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10 minutes ago, Anler said:

Difference is not alot of travel in and out a isolated poor areas. Their exposure was less. 

False every country experienced covid outbreaks. The poor countries simply had less deaths per million than the US because they treated covid immediately instead of letting get to the point it was untreatable 

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1 minute ago, jtssrx said:

False every country experienced covid outbreaks. The poor countries simply had less deaths per million than the US because they treated covid immediately instead of letting get to the point it was untreatable 

Every word out of your mouth is false.

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How did 3rd world countries with no established healthcare manage to treat C19 faster than the rest of the world? Did they have stockpiles of HeartGuard sitting around?
 

And if treating it immediately was the answer, doesn’t that indict your almighty Trump for not moving to treat it immediately instead of recommending bleach and light and saying it was contained and will be gone in no time?

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Just now, Deephaven said:

The world isn't flat.

...there now it is only your dumbass that doesn't.  My statement above is also right.  If it isn't provide some proof.

Again the numbers don't lie. The United states has more deaths and More cases than an other country. Compare the US to Sweden. Sweden did nothing no masks no lockdowns no forced vaccines. They have less cases and deaths by a long shot. 

You provided no proof you just ran you mouth with some dumbass flat earth jab

 

 

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2 minutes ago, SShooterZ said:

How did 3rd world countries with no established healthcare manage to treat C19 faster than the rest of the world? Did they have stockpiles of HeartGuard sitting around?
 

And if treating it immediately was the answer, doesn’t that indict your almighty Trump for not moving to treat it immediately instead of recommending bleach and light and saying it was contained and will be gone in no time?

The United states to this day has no policy for treating covid. Anyone who's come up with a protocol for example Ivermectin or Hydroxcloriquin has been labeled a but job. 

 

Please explain why Sweden has lower numbers than the US when they did far less than the US? Blaming Trump is just Retard considering there are three times as Many cases today than this time last year. Biden has been president for 10 month now. Why didn't he fix all the covid issues? Maybe because government intervention doesn't work  

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1 hour ago, jtssrx said:

The United states to this day has no policy for treating covid. Anyone who's come up with a protocol for example Ivermectin or Hydroxcloriquin has been labeled a but job. 

Please explain why Sweden has lower numbers than the US when they did far less than the US? Blaming Trump is just Retard considering there are three times as Many cases today than this time last year. Biden has been president for 10 month now. Why didn't he fix all the covid issues? Maybe because government intervention doesn't work  

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2 hours ago, jtssrx said:

Again the numbers don't lie. The United states has more deaths and More cases than an other country. Compare the US to Sweden. Sweden did nothing no masks no lockdowns no forced vaccines. They have less cases and deaths by a long shot. 

You provided no proof you just ran you mouth with some dumbass flat earth jab

Ah, so Sweden is a 3rd world country.  I gave you an undisputable reason.  Natural selection still works in impoverished countries.  You claim they had treatment.  Show us this treatment and how/where they got it and could afford it.

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21 hours ago, akvanden said:

The disparities and lack of access to to healthcare can’t be ignored, and most likely explain the majority of the difference. Do you think they have access to Covid testing like westernized health systems? Do they have access to healthcare at all, most of the time?

 

Can’t report Covid if you have no mass means for testing.

You don't think if they had massive increases in fatalities it wouldn't be noted or people from the WHO in to investigate?  Don't just look at positive tests but also mortality.   The lack of healthcare works on both sides of the debate.  

21 hours ago, Anler said:

Difference is not alot of travel in and out a isolated poor areas. Their exposure was less. 

Supposedly still spreads like wildfire....travel or no travel.   It all came from ONE person in China.   If you had some cases then the whole country was at risk. 

  

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17 minutes ago, Highmark said:

You don't think if they had massive increases in fatalities it wouldn't be noted or people from the WHO in to investigate?  Don't just look at positive tests but also mortality.   The lack of healthcare works on both sides of the debate.  

