Not greg b Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 6 hours ago, J. Jackson said: Has there ever been a more dominating brand in snocross? Out of the top classes 12 out of 15 podiums by Doo. Going to have to make up a Tucker type rule pretty soon. Arctic cat back in the day. Cat won every single pro sx race in the 2000-2001 season. When tucker came back to snowcross after his brake from it, he was cat’s sno cross program. After he retired in 2018 they have been non existent in the top snocross classes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Not greg b said: Arctic cat back in the day. Cat won every single pro sx race in the 2000-2001 season. When tucker came back to snowcross after his brake from it, he was cat’s sno cross program. After he retired in 2018 they have been non existent in the top snocross classes. and they could have had a LaValle style team with him... based on some unconfirmed rumors you going today? wonder how muddy the lot is going to be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: and they could have had a LaValle style team with him... based on some unconfirmed rumors you going today? wonder how muddy the lot is going to be... Probably isn’t muddy at all. More than likely a skating rink because it got cold after the 24 hour rain storm. I am finally feeling better after knocking my noodle on the pavement the other night so i might go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Jackson Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, Not greg b said: Arctic cat back in the day. Cat won every single pro sx race in the 2000-2001 season. When tucker came back to snowcross after his brake from it, he was cat’s sno cross program. After he retired in 2018 they have been non existent in the top snocross classes. Kind of comparing apples and oranges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 31 minutes ago, J. Jackson said: Kind of comparing apples and oranges. Not really. Cat had a super strong team back in the zr days. Here is their over all results last time they were good (2018). It’s skidoos turn now to rule the roost. Another factor is arctic cat does not exist in sno cross anymore. It’s basically a doo/poo shootout now in all the classes. The odds of one them getting most of the podiums in the race is very high. https://www.arcticinsider.com/team-arctic-rewrites-race-history-in-snocross-cross-country/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 48 minutes ago, Not greg b said: Probably isn’t muddy at all. More than likely a skating rink because it got cold after the 24 hour rain storm. I am finally feeling better after knocking my noodle on the pavement the other night so i might go. last year wasn't bad in March... the year before was it you or me that almost lost a boot in the muck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK440 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 8 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: yes... Cat in 2018 owned every class all season long. utter domination. the competition has caught up and surpassed what is essentially the same machine from 2018 give or take a few fuel injection changes. also, the Doo talent pool is strong... and Polaris is equally good. when you have one rider in pro (Benham) and one or two riders in pro-lite that's a statement, and it isn't a positive one. should be interesting to see how the new Cat racer for 24 stacks up... which they should imo be racing and dialing in this season. https://www.arcticinsider.com/team-arctic-rewrites-race-history-in-snocross-cross-country/ Polaris would have a better chance if they weren’t still running the same, geriatric IQR/600R that was first debuted in Michigan with DJ Eckstrom in the spring of ‘04. The fucking thing is 20 model years old! And people bash Cat about the Procross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, AK440 