administration, if they were never going to do it why tell them no?? Get better bait while you're at it home slice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted June 25, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Ez ryder said: What zip code are you in. 83616. My own generation takes my day time needs for most part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted June 26, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted June 26, 2022 18 hours ago, Ez ryder said: Ok so what am I reading are you telling me the bailouts did not include stipulations to invest in ev tec ? Are you attempting to tell me the tax credits did not directly affect the ev auto manufacturs and give them the ability to jack up the cost appropriately? Oh no not at all. And just a reminder tesla got plenty of crumbs from the fed govenments money we borrowed from. China around 2.4 billion worth . But I guess those don't count in one's attempt to live the smarmy life Gm and Chrysler bailouts did not involve stipulations for EV tech. The DOE loan that Tesla (paid back after a year or 2) , Ford and such took didn’t stipulate EV production. Ecoboost, aluminum construction and factory upgrades is what Ford used the money on. https://www.energy.gov/lpo/products-services/advanced-technology-vehicles-manufacturing-loan-program Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 23 hours ago, BOHICA said: Penalizing efficiency? pay tax on mpg or mpge or per mile and weight IMO Why not? Taxes are a penalty for being successful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted June 26, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Sleepr2 said: Why not? Taxes are a penalty for being successful Ya taxation of success is not a Republican trait. That is a Democrat trait. That is why democrats get upset at EV tax credits cause they are geared more towards successful individuals rather then they least successful. Edited June 26, 2022 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 6 hours ago, BOHICA said: Gm and Chrysler bailouts did not involve stipulations for EV tech. The DOE loan that Tesla (paid back after a year or 2) , Ford and such took didn’t stipulate EV production. Ecoboost, aluminum construction and factory upgrades is what Ford used the money on. https://www.energy.gov/lpo/products-services/advanced-technology-vehicles-manufacturing-loan-program Yes they did . The volt is a prime example a fail but was 100% part of the deal . And dodge was forced to sell to fiat so they were mo longer obligated to a idea by any of the stipulations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 Trying to sell us on EVs is selling us on a lifestyle, no doubt about ti. EV attitude is the new 'I'm a vegan' from a couple years ago... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted June 26, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, Snake said: Trying to sell us on EVs is selling us on a lifestyle, no doubt about ti. EV attitude is the new 'I'm a vegan' from a couple years ago... Right now with EVs you are paying more for less. Way to many negatives to even consider one yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted June 26, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted June 26, 2022 33 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: Yes they did . The volt is a prime example a fail but was 100% part of the deal . And dodge was forced to sell to fiat so they were mo longer obligated to a idea by any of the stipulations GM bailout/bankruptcy avoidance tab did not spawn the volt. Gov paid for GM stock and sold it for a loss. volt is a product of tax credits that consumers got on there income taxes in the form of non refundable credit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, BOHICA said: GM bailout/bankruptcy avoidance tab did not spawn the volt. Gov paid for GM stock and sold it for a loss. volt is a product of tax credits that consumers got on there income taxes in the form of non refundable credit Look a bit harder Go read all of section 6 It has some of the advanced technology vehicles energy independence shit in it . Edited June 27, 2022 by Ez ryder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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irv Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Enviromentalist Michael Shellenberger, author of "Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All" on how Nuclear is the real building back better, how renewables pollute the land and how ESG is a scam, with David Staples Edmunton Journal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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