f7ben Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, racer254 said: Trump wanted out of all these elitist world organizations. But the retards just can't even handle mean tweets let alone comprehend what these elite world orgs are trying to do. Yah....sucking Saudi and Israeli dick is so much better. Fucking retard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, racer254 said: Trump wanted out of all these elitist world organizations. But the retards just can't even handle mean tweets let alone comprehend what these elite world orgs are trying to do. Exactly. And he should have been commended for it. The power structure can't have that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: Yah....sucking Saudi and Israeli dick is so much better. Fucking retard Breathe Ben......breathe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: Yah....sucking Saudi and Israeli dick is so much better. Fucking retard FFS dude get your head on straight. You want to act as though you want out of all this shit, but when we have one person that wanted to do it, you complained about it. Edited June 17, 2022 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 33 minutes ago, racer254 said: FFS dude get your head on straight. You want to act as though you want out of all this shit, but when we have one person that wanted to do it, you complained about it. He didn’t do it....he just prattled on about it and did nothing. Just like everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, f7ben said: He didn’t do it....he just prattled on about it and did nothing. Just like everything. So you elected biden, good job. Seems like the correct thing to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, racer254 said: So you elected biden, good job. Seems like the correct thing to do. Kill yourself you lying retarded piece of fucking shit. You elected Biden when you supported a lying moron like Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 15 hours ago, f7ben said: Not me You have a boat and a phone = wealthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Anler said: You have a boat and a phone = wealthy Globally Ben is in the top 1%. He's richer than he thinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Globally Ben is in the top 1%. He's richer than he thinks. Steel industry is doing better under Biden right now than anytime in history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, f7ben said: Steel industry is doing better under Biden right now than anytime in history 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member ZR800efi Posted June 17, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted June 17, 2022 3 hours ago, racer254 said: Trump wanted out of all these elitist world organizations. But the retards just can't even handle mean tweets let alone comprehend what these elite world orgs are trying to do. Trump told them all to go fuck thereself and was demonized for trying to maintain a respectful but firm relationship with putin, the north korean kim , etc. the leftists will never admit his approach was superior, even though in retrospect it definitely was. anyone who thinks objectively will clearly see that, the never trumpers are just that...he could cure cancer and they would find a way to protest over it ...'give us back our cancer!! my body my choice!!' I think when this time has past and they look back at how all this went down 50-100 years from now, he will be looked opon as the last real president that acted in the best interest of his own people. biden will be seen for the fraud / failure he is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 minute ago, ZR800efi said: Trump told them all to go fuck thereself and was demonized for trying to maintain a respectful but firm relationship with putin, the north korean kim , etc. the leftists will never admit his approach was superior, even though in retrospect it definitely was. anyone who thinks objectively will clearly see that, the never trumpers are just that...he could cure cancer and they would find a way to protest over it ...'give us back our cancer!! my body my choice!!' I think when this time has past and they look back at how all this went down 50-100 years from now, he will be looked opon as the last real president that acted in the best interest of his own people. biden will be seen for the fraud / failure he is. Ah no , you are buying snake oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member ZR800efi Posted June 17, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted June 17, 2022 Just now, f7ben said: Ah no , you are buying snake oil. i'll bite. elaborate. I think the guy said some very stupid things at times and i get why alot of people personally disliked him, arrogance etc. however, there is alot he did that i agree with. If you look at what he did more so then what he said, he did a relatively good job. biden is just a career piece of garbage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, ZR800efi said: i'll bite. elaborate. I think the guy said some very stupid things at times and i get why alot of people personally disliked him, arrogance etc. however, there is alot he did that i agree with. If you look at what he did more so then what he said, he did a relatively good job. biden is just a career piece of garbage. I’m on the other side....I’ll only look at what he promised to do and what he actually did. He was all talk. He promised to get us out of the Middle East immediately. He failed massively there. In fact all he did was shuffle the deck and reallocate resources to the Saudis who’s dick he sucked constantly. He spoke against military interventionism and then eliminated rules for drone strike reporting and launched more missiles than Obama by 50% or more. He spoke as though he would protect whistleblowers even eluding to pardoning Snowden and Assange and in the end he did neither. Not only that but he repeatedly promised to expose classified intel to the American people and that was a massive lie. He promised to address health care and claimed to have a grand amazing plan. Another lie as he had nothing and did nothing. He promised to balance the budget and in the end he left it far worse than he inherited. He was the worst peacetime spender in history He expanded spending , cut taxes and harassed the