said: Polaris would have a better chance if they weren’t still running the same, geriatric IQR/600R that was first debuted in Michigan with DJ Eckstrom in the spring of ‘04. The fucking thing is 20 model years old! And people bash Cat about the Procross. it's amazingly competitive and has been continuously refined... plenty of Poo racers getting on the box this season. current points as of last night Pro... Rider Hometown Sled Points 1 Elias Ishoel Oppdal, 16 Ski-Doo 257 2 Kody Kamm Kansasville, WI Polaris 241 3 Logan Christian Fertile, MN Ski-Doo 224 4 Emil Harr Sorsele, AB Polaris 220 5 Adam Peterson Medford, WI Polaris 215 6 Hunter Patenaude Hartland, VT Ski-Doo 214 7 Francis Pelletier ST Felicien, QC Ski-Doo 213 8 Daniel Benham Deer River, MN Arctic Cat 209 9 Petter Narsa Alvsbyn, BD Ski-Doo 193 10 Cole Cottew Zimmerman, MN Polaris 162 11 Travis Kern Aitkin, MN Polaris 161 12 Aki Pihlaja Rovaniemi, 10 Ski-Doo 110 13 Gustav Sahlsten Umeå, AC Ski-Doo 98 14 John Malmstrom Kalix, AB Polaris 75 15 Oskar Norum Bjurholm, AB Polaris 45 16 Robert Lunden TYDAL, 01 Ski-Doo 10 Pro-Lite Rider Hometown Sled Points 1 Jordan Lebel Chicoutimi, QC Ski-Doo 306 2 Ryley Bester Prior Lake, MN Polaris 249 3 Andy Pake Felton, MN Ski-Doo 230 4 Marcus Ogemar Ostersund, Z Ski-Doo 227 5 Anson Scheele North Branch, MN Arctic Cat 219 6 Evan Daudt Longville, MN Polaris 216 7 Evan Christian Finley, ND Polaris 214 8 Emeric Legendre Sainte-Julie, QC Ski-Doo 194 9 Baily Forst Thief River Falls, MN Polaris 159 10 Gustav Salomonsson funasdalen, Z Ski-Doo 145 11 Topi Posti Rovaniemi, 10 Ski-Doo 141 12 Kenny Mandryk Neebing, ON Ski-Doo 136 13 Eric Downs Jordan, MN Polaris 135 14 Tyler Oomen Hart, MI Arctic Cat 111 15 Dylan Roes Lowville, NY Ski-Doo 108 16 Oskar Englund Milaca, MN Arctic Cat 102 17 Jesse Kirchmeyer Arcade, NY Polaris 97 18 Trent Wittwer bemidji, MN Arctic Cat 88 19 Jeremy Beaulieu Saint-Denis sur Richelieu, QC Ski-Doo 71 20 Cale Callan Phelpston, ON Ski-Doo 70 21 Andy Lieders Wausau, WI Polaris 57 22 Nickolas Lorenz Kenosha, WI Polaris 53 23 Mitchell Gross Princeton, MN Arctic Cat 47 24 Joonas Keskiaho Rovaniemi, 10 Ski-Doo 43 25 Brandon Lind Antioch, IL Arctic Cat 41 26 Filip Harr Elk river, MN Polaris 37 27 Troy Horbaty TYNDALL, MB Other 30 28 Blake Taylor Orangeville, ON Ski-Doo 14 29 Adam Ashline Hartland, VT Ski-Doo 13 30 Devin Denman Beaver dam, WI Arctic Cat 8 31 Kyle Kunstman Delavan, WI Ski-Doo 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK440 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 But Polaris isn’t taking firsts or dominating. No one gives a shit about 2nd 3rds or mid pack results. Kind of hard for the marketing department to make great ads proclaiming look at us! We got 2nd or 3rd place, hurrah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, AK440 said: But Polaris isn’t taking firsts or dominating. No one gives a shit about 2nd 3rds or mid pack results. Kind of hard for the marketing department to make great ads proclaiming look at us! We got 2nd or 3rd place, hurrah! that's season point totals per class... Polaris riders have been on the box and in 1st you can find all the info here... https://snocross.com/national/results/ Polaris marketing dept doesn't care about SX, XC, the GD Soo, ID, MIRA or any other racing. they're too busy marketing fun factor, unmatched durability and dodging the fireball recall questions. but, they're putting a hell of a lot more effort into racing than Textron is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) ERX night two... Ishoel comes out for opening ceremonies on an ASS DRAGGER Pro H1 Hunter / Benham / Narsa - Ishoel 4th Pro H2 Kamm / Franc / Cottew ProL H1 Posti / KENNY / Daudt - Kenny led until the last lap ProL H2 Scheele / Lorenz / Christian - Anson made up for last nights f'ups BIG TIME ProL H3 Bester / Ogemar / Downs - Jordan laid