Mag6240 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Just now, awful knawful said: a new VW Golf is made by generating 6.8 tonnes of CO2e. Even worse, a Polestar 2 (a Swedish electric car) generates 26 tonnes of CO2 during the manufacturing process. Shhhh, we aren't supposed to know this!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, Mag6240 said: Shhhh, we aren't supposed to know this!! I read somewhere you'd have to drive a new Corolla 7 years to equal the emissions of an electric car being manufactured. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Big Crappie said: No, some manufacturer's have already said they are done innovating new engines. BMW is working on a new series of motors that produce virtually no CO2. 4,6, and 8 cylinders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member 800renegaderider Posted June 23, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Angry ginger said: LS is always the right answer to old cars. For gm products yes 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doorider Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 57 minutes ago, spin_dry said: BMW is working on a new series of motors that produce virtually no CO2. 4,6, and 8 cylinders. The latest M2 is said to be their last fully ICE car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, Doorider said: The latest M2 is said to be their last fully ICE car https://www.carscoops.com/2022/01/bmw-is-developing-a-new-generation-of-internal-combustion-engines/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted June 23, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 minute ago, spin_dry said: https://www.carscoops.com/2022/01/bmw-is-developing-a-new-generation-of-internal-combustion-engines/ Did you fork the cash out yet for a EV Van? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Just now, EvilBird said: Did you fork the cash out yet for a EV Van? I doubt that I'll ever own an EV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted June 23, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted June 23, 2022 Just now, spin_dry said: I doubt that I'll ever own an EV. have some faith . its not over yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 minute ago, EvilBird said: have some faith . its not over yet. Only one regret. Having made the mistake of reading your drivel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doorider Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 2 hours ago, spin_dry said: https://www.carscoops.com/2022/01/bmw-is-developing-a-new-generation-of-internal-combustion-engines/ Sorry, last ICE only M series car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 18 minutes ago, Doorider said: Sorry, last ICE only M series car Nope. BMW plans to build vehicles with their new ICE to at least 2030. Updated cylinder heads and heated catalyst. They will be delivered in hybrid form. That's understandable because a pure ICE vehicle doesn't have a chance against the new hybrids. All the supercars from McLaren, Ferrari, etc are hybrids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Nope. BMW plans to build vehicles with their new ICE to at least 2030. Updated cylinder heads and heated catalyst. They will be delivered in hybrid form. That's understandable because a pure ICE vehicle doesn't have a chance against the new hybrids. All the supercars from McLaren, Ferrari, etc are hybrids. I kinda just want another v10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airflite1 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 11 hours ago, racer254 said: With the government pushing EV, do you think car companies are putting the same about of $$$ into the innovation of gasoline engines vs electric? I visited with a Porsche engineer a couple years ago, he said they've stopped all development on consumer internal combustion engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 12 hours ago, racer254 said: Does everyone remember what the liberal greenies from the 70's did to the performance of vehicles in the 80's. Do you think we are going back to that type of stagnate vehicle performance again? That whole era of restrictions caused the performance and efficiency of the gasoline engine to stagnate for 20 plus years. Took engineers and car companies many years to get back to making awesome, efficient performance engines like we have today. Does any one see history repeating itself with the war on fossil fuels now? My cousin had a brand new Firebird 400 in 68, and as a 11 year old kid it was an amazing car. I was finally able to afford a new 79 Trans Am 6.6, which I guess at the time was an impressive car. Honestly though, it was a slow, rattling, squeaking piece of shit. I have no nostalgia for most of the older stuff, only because the newer stuff is so ch better. Had an 05 GTO which was a weird Australian deal but awesome car. My 750 BMW would smoke most any muscle car made, and do so in comfort for 4 passengers. 8 hours ago, f7ben said: A production Tesla already absolutely the fastest car ever made. Imagine what it will be like when electric is fully adopted and exploited. The level of performance attainable will blow ice engines so far out of t water it will be like horse and buggy vs f-16 fighter No argument here. I want to want an EV, just not there yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 22 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: My cousin had a brand new Firebird 400 in 68, and as a 11 year old kid it was an amazing car. I was finally able to afford a new 79 Trans Am 6.6, which I guess at the time was an impressive car. Honestly though, it was a slow, rattling, squeaking piece of shit. I have no nostalgia for most of the older stuff, only because the newer stuff is so ch better. Had an 05 GTO which was a weird Australian deal but awesome car. My 750 BMW would smoke most any muscle car made, and do so in comfort for 4 passengers. No argument here. I want to want an EV, just not there yet. I’m not either but I respect the performance....totally bad ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICG Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 The early 80's had some exciting cars if you looked.... We had a new 1983 BMW 320i, when I was starting out..... that little car was faster than a Corvette on the highway. European manufacturers built hi quality and fast cars.... pricey, but you get what you pay for. Times haven't changed.... Audi's etron GT RS is wild... Battery technology and manufacturing is the weak link. Perfect that and you have a winner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 14 hours ago, racer254 said: With the government pushing EV, do you think car companies are putting the same about of $$$ into the innovation of gasoline engines vs electric? Yes I do . The engineers fully understand that the American grid is decades away from having the ability to charge all replaced gas cars . Most neighborhoods in America can't Handel a charger in every garage hell most older blocks can't Handel 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Crappie Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 7 hours ago, spin_dry said: BMW is working on a new series of motors that produce virtually no CO2. 4,6, and 8 cylinders. Interesting. Doesn't sound possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doorider Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 12 hours ago, spin_dry said: Nope. BMW plans to build vehicles with their new ICE to at least 2030. Updated cylinder heads and heated catalyst. They will be delivered in hybrid form. That's understandable because a pure ICE vehicle doesn't have a chance against the new hybrids. All the supercars from McLaren, Ferrari, etc are hybrids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted June 24, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted June 24, 2022 16 hours ago, awful knawful said: I read somewhere you'd have to drive a new Corolla 7 years to equal the emissions of an electric car being manufactured. Not really. Why are you comparing a polestar to a Corolla. Corolla needs to be compared to a bolt if you want to be honest https://www.thedrive.com/news/electric-pickup-trucks-are-dirtier-than-you-think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 18 hours ago, 800renegaderider said: For gm products yes 👍 even for some fords where the coyote doesnt fit well unless its a true classic. average 60's mustang its better than any 302 based motor. Fox body i'd prefer a coyote in it although would not object to an LS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 12 hours ago, ICG said: The early 80's had some exciting cars if you looked.... We had a new 1983 BMW 320i, when I was starting out..... that little car was faster than a Corvette on the highway. European manufacturers built hi quality and fast cars.... pricey, but you get what you pay for. Times haven't changed.... Audi's etron GT RS is wild... Battery technology and manufacturing is the weak link. Perfect that and you have a winner European and japanese cars were far better than domestic in the 80's. At 16 I worked as a porter at a dealership and drove all of the new and coolest stuff, vettes, trans ams, gran nationals, mustangs, etc... At the time I thought they were awesome but looking back those things were major pieces of shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s pump Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 16 hours ago, f7ben said: I kinda just want another v10 Try a W12 you want a bad ass motor.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 52 minutes ago, s pump said: Try a W12 you want a bad ass motor.... I’m poor ....I can look at the pics though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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