fed for stimulus and rate cuts constantly. We are seeing the effects of that type of economic sugar high now with crippling inflation. He promised a border wall and that Mexico would pay for it. Complete bullshit lie. He promised to tackle China ....all he did was start a toothless trade war and then roll over and claim victory over some bullshit trade agreement that China never intended to honor. The entire exercise was damaging and pointless because Trump never intended to really attack China economically. He promised to drain the swamp and then deferred to every swamp creature who would roll over and stroke his ego. From Jeff fucking Sessions to Betsy Davos. I could go on for hours over his actual policy and actions and how disgusting and damaging they really were. I don’t care that he speaks at a 3rd grade level and tweets idiotic shit. I don’t care that he fucked a porn star and lied about it. I care that he was a pathetic leader who made the wrong decision every single time when it concerned a major policy. Edited June 17, 2022 by f7ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member ZR800efi Posted June 17, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted June 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: I’m on the other side....I’ll only look at what he promised to do and what he actually did. He was all talk. He promised to get us out of the Middle East immediately. He failed massively there. In fact all he did was shuffle the deck and reallocate resources to the Saudis who’s dick he sucked constantly. He spoke as though he would protect whistleblowers even eluding to pardoning Snowden and Assange and in the end he did neither. Not only that but he repeatedly promised to expose classified intel to the American people and that was a massive lie. He promised to address health care and claimed to have a grand amazing plan. Another lie as he had nothing and did nothing. He promised to balance the budget and in the end he left it far worse than he inherited. He was the worst peacetime spender in history He expanded spending , cut taxes and harassed the fed for stimulus and rate cuts constantly. We are seeing the effects of that type of economic sugar high now with crippling inflation. He promised a border wall and that Mexico would pay for it. Complete bullshit lie. He promised to tackle China ....all he did was start a toothless trade war and then roll over and claim victory over some bullshit trade agreement that China never intended to honor. The entire exercise was damaging and pointless because Trump never intended to really attack China economically. He promised to drain the swamp and then deferred to every swamp creature who would roll over and stroke his ego. From Jeff fucking Sessions to Betsy Davos. I could go on for hours over his actual policy and actions and how disgusting and damaging they really were. I don’t care that he speaks at a 3rd grade level and tweets idiotic shit. I don’t care that he fucked a porn star and lied about it. I care that he was a pathetic leader who made the wrong decision every single time when it concerned a major policy. whats your thoughts on the keystone pipeline he had greelighted and biden axed immediately once coming into office? I would think thats a major win right about now if it had not been immediately shut down once biden got in. energy is a huge deal right now, and trump was on the right end of that descision, and biden the wrong. . the usa would be in much better shape right now in that regard had trump got back in. north korea agreed to stop nuclear testing under pressure from trumps adnministration. they have recently started testing again. russia invaded crimea in 14', now in the process of taking ukraine.who was in office during russias break in millitary aggression ? raised income of veterans highest minority employment rate I get the feeling you are a little jaded towards the guy, and thats fine, im sure you got your reasons. I personally think the good outweigherd the bad with trump, i cannot say the same with biden. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member poopooforme Posted June 17, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted June 17, 2022 You do realize that 80% of the elected assholes in the senate and the house were 100 percent against Trump correct? Non stop anti trump stuff everywhere. how the fuck you supposed to get anything done with the deck stacked against ya like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, ZR800efi said: whats your thoughts on the keystone pipeline he had greelighted and biden axed immediately once coming into office? I would think thats a major win right about now if it had not been immediately shut down once biden got in. energy is a huge deal right now, and trump was on the right end of that descision, and biden the wrong. . the usa would be in much better shape right now in that regard had trump got back in. north korea agreed to stop nuclear testing under pressure from trumps adnministration. they have recently started testing again. russia invaded crimea in 14', now in the process of taking ukraine.who was in office during russias break in millitary aggression ? raised income of veterans highest minority employment rate I get the feeling you are a little jaded towards the guy, and thats fine, im sure you got your reasons. I personally think the good outweigherd the bad with trump, i cannot say the same with biden. I would support keystone but it’s more of a political football than anything. In the end who the fuck cares if tar sands oil gets from Canada to the gulf. That doesn’t help us. But you’re correct. Biden is a disaster at every step and especially with energy policy. 