it down in a corner - 8th and going to LCQ? Pro H3 Pattenaude / Cottew / Ishoel - Cole had a nice run. Pro H4 Kamm / Benham / Peterson - hope Emil's ok, too many pro's out due to injury ProL H4 Ogemar / Posti / Forst ProL H5 Bester / Scheele / Lorenz - Anson, charging hard again. Can't hurt having Yurk in his ear. ProL L H6 Lebel / Daudt / Legendre - Kenny jumped the start and had to go to the back of the pack, 5th 120 CHAMP - damn' those kids are having fun! ProL Final Lebel / Bester / Ogemar - Anson was running second and decided to ride the Bull... over the bars. Bester and Lebel had a good cat and mouse game going, Riley didn't make it one bit easy. Lebel - 8 consecutive final wins, surpassing Ishoel's P/L record. Pro Final Patenaude / Ishoel / Benham Hunter led from the start with Benham right behind him the entire time, Ishoel went from 6th to 3rd and got by DB on the final lap in his usual fashion. Happy for DB - he and All Finish really needed this. Edited February 19, 2023 by Crnr2Crnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Sioux Falls this weekend and our local Beatercross Race... which is awesome! https://snocross.com/sioux-falls-snocross-national/ https://www.facebook.com/events/829731704958157?active_tab=about current standings - Pro Rider Hometown Sled Points 1 Elias Ishoel Oppdal, 16 Ski-Doo 294 2 Kody Kamm Kansasville, WI Polaris 277 3 Hunter Patenaude Hartland, VT Ski-Doo 259 4 Logan Christian Fertile, MN Ski-Doo 250 5 Daniel Benham Deer River, MN Arctic Cat 247 6 Francis Pelletier ST Felicien, QC Ski-Doo 247 7 Emil Harr Sorsele, AB Polaris 247 8 Adam Peterson Medford, WI Polaris 241 9 Petter Narsa Alvsbyn, BD Ski-Doo 221 10 Cole Cottew Zimmerman, MN Polaris 190 current standing - Pro Lite Rider Hometown Sled Points 1 Jordan Lebel Chicoutimi, QC Ski-Doo 344 2 Ryley Bester Prior Lake, MN Polaris 291 3 Marcus Ogemar Ostersund, Z Ski-Doo 266 4 Andy Pake Felton, MN Ski-Doo 257 5 Anson Scheele North Branch, MN Arctic Cat 248 6 Evan Christian Finley, ND Polaris 243 7 Evan Daudt Longville, MN Polaris 239 8 Emeric Legendre Sainte-Julie, QC Ski-Doo 207 9 Baily Forst Thief River Falls, MN Polaris 185 10 Topi Posti Rovaniemi, 10 Ski-Doo 176 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) Bumfuck East Dakota... Pro H1 Kamm / Logan / Benham - Narsa & Harr got tangled up on L1 Pro H2 Ish / Franc / Peterson ProL H1 Wittwer / Ogemar / Posti - Trent finally showing he's a former pro on his Cat ProL H2 Downs / Pake / Kirchmeyer - Snow Bike King just beat out Englund ProL H3 Lebel / Lorenz / Bester - Scheele was leading, then fell to fourth? sigh... track looks rough... Pro H3 Kamm / Hunter / Ishoel - Kody is having a great night Pro H4 Peterson / Franc / Harr - Pro Class is thin, four sleds took the start ProL H4 Posti / Scheele / Pake ProL H5 Bester / Christian / Downs ProL L H6 Lebel / Ogemar / Forst No Kenny... We have some unfortunate news about our pro-lite rider Kenny Mandryk who broke his wrist at practice earlier this week. Looking like 4-6 weeks for recovery. ProLite Final Lebel / Bester / Ogemar - Jordan got the hole shot and checked out. Pro Final Ishoel / Benham / Harr They didn't skimp on fireworks Edited March 5, 2023 by Crnr2Crnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw-50c Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 lebel and ishoel kicking ass as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 16 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: Bumfuck East Dakota... Pro H1 Kamm / Logan / Benham - Narsa & Harr got tangled up on L1 Pro H2 Ish / Franc / Peterson ProL H1 Wittwer / Ogemar / Posti - Trent finally showing he's a former pro on his Cat ProL H2 Downs / Pake / Kirchmeyer - Snow Bike King just beat out Englund ProL H3 Lebel / Lorenz / Bester - Scheele was leading, then fell to fourth? sigh... track looks rough... Pro H3 Kamm / Hunter / Ishoel - Kody