f7ben Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 31 minutes ago, Pete said: I’m now seriously considering coal. Most efficient heat available. It’s a real mess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, f7ben said: It’s a real mess We had it growing up. It wasn’t horrible. The heat is incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pete said: We had it growing up. It wasn’t horrible. The heat is incredible. Yes it’s good heat , I’ve just worked with so much coal I get tired of the mess. Although pulverized coal is messier than lump or briquette. It’s just a pain to clean up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 On 6/16/2022 at 3:26 PM, Pete said: This year I’d have to buy a few cord I'm having a hard time giving wood away, all hard Maple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 6 hours ago, Pete said: I’m now seriously considering coal. Most efficient heat available. 6 hours ago, f7ben said: It’s a real mess I heated with coal for years in NH. Most of the time it was with a traditional coal stove with a mixture of nut and stove coal. It can get messy and dusty when shaking it down and emptying the ashes. The last 4 or 5 years I had an automatic stoker stove that burned rice coal. Just fill the hopper and set the thermostat to your desired temp and the feeder pushes the coal to the burn chamber. Still a bit dusty, but so is wood. Unlike a pellet stove, it only required seasonal cleaning. For powering it during power outages I bought an old standby UPS power backup for computers and bypassed the small used up batteries and used 2 deep cycle batteries. When the power went out the UPS kicked on and kept the stove going. What does a ton of coal go for now? It was up to about $250/ton the last time I used it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 23 minutes ago, ckf said: I heated with coal for years in NH. Most of the time it was with a traditional coal stove with a mixture of nut and stove coal. It can get messy and dusty when shaking it down and emptying the ashes. The last 4 or 5 years I had an automatic stoker stove that burned rice coal. Just fill the hopper and set the thermostat to your desired temp and the feeder pushes the coal to the burn chamber. Still a bit dusty, but so is wood. Unlike a pellet stove, it only required seasonal cleaning. For powering it during power outages I bought an old standby UPS power backup for computers and bypassed the small used up batteries and used 2 deep cycle batteries. When the power went out the UPS kicked on and kept the stove going. What does a ton of coal go for now? It was up to about $250/ton the last time I used it. $170/ ton this time last year, $450 ish bulk is what I heard yesterday, and we're only 25 minute ride to the mine. Damn capitalists anyways.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 14 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Good god…no kidding. This place is full of bitchy little mean girls all congregating at the same lunch table.🤣 keep your bra on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Shoveling coal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 3 hours ago, XCR1250 said: I'm having a hard time giving wood away, all hard Maple. People that burn wood are dying off. It’s been on a steady decline for the last 7-8 years. I stopped selling it in 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, spin_dry said: People that burn wood are dying off. It’s been on a steady decline for the last 7-8 years. I stopped selling it in 2012. Not here , wood has been in the steady increase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 15 minutes ago, f7ben said: Not here , wood has been in the steady increase It remains strong in many western states as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 1 minute ago, spin_dry said: It remains strong in many western states as well. Cut split oak seasoned one year is going for $225-$250 per cord delivered. Last year that was a break even with fuel oil or propane. I’d assume wood will offer a savings this year and prices will continue to increase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 1 minute ago, f7ben said: Cut split oak seasoned one year is going for $225-$250 per cord delivered. Last year that was a break even with fuel oil or propane. I’d assume wood will offer a savings this year and prices will continue to increase In “12 when I stopped cutting it had fallen to $100. I was basically giving it away. It recovered but not enough to get me back into it before selling off my land and tractor. Cost of firewood bundles vary hugely around the western US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, spin_dry said: In “12 when I stopped cutting it had fallen to $100. I was basically giving it away. It recovered but not enough to get me back into it before selling off my land and tractor. Cost of firewood bundles vary hugely around the western US. As does the cost of NG and Electricity. Indiana was 30-40% cheaper for fossil fuels than MN. Insane cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Crappie Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 I'm lucky to have 40 acres of hardwood and sons that will cut it. We have electric heat back up but the woodstove is our main heat source. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 7 hours ago, spin_dry said: In “12 when I stopped cutting it had fallen to $100. I was basically giving it away. It recovered but not enough to get me back into it before selling off my land and tractor. Cost of firewood bundles vary hugely around the western US. We were buying 12 loggers cords for $750-$800 4 years ago. Here the National Forest sells permits for $25 to cut dead, dying, down wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted June 18, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 18, 2022 $400 a cord round here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: $400 a cord round here Holy shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstorm Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 fire wood pricing this is how it breaks down. if a load 10 cd is sold to a cutnsplit dealer. he will pay around $130 a cd. out of that 130 comes stumpage to the land owner the logger gets some and then the trucking. no one is getting rich. but now the dealer will cut n split it and deliver to the home owner. green always was$250 and air dry 275 i would expect that is a bit low now. the cutnsplit guy makes 120 to 200 or more per cd and always complains wines cry's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 8 hours ago, spin_dry said: Shoveling coal. Living in a clapped out minivan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, snowstorm said: fire wood pricing this is how it breaks down. if a load 10 cd is sold to a cutnsplit dealer. he will pay around $130 a cd. out of that 130 comes stumpage to the land owner the logger gets some and then the trucking. no one is getting rich. but now the dealer will cut n split it and deliver to the home owner. green always was$250 and air dry 275 i would expect that is a bit low now. the cutnsplit guy makes 120 to 200 or more per cd and always complains wines cry's My buddy burns 20 cords a year in his boiler. He pays $1000 for a 12cord load of tamarack although I’m sure it’s higher now just due to fuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Guys here with wood processors are paying 750-800 right now for log truck loads of nice straight hardwood probably 6- 7 chords worth. Not sure but I think they're at 275-295/chord delivered. Green not seasoned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Just now, hayward said: Guys here with wood processors are paying 750-800 right now for log truck loads of nice straight hardwood probably 6- 7 chords worth. Not sure but I think they're at 275-295/chord delivered. Green not seasoned. Nobody's getting rich, but there is mostly cash involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 On 6/16/2022 at 3:05 PM, Pete said: Winter will be here soon and with Biden’s oil prices I don’t can’t or want to buy oil. Pellet stove or wood stove. I’ve had pellet before but man they are expensive. Initial cost thing. Wood stove doesn’t seem much cheaper. what to do.. Shut up the shack turn the h20 off at the street and move in with the spin in his van in some random guys driveway in AZ for the winter . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 20 hours ago, spin_dry said: Shoveling coal. Honestly if you can get it it burns extremely hot and lasts a long time . I had a bud who was a semi pro blacksmith . I would buy big bags from him to toss in my cabin wood stove . We talked about finding some for our super small trail shelter stove . Just not super abundant in MN unless you k own a guy who works in the becker plant or somthing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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