What did we gain? To all you people that thought a stimulus was necessary

[Sleepr2]

1 minute ago, 1jkw said:

Sober up if you can, or have someone get some crayons and draw you a picture, when you constantly defend the greatest spender in our lifetime you are visa vee defending his spending, the 2 are the same.

Pointing out leftists lies and hypocrisy is not defending trump, he was worthless on stopping the leftists agenda and a fool with the second amendment, you,should love him , he’s more of a leftist than a pubbie.

[Highmark]

11 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

Yes I agree 100% and Trump the "outsider" did exactly the same on a larger scale when it came to spending.

He did not go far enough.

https://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/commentary/trump-budget-cuts-size-federal-government-bolder-reforms-needed

[1jkw]

3 minutes ago, Pete said:

Yes you are 

you’ve been all in the left since the Kenyan days.

Not true. 

Again not true, I fully supported Trump naming China a currency manipulator on day 1 when he took office, I supported his pulling out of the Iraq and Afg., I supported replacing ACA with a better cheaper plan, to name a few things too bad he did none of them.

[1jkw]

6 minutes ago, Sleepr2 said:

Pointing out leftists lies and hypocrisy is not defending trump, he was worthless on stopping the leftists agenda and a fool with the second amendment, you,should love him , he’s more of a leftist than a pubbie.

There is no bigger hypocrite on this site than you, you are just too drunk to see it.

[racer254]

Just now, 1jkw said:

There is no bigger hypocrite on this site than you, you are just too drunk to see it.

How many more headlines do you want?  Which one of these cuts effected you?

Trump administration to cut its financial contribution to NATO
Fleshed-Out Trump Budget Would Cut $48.8 Billion in Program Spending
New documents reflect aggressive set of actions to redefine the role of government.
Trump’s Budget Proposes More Than $200 Billion in Cuts to Students
Trump to Cut Medicare and Social Security If Re-Elected
Trump’s Budget Cuts Spending on Vets, Farmers, Students, Seniors and the Poor

[1jkw]

1 minute ago, racer254 said:

How many more headlines do you want?  Which one of these cuts effected you?

Trump administration to cut its financial contribution to NATO
Fleshed-Out Trump Budget Would Cut $48.8 Billion in Program Spending
New documents reflect aggressive set of actions to redefine the role of government.
Trump’s Budget Proposes More Than $200 Billion in Cuts to Students
Trump to Cut Medicare and Social Security If Re-Elected
Trump’s Budget Cuts Spending on Vets, Farmers, Students, Seniors and the Poor

Did the debt and deficit go up or down during Trump's term? Answer this question or exclude me from your posts.

[Sleepr2]

4 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

There is no bigger hypocrite on this site than you, you are just too drunk to see it.

Triggered eh, try a bran muffin you seem a bit “tense” 

[racer254]

2 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

Did the debt and deficit go up or down during Trump's term? Answer this question or exclude me from your posts.

What's wrong, can't admit the actual problem was not trump?  FFS look at the swamp, both republicans and democrats won't cut spending even when the president wants to.

Trump Administration Looking To Cut Spending Abroad, Rein In ‘Wasteful’ Programs
In President Trump's New Budget, HIV Programs Are at Risk
Trump administration proposes $7.1 billion funding cut to Education Department
Trump's proposed cuts as part of his 2018 budget proposal were dramatic even by Republican standards: a 21% cut in Agriculture programs, an 18% cut in Health and Human Services, a 13% cut in Transportation funding, to name three.

[1jkw]

Just now, Sleepr2 said:

Triggered eh, try a bran muffin you seem a bit “tense” 

Thank god for memes, your drunken brain lacks the ability to have original thoughts.  

Not tense at all just sitting here laughing at the lame attempts to justify the greatest spender in my lifetime while waiting for a call that my truck is ready to be picked up.

[Sleepr2]

2 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

Thank god for memes, your drunken brain lacks the ability to have original thoughts.  

Not tense at all just sitting here laughing at the lame attempts to justify the greatest spender in my lifetime while waiting for a call that my truck is ready to be picked up.