is having a great night Pro H4 Peterson / Franc / Harr - Pro Class is thin, four sleds took the start ProL H4 Posti / Scheele / Pake ProL H5 Bester / Christian / Downs ProL L H6 Lebel / Ogemar / Forst No Kenny... We have some unfortunate news about our pro-lite rider Kenny Mandryk who broke his wrist at practice earlier this week. Looking like 4-6 weeks for recovery. ProL Final Lebel / Bester / Ogemar - Jordan got the holeshot and checked out. Pro Final Ishoel / Benjsm / Hstt Thry didn't skimp on fireworks How much more of disappointments can Kenny take? Kid seems like a good kid who doesn't come from much $ and was really hoping he'd lay down a complete season and keep getting better. Bummer for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 6 hours ago, hayward said: How much more of disappointments can Kenny take? Kid seems like a good kid who doesn't come from much $ and was really hoping he'd lay down a complete season and keep getting better. Bummer for him. yes... @fortune46x might be able to provide more info but from what we see of the Ctak vlog he comes off as well liked, humble and funny. especially enjoy his interactions and encouragement for the young racers. I'll root for guys like that all day long no matter what they're riding or finishing. games are about to begin, they're doing rider introductions... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 26 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: yes... @fortune46x might be able to provide more info but from what we see of the Ctak vlog he comes off as well liked, humble and funny. especially enjoy his interactions and encouragement for the young racers. I'll root for guys like that all day long no matter what they're riding or finishing. games are about to begin, they're doing rider introductions... Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 (edited) Dingleberry West Dakota... Night 2 Pro H1 Kamm / Benham / Pelletier - Kody was super smooth and DB had a great round... Ishoel 4th Pro H2 Patenaude / Harr / Peterson - great battle between Hunter & Emil. Cole Cottew had an ugly off into the fence??? there's @fortune46x, measuring ski width... c'mon A do something unepected. make them take the seat off or something more amusing... pull the skid, no wait... pull the track shaft to measure diameter? ProL H1 Bester / Pake / Daudt - c'mon Anson... you had 2nd, or 3rd ProL H2 Lorenz / Ogemar / Downs - Lebel... black flag? ProL H3 Legendre / Posti / Christian whut da fook... the best racer from Iceland leading/challenging Andy Lieders in PA30+? Sigurdsson / Lieders / Denman Pro H3 Kamm / Harr / Pelletier - DB 4th Pro H4 Peterson / Ishoel / Aki ProL H4 Bester / Christian / Ashline ProL H5 Wittwer / Lebel / Legendre - that a boy Trent (apparently they figured out a slipper gear issue, and a belt issue, and a they aren't on a Catalyst issue.) ProL L H6 Lorenz / Daudt / Ogemar ProLite Final Lebel / Bester / Posti - Lebel 10 final wins - some good battles in this one. Pro Final Ishoel / Patenaude/ Peterson Edited March 5, 2023 by Crnr2Crnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 2/18/2023 at 4:10 PM, AK440 said: Polaris would have a better chance if they weren’t still running the same, geriatric IQR/600R that was first debuted in Michigan with DJ Eckstrom in the spring of ‘04. The fucking thing is 20 model years old! And people bash Cat about the Procross. So what you are saying is that a 20 year old Polaris is better than a 10 year old Arctic Cat. Results definitely show that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Sweet Jeezus they're running clockwise at ERX!!!! and, fucking snowbikes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 current points standings heading into the weekend Pro... Rider Hometown Sled Points 1 Elias Ishoel Oppdal, 16 Ski-Doo 378 2 Kody Kamm Kansasville, WI Polaris 350 3 Hunter