1 minute ago, poopooforme said: You do realize that 80% of the elected assholes in the senate and the house were 100 percent against Trump correct? Non stop anti trump stuff everywhere. how the fuck you supposed to get anything done with the deck stacked against ya like that? Sure....he didn’t have much support. That definitely impeded him on at least healthcare. That doesn’t excuse him for the decisions he was directly responsible for , many of which I outlined above and many of which I hoped he would proceed on like Trump the candidate promised instead of Trump the potus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member ZR800efi Posted June 17, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, poopooforme said: You do realize that 80% of the elected assholes in the senate and the house were 100 percent against Trump correct? Non stop anti trump stuff everywhere. how the fuck you supposed to get anything done with the deck stacked against ya like that? alternatively, the media have done everything they can to shield biden from negative press but even that machine can't stop the non stop blooper reel thats been bidens run so far. its been so bad it almost feels like parody. trump was demonized by that same machine non stop from day 1 till the day he left. to me, thats where 75 percent of the trump hate comes from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Just now, f7ben said: I would support keystone but it’s more of a political football than anything. In the end who the fuck cares if tar sands oil gets from Canada to the gulf. That doesn’t help us. But you’re correct. Biden is a disaster at every step and especially with energy policy. Sure....he didn’t have much support. That definitely impeded him on at least healthcare. That doesn’t excuse him for the decisions he was directly responsible for , many of which I outlined above and many of which I hoped he would proceed on like Trump the candidate promised instead of Trump the potus. Ben, there was no two party system before Trump. It was all a deep swamp uniparty. All traitors to the American people with the support of the fake news all attacking him. That is changing as the repugs are clearing out the trash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, ZR800efi said: alternatively, the media have done everything they can to shield biden from negative press but even that machine can't stop the non stop blooper reel thats been bidens run so far. its been so bad it almost feels like parody. trump was demonized by that same machine non stop from day 1 till the day he left. to me, thats where 75 percent of the trump hate comes from. Im an actual conservative....you know , small government and fiscal responsibility. Remember when that was a thing? I certainly have a libertarian streak to me as well. Donald Trump the President is the absolute antithesis of everything I stand for. That’s really it in a nutshell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 minute ago, ArcticCrusher said: Ben, there was no two party system before Trump. It was all a deep swamp uniparty. All traitors to the American people with the support of the fake news all attacking him. That is changing as the repugs are clearing out the trash. I don’t see it at all , Trump put no patriots in power. Only more disgusting deep state trash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member ZR800efi Posted June 17, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 minute ago, f7ben said: Im an actual conservative....you know , small government and fiscal responsibility. Remember when that was a thing? I certainly have a libertarian streak to me as well. Donald Trump the President is the absolute antithesis of everything I stand for. That’s really it in a nutshell if i was american, id fall into libertarian for the most part. citizens should be left alone and do what they please as long as it does not harm the next guy. I lean conservative on some, socially liberal on some. leave law abiding citizens have there guns.let gays get married. leave everyone the fuck alone. small gov only there to divey out the tax money into agreed opon services that everyone needs.put violent criminals behind bars. the rest leave up to the citizens. basic healthcare for all is a good thing in practice, but being canadian , i see the arguement for privitized healthcare and personal insurance vs our system. I pay dam near 40 percent income tax with much of it going to healthcare. when i need to see a doctor, i cant get a dedicated family doctor in my area, theres none to be had the last 4 years, so its off to the er. Routinely that trip to the er results in a 8-12 hour wait to see a overworked , underpaid and beat the fuck out doctor that just wants you out there face as quick as possible. the health care in my area sucks.if i had the option to keep my taxes and pay for private insurance , see a doctor who gave a shit , and didnt need to dedicate an entire days wait to see one, eh, i might go the later route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 minute ago, ZR800efi said: if i was american, id fall into libertarian for the most part. citizens should be left alone and do what they please as long as it does not harm the next guy. I lean conservative on some, socially liberal on some. leave law abiding citizens have there guns.let gays get married. leave everyone the fuck alone. small gov only there to divey out the tax money into agreed opon services that everyone needs.put violent criminals behind bars. the rest leave up to the citizens. basic healthcare for all is a good thing in practice, but being canadian , i see the arguement for privitized healthcare and personal insurance vs our system. I pay dam near 40 percent income tax with much of it going to healthcare. when i need to see a doctor, i cant get a dedicated family doctor in my area, theres none to be had the last 4 years, so its off to the er. Routinely that trip to the er results in a 8-12 hour wait to see a overworked , underpaid and beat the fuck out doctor that just wants you out there face as quick as possible. the health care in my area sucks.if i had the option to keep my taxes and pay for private insurance , see a doctor who gave a shit , and didnt need to dedicate an entire days wait to see one, eh, i might go the later route. Well you and I think a lot alike ....on all the points you just posted. I can tell you private healthcare is not that great either. I pay $10 an hour of my wage just for fucking healthcare that I rarely ever use. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, f7ben said: I don’t see it at all , Trump put no patriots in power. Only more disgusting deep state trash. They are rebuilding the party from the ground up. The Mitches, Romneys, Grahams, Cheney are all toast. Or do you like the status quo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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