Nah, you’re triggered by your hypocrisy, not to mention your lies.

still waiting for the link to me cheering spending.

 

Six Categories of Waste

The six categories of wasteful and unnecessary spending are:

1. Programs that should be devolved to state and local governments;
2. Programs that could be better performed by the private sector;
3. Mistargeted programs whose recipients should not be entitled to government benefits;
4. Outdated and unnecessary programs;
5. Duplicative programs; and
6. Inefficiency, mismanagement, and fraud.

The first four categories are generally subjective, and reasonable people can disagree on whether a given federal program falls under their purview. Yet the final two categories -- duplication and inefficiency, mismanagement, and fraud -- are comparatively easy to identify and oppose. Thus, they are heavily represented in the examples of government waste below:

 

 

1. The federal government made at least $72 billion in improper payments in 2008.[1]
2. Washington spends $92 billion on corporate welfare (excluding TARP) versus $71 billion on homeland security.[2]
3. Washington spends $25 billion annually maintaining unused or vacant federal properties.[3]
4. Government auditors spent the past five years examining all federal programs and found that 22 percent of them -- costing taxpayers a total of $123 billion annually -- fail to show any positive impact on the populations they serve.[4]
5. The Congressional Budget Office published a "Budget Options" series identifying more than $100 billion in potential spending cuts.[5]
6. Examples from multiple Government Accountability Office (GAO) reports of wasteful duplication include 342 economic development programs; 130 programs serving the disabled; 130 programs serving at-risk youth; 90 early childhood development programs; 75 programs funding international education, cultural, and training exchange activities; and 72 safe water programs.[6]
7. Washington will spend $2.6 million training Chinese prostitutes to drink more responsibly on the job.[7]
8. A GAO audit classified nearly half of all purchases on government credit cards as improper, fraudulent, or embezzled. Examples of taxpayer-funded purchases include gambling, mortgage payments, liquor, lingerie, iPods, Xboxes, jewelry, Internet dating services, and Hawaiian vacations. In one extraordinary example, the Postal Service spent $13,500 on one dinner at a Ruth's Chris Steakhouse, including "over 200 appetizers and over $3,000 of alcohol, including more than 40 bottles of wine costing more than $50 each and brand-name liquor such as Courvoisier, Belvedere and Johnny Walker Gold." The 81 guests consumed an average of $167 worth of food and drink apiece.[8]
9. Federal agencies are delinquent on nearly 20 percent of employee travel charge cards, costing taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars annually.[9]
10. The Securities and Exchange Commission spent $3.9 million rearranging desks and offices at its Washington, D.C., headquarters.[10]
11. The Pentagon recently spent $998,798 shipping two 19-cent washers from South Carolina to Texas and $293,451 sending an 89-cent washer from South Carolina to Florida.[11]
12. Over half of all farm subsidies go to commercial farms, which report average household incomes of $200,000.[12]
13. Health care fraud is estimated to cost taxpayers more than $60 billion annually.[13]
14. A GAO audit found that 95 Pentagon weapons systems suffered from a combined $295 billion in cost overruns.[14]
15. The refusal of many federal employees to fly coach costs taxpayers $146 million annually in flight upgrades.[15]
16. Washington will spend $126 million in 2009 to enhance the Kennedy family legacy in Massachusetts. Additionally, Senator John Kerry (D-MA) diverted $20 million from the 2010 defense budget to subsidize a new Edward M. Kennedy Institute.[16]
17. Federal investigators have launched more than 20 criminal fraud investigations related to the TARP financial bailout.[17]
18. Despite trillion-dollar deficits, last year's 10,160 earmarks included $200,000 for a tattoo removal program in Mission Hills, California; $190,000 for the Buffalo Bill Historical Center in Cody, Wyoming; and $75,000 for the Totally Teen Zone in Albany, Georgia.[18]
19. The federal government owns more than 50,000 vacant homes.[19]
20. The Federal Communications Commission spent $350,000 to sponsor NASCAR driver David Gilliland.[20]
21. Members of Congress have spent hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars supplying their offices with popcorn machines, plasma televisions, DVD equipment, ionic air fresheners, camcorders, and signature machines -- plus $24,730 leasing a Lexus, $1,434 on a digital camera, and $84,000 on personalized calendars.[21]