Patenaude Hartland, VT Ski-Doo 329 4 Emil Harr Sorsele, AB Polaris 315 5 Daniel Benham Deer River, MN Arctic Cat 313 6 Adam Peterson Medford, WI Polaris 309 7 Francis Pelletier ST Felicien, QC Ski-Doo 307 8 Logan Christian Fertile, MN Ski-Doo 304 9 Petter Narsa Alvsbyn, BD Ski-Doo 247 10 Cole Cottew Zimmerman, MN Polaris 220 Pro-Lite... Rider Hometown Sled Points 1 Jordan Lebel Chicoutimi, QC Ski-Doo 428 2 Ryley Bester Prior Lake, MN Polaris 373 3 Marcus Ogemar Ostersund, Z Ski-Doo 332 4 Andy Pake Felton, MN Ski-Doo 314 5 Anson Scheele North Branch, MN Arctic Cat 307 6 Evan Daudt Longville, MN Polaris 299 7 Evan Christian Finley, ND Polaris 297 8 Emeric Legendre Sainte-Julie, QC Ski-Doo 259 9 Topi Posti Rovaniemi, 10 Ski-Doo 248 10 Baily Forst Thief River Falls, MN Polaris 230 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) ERX again... will be there tomorrow night. BIG changeup... Pro-Lite, then Pro 3X Crown format... and CLOCKWISE track orientation Good looking track... ProL H1 Scheele / Lundqvist / Daudt - Bester, Pake and ? got in a tangle chasing down Anson but were coming hard for him. ProL H2 Ogemar / Kirchmeyer / Posti - snowbike champ stepping it up... and watch this Posti kid ProL H3 Lebel / Salomonsson / Wittwer - Jordan checked out from the hole shot and then it was a race for 2nd Pro Triple Crown which apparently gives too much power of the wand to our resident tech inspector because the racers can switch from primary to secondary sled. Three eight minute +1lap heats... should be interesting. This is (imo) fixing a quickly dwindling Pro field due to injuries. Pro H1 Harr / Pelletier / Benham - AP3 was leading and something broke - Emil was absolutely on fire coming through the pack, great lines! Polaris sleds are NOT down on power this year in the ole IQR. and, idk wtf is wrong with Scheuring not being able to keep their mag side body panel on Hunters sled? maybe I'll take some zip ties along tomorrow... ProL H4 Downs / Lundqvist / Christian ProL H5 Ogemar / Forst / Posti - Anson (4th) in the hunt and went off the track, so did Lebel (9th) - possibly clockwise funk ProL L H6 Bester / Salomonsson / Ashline - Snowbike man 42 had a good run and is getting better Pro H2 Aki / Elias / Francis - Harr 4th after a bad start. Pro Class is a bit of a shit show this year, but still very competitive and fun to watch. ProL Final Daudt / Lebel / Ogemar - Daudt is the first to beat Lebel this season, great job. Pro H3 Harr / Peterson / Kamm - all Polaris - Harr had a great night Pro Final Results - based on Total Points from Triple Crown Harr / Franc / Aki Edited March 11, 2023 by Crnr2Crnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 ERX last night... was a great time with some great racing and a fun time visiting with old friends and new. the smell of race fuel, the sound of the sleds and watching these kids perform can't nearly be appreciated watching it on a screen. Jordan Lebel put on quite a performance in the Pro-Lite final... the kid is the next TH68, imo Few more broken SkiDoo's last night but they dominated the podium. Michigan is up next and for those able to attend, do so... https://snocross.com/cannonsburg-snocross-national/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 It is crazy how they had to change the format of how the pros are ran. They don’t have enough riders to do heat races. I think they said there is only 9 riders left in the pro class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Not greg b said: It is crazy how they had to change the format of how the pros are ran. They don’t have enough riders to do heat races. I think they said there is only 9 riders left in the pro class I like the format of three eight minute +1 lap heats. Don't like seeing all the injuries though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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