X2700 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Textron picked cat up on the best upswing in sled sales since early nineties and blew what could of been record sales years for them!! local cat dealer made call to factory to try and at least get a number of sleds he can order and they will give him no info as of a week ago.He has a list of guys wanting sleds but he will not take money till he knows what hes allotted. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gym Ramstud Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Ziemann said: Warm Welcome Gym! Gym's pleased to make your acquaintance. 43 minutes ago, Badger** said: Gym's not much of a drinker. Gym likes the weed. 1 hour ago, fortune46x said: Every morning I come on here and it doesn't disappoint. Gym finds this rather peculiar. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat45 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 10 hours ago, racinfarmer said: What The Literal Fuck It's just a brisk trail ride! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Ziemann said: @X2700 is right 100%. To say that the Matryx is nothing more than a plastic change is complete ignorance.... At least Polaris has evolved. It is a complete package. Cat? Old, poor ergos, poor instrumentation, a rear suspension that needs to be updated, slow 2 strokes, poor parts availability, and an abysmal dealer network. There are very few decent Cat dealers left- altho there are a few like Country Cat.... Again- Yamaha is at least putting forth some effort to be competitive and is doing a pretty good job of it. Cat? Just look at Cats effort at releasing their '23's to see how committed they are to the sled market .... Nah, everything is fine. 😆 Wonder what some green gogglers will say about the procrisis if/when a new 'chassis' is released? I mean c'mon, there's nothing better... it's not possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 Wow, I'm gone for 24 hours and the escaped mental patient is still raging on and being corrected at every turn. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p51mstg Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 6 hours ago, X2700 said: Textron picked cat up on the best upswing in sled sales since early nineties and blew what could of been record sales years for them!! local cat dealer made call to factory to try and at least get a number of sleds he can order and they will give him no info as of a week ago.He has a list of guys wanting sleds but he will not take money till he knows what hes allotted. That really sucks. I don't know which dealer you're talking about, but if it's the one I think it is, I'm not surprised at his integrity. I feel bad for dealers in this situation. 13 days before Cat officially lays all their cards on the table, and I hope for everyone's sake that they deliver a good hand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 I've been told the hand won't be good...but that is no surprise to anyone but Jim, ie, not Gym. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X2700 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, p51mstg said: That really sucks. I don't know which dealer you're talking about, but if it's the one I think it is, I'm not surprised at his integrity. I feel bad for dealers in this situation. 13 days before Cat officially lays all their cards on the table, and I hope for everyone's sake that they deliver a good hand. Moto-proz sure tough on little guys trying to make a living!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bontz Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 8 hours ago, Ziemann said: @X2700 is right 100%. To say that the Matryx is nothing more than a plastic change is complete ignorance.... At least Polaris has evolved. It is a complete package. Cat? Old, poor ergos, poor instrumentation, a rear suspension that needs to be updated, slow 2 strokes, poor parts availability, and an abysmal dealer network. There are very few decent Cat dealers left- altho there are a few like Country Cat.... Again- Yamaha is at least putting forth some effort to be competitive and is doing a pretty good job of it. Cat? Just look at Cats effort at releasing their '23's to see how committed they are to the sled market .... And the fact you've been a Cat guy for so long, that will go completely unnoticed by someone like Jim. You're now officially a "Polaris Idiot" 7 hours ago, X2700 said: Textron picked cat up on the best upswing in sled sales since early nineties and blew what could of been record sales years for them!! local cat dealer made call to factory to try and at least get a number of sleds he can order and they will give him no info as of a week ago.He has a list of guys wanting sleds but he will not take money till he knows what hes allotted. Good for Mike and him recognizing the situation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X2700 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, Bontz said: And the fact you've been a Cat guy for so long, that will go completely unnoticed by someone like Jim. You're now officially a "Polaris Idiot" Good for Mike and him recognizing the situation! If I was a cat guy he’d be my dealer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bontz Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, X2700 said: If I was a cat guy he’d be my dealer! Yup, me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Fuck, I am just a guy and would buy from any of the 3.5 brands. They just need to build the right sled. Currently there are a few Poo and Doo sleds that make the Cat completely not on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soeaster Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 19 hours ago, Badger** said: If you need any more info come to old Badger. Sarah was hot in the day. Love that El Tigre'! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaddisFly Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, ZR6000RR said: Iron dog is only on the racer himself. Wrong as always. Wes Selby and Micah Huss, a Cat team, could not finish the race in 2019 because their engines failed. And before that -- back when more than just a few people chose to race Cats in the Iron Dog -- a bunch of Cat's new crossover sleds suffered engine failure and other component failures during the race. (I'm not sure what Cat's crossover model was called then, but it's the one that Cat created by copying Polaris's Switchback.) Cat defenders said bad fuel was to blame, but oddly enough, Poos didn't have any issues. It really comes down to engine quality, doesn't it? "Only the racer himself" = a laughable, easily disproved claim. Edited April 6, 2022 by CaddisFly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger** Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 1 hour ago, soeaster said: Love that El Tigre'! It has 350 original miles on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soeaster Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Badger** said: It has 350 original miles on it. Damn!!!! Looks like a free air? I had an '84 (same as '81) with twin pipes... Loved that sled! I wish they'd go back to graphics like that. Different shades of green against black. Classy and nostalgic! Edited April 7, 2022 by soeaster 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soeaster Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Badger** said: It has 350 original miles on it. Great pics, thanks for sharing! I'd love to have the Exciter in the background too. Edited April 7, 2022 by soeaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 10 hours ago, Cat45 said: It's just a brisk trail ride! All those years were just a waste. Just a brisk paced trail ride and it was all the machine on top of it. I think I need to sit down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 7, 2022 Author Share Posted April 7, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, CaddisFly said: Wrong as always. Wes Selby and Micah Huss, a Cat team, could not finish the race in 2019 because their engines failed. And before that -- back when more than just a few people chose to race Cats in the Iron Dog -- a bunch of Cat's new crossover sleds suffered engine failure and other component failures during the race. (I'm not sure what Cat's crossover model was called then, but it's the one that Cat created by copying Polaris's Switchback.) Cat defenders said bad fuel was to blame, but oddly enough, Poos didn't have any issues. It really comes down to engine quality, doesn't it? "Only the racer himself" = a laughable, easily disproved claim. I remember, but can't recall precisely if it was the racers or machines failures that kept them from the money rounds. In one aspect of cross country racing we've recently learned it's all due to the machine, but not others. As confusing as this may sound it makes perfect sense if your blood oxygen level normally resides under 89% 20 minutes ago, racinfarmer said: All those years were just a waste. Just a brisk paced trail ride and it was all the machine on top of it. I think I need to sit down. If you exceeded 50mph, it was also a waste. Got an extra chair? This place is making me seasick lately Edited April 7, 2022 by Crnr2Crnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 22 minutes ago, racinfarmer said: All those years were just a waste. Just a brisk paced trail ride and it was all the machine on top of it. I think I need to sit down. 1 minute ago, Crnr2Crnr said: I remember, but can't recall precisely if it was the racers or machines failures that kept them from the money rounds. In one aspect of cross country racing we've recently learned it's all due to the machine, but not others. As confusing as this may sound it makes perfect sense if your blood oxygen level normally resides under 89% If you exceeded 50mph, it was also a waste. Got an extra chair? This place is making me seasick lately This is worse then the time Quagmire found out Taylor Hanson is a guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger** Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 (edited) Hey C2C we haven't had this much fun since that one guy from China hacked into HCS. I'll never forget what he wrote. 明尼蘇達州有很不一樣的季節。我們的夏天很熱，在夏天，你會要帶一些短褲。也要帶有用的衣服，我們會去有用很多。明尼蘇達的冬天非常冷。你會要帶很多很厚的衣服，和也要帶溫暖的鞋子和外套，我們可能去滑雪。這裡的春天和秋天是很舒服也很美麗。<<< This shit kills me every time I read it. Edited April 7, 2022 by Badger** 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gym Ramstud Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 4 hours ago, Bontz said: And the fact you've been a Cat guy for so long, that will go completely unnoticed by someone like Jim. You're now officially a "Polaris Idiot" Good for Mike and him recognizing the situation! Gym is stoked to have Ziemann on the red team. Ziemann is a thinker. Gym likes thinkers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat45 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, racinfarmer said: All those years were just a waste. Just a brisk paced trail ride and it was all the machine on top of it. I think I need to sit down. Yup all the machine, can't win unless it's a cat! Oh. Wait! Ummm didn't Dyrdahl win like 5 I500's on a doo after a lifetime on cat? I seem to remember a story about his 1st 500 win being on a borrowed or rented rev? ( this is just what i had heard, not saying it's fact) Edit: forgot his 1st win was in 2000 on a cat Edited April 7, 2022 by Cat45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 6 hours ago, Deephaven said: Fuck, I am just a guy and would buy from any of the 3.5 brands. They just need to build the right sled. Currently there are a few Poo and Doo sleds that make the Cat completely not on the list. I am thinking about buying a 10 year cat, an 800 crate motor, a belt drive, redoing the whole sled to new. Will probably have a bunch of cash in my pocket vs buying a new one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 7, 2022 Author Share Posted April 7, 2022 6 hours ago, Not greg b said: I am thinking about buying a 10 year cat, an 800 crate motor, a belt drive, redoing the whole sled to new. Will probably have a bunch of cash in my pocket vs buying a new one Buy @fortune46x's Frankenstein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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