22. More than $13 billion in Iraq aid has been classified as wasted or stolen. Another $7.8 billion cannot be accounted for.[22]
23. Fraud related to Hurricane Katrina spending is estimated to top $2 billion. In addition, debit cards provided to hurricane victims were used to pay for Caribbean vacations, NFL tickets, Dom Perignon champagne, "Girls Gone Wild" videos, and at least one sex change operation.[23]
24. Auditors discovered that 900,000 of the 2.5 million recipients of emergency Katrina assistance provided false names, addresses, or Social Security numbers or submitted multiple applications.[24]
25. Congress recently gave Alaska Airlines $500,000 to paint a Chinook salmon on a Boeing 737.[25]
26. The Transportation Department will subsidize up to $2,000 per flight for direct flights between Washington, D.C., and the small hometown of Congressman Hal Rogers (R-KY) -- but only on Monday mornings and Friday evenings, when lawmakers, staff, and lobbyists usually fly. Rogers is a member of the Appropriations Committee, which writes the Transportation Department's budget.[26]
27. Washington has spent $3 billion re-sanding beaches -- even as this new sand washes back into the ocean.[27]
28. A Department of Agriculture report concedes that much of the $2.5 billion in "stimulus" funding for broadband Internet will be wasted.[28]
29. The Defense Department wasted $100 million on unused flight tickets and never bothered to collect refunds even though the tickets were refundable.[29]
30. Washington spends $60,000 per hour shooting Air Force One photo-ops in front of national landmarks.[30]
31. Over one recent 18-month period, Air Force and Navy personnel used government-funded credit cards to charge at least $102,400 on admission to entertainment events, $48,250 on gambling, $69,300 on cruises, and $73,950 on exotic dance clubs and prostitutes.[31]
32. Members of Congress are set to pay themselves $90 million to increase their franked mailings for the 2010 election year.[32]
33. Congress has ignored efficiency recommendations from the Department of Health and Human Services that would save $9 billion annually.[33]
34. Taxpayers are funding paintings of high-ranking government officials at a cost of up to $50,000 apiece.[34]
35. The state of Washington sent $1 food stamp checks to 250,000 households in order to raise state caseload figures and trigger $43 million in additional federal funds.[35]
36. Suburban families are receiving large farm subsidies for the grass in their backyards -- subsidies that many of these families never requested and do not want. [36]
37. Congress appropriated $20 million for "commemoration of success" celebrations related to Iraq and Afghanistan.[37]
38. Homeland Security employee purchases include 63-inch plasma TVs, iPods, and $230 for a beer brewing kit.[38]
39. Two drafting errors in the 2005 Deficit Reduction Act resulted in a $2 billion taxpayer cost.[39]
40. North Ridgeville, Ohio, received $800,000 in "stimulus" funds for a project that its mayor described as "a long way from the top priority."[40]
41. The National Institutes of Health spends $1.3 million per month to rent a lab that it cannot use.[41]
42. Congress recently spent $2.4 billion on 10 new jets that the Pentagon insists it does not need and will not use.[42]
43. Lawmakers diverted $13 million from Hurricane Katrina relief spending to build a museum celebrating the Army Corps of Engineers -- the agency partially responsible for the failed levees that flooded New Orleans.[43]
44. Medicare officials recently mailed $50 million in erroneous refunds to 230,000 Medicare recipients.[44]
45. Audits showed $34 billion worth of Department of Homeland Security contracts contained significant waste, fraud, and abuse.[45]
46. Washington recently spent $1.8 million to help build a private golf course in Atlanta, Georgia.[46]
47. The Advanced Technology Program spends $150 million annually subsidizing private businesses; 40 percent of this funding goes to Fortune 500 companies.[47]
48. Congressional investigators were able to receive $55,000 in federal student loan funding for a fictional college they created to test the Department of Education.[48]
49. The Conservation Reserve program pays farmers $2 billion annually not to farm their land.[49]
50. The Commerce Department has lost 1,137 computers since 2001, many containing Americans personal information 

[racer254]

13 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

Thank god for memes, your drunken brain lacks the ability to have original thoughts.  

Not tense at all just sitting here laughing at the lame attempts to justify the greatest spender in my lifetime while waiting for a call that my truck is ready to be picked up.

You keep saying this, and only points to the fact that people have been able to manipulate you into thinking a person in office for 4 years who tried cuts is to blame.  Funny how easily you people forget what happened 3 years ago.

Why couldn't trump get the cuts he wanted?  Who was stopping him?  Answer those questions.

Edited May 12, 2022 by racer254

[1jkw]

15 minutes ago, Highmark said:

He did not go far enough.

https://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/commentary/trump-budget-cuts-size-federal-government-bolder-reforms-needed

Bottom line he didn't do near what he said he would do,  they needed annual 4.4 GDP just to cover the tax breaks, look up his 4th quarter GDP numbers for 2019. The way Trump is defended here is amazing to me, like Trump said pussy, no he said he would "grab them by the pussy" people say I'm mad or triggered by Trump, I'm not at all but I am amazed and amused by the lengths gone to in his defense. 

[Sleepr2]

1 minute ago, 1jkw said:

Bottom line he didn't do near what he said he would do,  they needed annual 4.4 GDP just to cover the tax breaks, look up his 4th quarter GDP numbers for 2019. The way Trump is defended here is amazing to me, like Trump said pussy, no he said he would "grab them by the pussy" people say I'm mad or triggered by Trump, I'm not at all but I am amazed and amused by the lengths gone to in his defense. 

LOL! 

bClinton] was impeached and lost his license to practice law and paid an $850,000 fine to Paula Jones

Jones sued Clinton for allegedly exposing himself to her in a hotel room in 1991. The Jones suit, which went all the way to the Supreme Court, was ultimately dismissed by a judge on the grounds Jones could not show damages. While it was on appeal, Bill Clinton paid $850,000 to settle the suit without admitting liability.

That lawsuit spun out into a much larger story — and is ultimately why many of the other alleged Clinton sexual misdeeds came to light as other women were deposed, as was President Clinton himself.

 

All sexually assaulted by Bill Clinton 

Eileen Wellstone 

Juanita Broadwick 

Carolyn Moffet

Elizabeth Ward'

Sally Perdue

Paula Jones 

Sandra AllenJames 

Christy Zercher

Kathleen Willey.

 

Anonymous female student at Yale University (1972)

Anonymous female student at the University of Arkansas (1974)

Anonymous female lawyer (1977)

 

[1jkw]

9 minutes ago, racer254 said:

You keep saying this, and only points to the fact that people have been able to manipulate you into thinking a person in office for 4 years who tried cuts is to blame.  Funny how easily you people forget what happened 3 years ago.

Why couldn't trump get the cuts he wanted?  Who was stopping him?  Answer those questions.

No one was stopping him he just needed not to sign his name, it's just that simple.

[racer254]

Just now, 1jkw said:

Bottom line he didn't do near what he said he would do,  they needed annual 4.4 GDP just to cover the tax breaks, look up his 4th quarter GDP numbers for 2019. The way Trump is defended here is amazing to me, like Trump said pussy, no he said he would "grab them by the pussy" people say I'm mad or triggered by Trump, I'm not at all but I am amazed and amused by the lengths gone to in his defense. 

There are a lot of lies that keep being pushed by pelosi and people like you.  If debunking those lies is considered defending trump then so be it.  The bottom line is these people who were blocking his cuts are the problem with washington and even trump could not get around that.  How fast you seem to forget what happened in 2019.

[1jkw]

1 minute ago, Sleepr2 said:

LOL! 

bClinton] was impeached and lost his license to practice law and paid an $850,000 fine to Paula Jones

Jones sued Clinton for allegedly exposing himself to her in a hotel room in 1991. The Jones suit, which went all the way to the Supreme Court, was ultimately dismissed by a judge on the grounds Jones could not show damages. While it was on appeal, Bill Clinton paid $850,000 to settle the suit without admitting liability.

That lawsuit spun out into a much larger story — and is ultimately why many of the other alleged Clinton sexual misdeeds came to light as other women were deposed, as was President Clinton himself.

 

All sexually assaulted by Bill Clinton 

Eileen Wellstone 

Juanita Broadwick 

Carolyn Moffet

Elizabeth Ward'

Sally Perdue

Paula Jones 

Sandra AllenJames 

Christy Zercher

Kathleen Willey.

 

Anonymous female student at Yale University (1972)

Anonymous female student at the University of Arkansas (1974)

Anonymous female lawyer (1977)

 

And other than Trump had just as many or more cases of sexual abuse and spousal rape what does this have to do with the topic of spending? Drunk still I guess.

[Sleepr2]

2 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

And other than Trump had just as many or more cases of sexual abuse and spousal rape what does this have to do with the topic of spending? Drunk still I guess.

Goes to show your selective outrage, 

still waiting for the link to me cheering spending? 
 

you must be drunk, you’re the on deflecting to “ grabem by the pussy

Edited May 12, 2022 by Sleepr2

[1jkw]

2 minutes ago, racer254 said:

There are a lot of lies that keep being pushed by pelosi and people like you.  If debunking those lies is considered defending trump then so be it.  The bottom line is these people who were blocking his cuts are the problem with washington and even trump could not get around that.  How fast you seem to forget what happened in 2019.

I'm not pushing any lies, I saw him say he would have done more stimulus spending.

Yes he could, he just lacked the resolve to do it, again don't sign.

[racer254]

Just now, Sleepr2 said:

Goes to show your selective outrage, 

still waiting for the link to me cheering spending? 

He, like many others, won't admit the real problem, they just want to blame trump.  For some reason they seem to think that washington politicians with a D or an R represent some "team" and they just blindly follow the ones that give out the most $$.

[1jkw]

1 minute ago, Sleepr2 said:

Goes to show your selective outrage, 

still waiting for the link to me cheering spending? 

What selective outrage you are the one constantly sticking up for the biggest spender in our lifetime not me. 

You are here making a case for Trump, even bringing up Clinton to do so, Trump is the biggest spender, you must love you some spending to go to such lengths to support him.

[racer254]

1 minute ago, 1jkw said:

I'm not pushing any lies, I saw him say he would have done more stimulus spending.

Yes he could, he just lacked the resolve to do it, again don't sign.

You keep pushing the lie that trump didn't propose spending cuts.  He wanted all kinds of cuts, but congress would not agree with any of them.  It is as though the minions have forgotten how budgets are passed.

[Sleepr2]

3 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

I'm not pushing any lies, I saw him say he would have done more stimulus spending.

Yes he could, he just lacked the resolve to do it, again don't sign.

Please direct me to your opposition to Biden’s spending bills 

[racer254]

1 minute ago, 1jkw said:

What selective outrage you are the one constantly sticking up for the biggest spender in our lifetime not me. 

You are here making a case for Trump, even bringing up Clinton to do so, Trump is the biggest spender, you must love you some spending to go to such lengths to support him.

"All of these people favor cuts in the abstract until you get to the actual consequences," said Norm Ornstein, a congressional scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, a Washington think tank.

Norm is talking about people like you.

[1jkw]

2 minutes ago, racer254 said:

He, like many others, won't admit the real problem, they just want to blame trump.  For some reason they seem to think that washington politicians with a D or an R represent some "team" and they just blindly follow the ones that give out the most $$.

No, you just lack the ability to understand that without the presidents signature the spending doesn't happen, the president is the only person with that singular power.

[racer254]

Just now, 1jkw said:

No, you just lack the ability to understand that without the presidents signature the spending doesn't happen, the president is the only person with that singular power.

He shut down government once.  Do you remember why?