  

Yes, like the like the unofficial count of millions dead in India from delta ripping through this past spring (that some scoff at on this site). Only unofficial because they didn't have the means or healthcare systems in place to house all those sick before dying, or testing them. 

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1 minute ago, akvanden said:

Yes, like the like the unofficial count of millions dead in India from delta ripping through this past spring (that some scoff at on this site). Only unofficial because they didn't have the means or healthcare systems in place to house all those sick before dying, or testing them. 

Got a link to that?

Unreal how they turned that around so quickly.

 

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14 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Got a link to that?

Unreal how they turned that around so quickly.

 

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No, because we've already been through this before, you've already seen the links posted. Your question was why haven't we seen the mortality, to which I responded we have, using India as an example. But I guess using your logic, these other countries were using Ivermectin all along (apparently not India until your graphs date) so they suffered millions of deaths while a country like Nigeria was ahead of the curve and was taking it daily already.

Here's Florida. Where can shall I put the Ivermectin indicator since they're now on a downwards trend?
 

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9 minutes ago, akvanden said:


No, because we've already been through this before, you've already seen the links posted. Your question was why haven't we seen the mortality, to which I responded we have, using India as an example. But I guess using your logic, these other countries were using Ivermectin all along (apparently not India until your graphs date) so they suffered millions of deaths while a country like Nigeria was ahead of the curve and was taking it daily already.

Here's Florida. Where can shall I put the Ivermectin indicator since they're now on a downwards trend?
 

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I don't recall a discussion about hidden or unofficial covid deaths in India. 

India wasn't listed in the top 10 for malaria infections in my original link.  They may not have had it in high use for that and parasitic infections as the drugs to treat each are different. 

So what caused Florida to spike and what caused it to drop?

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20 hours ago, Snake said:

Covid... :lol:

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19 hours ago, akvanden said:

Love the logic from a mask/lockdown/vaccine conspiracist saying wow, look at all the deaths in the US, must because we don’t use ivermectin. 
 

Sorry, I meant lack of logic. :smack:

The last part is understood and no need to state it.

39 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Got a link to that?

Unreal how they turned that around so quickly.

 

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No, because he’s using the “unofficial” moniker. :lol: I loved that.

13 minutes ago, Highmark said:

I don't recall a discussion about hidden or unofficial covid deaths in India. 

India wasn't listed in the top 10 for malaria infections in my original link.  They may not have had it in high use for that and parasitic infections as the drugs to treat each are different. 

So what caused Florida to spike and what caused it to drop?

The goalposts are now on large wheels.

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48 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Got a link to that?

Unreal how they turned that around so quickly.

 

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According to India, Ivermectin had nothing to do with the decrease.  

The Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) and the National Task Force on Covid-19 have dropped the use of Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) drugs from their revised guidelines for the treatment of the infection.

The decision was taken after experts found that these drugs have little to no effect on Covid-related mortality or clinical recovery of the patient.

https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/story/why-hcq-ivermectin-dropped-india-covid-treatment-protocol-1857306-2021-09-26

 

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3 minutes ago, Deephaven said:

According to India, Ivermectin had nothing to do with the decrease.  

The Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) and the National Task Force on Covid-19 have dropped the use of Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) drugs from their revised guidelines for the treatment of the infection.

The decision was taken after experts found that these drugs have little to no effect on Covid-related mortality or clinical recovery of the patient.

https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/story/why-hcq-ivermectin-dropped-india-covid-treatment-protocol-1857306-2021-09-26

 

Of course they did......after infections and deaths dropped off a cliff.   :lol:  

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48 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Of course they did......after infections and deaths dropped off a cliff.   :lol:  

No, right after the briefcases of ca$$$$h were flown in from the US pharmaceuticals demanding they stop using ivermectin and push experimental vaccines instead. If you look at their annual 10-K, you'll find a section titled "world wide corruption payoffs" for billions of dollars, since they had to send multiple briefcases to every single country (195). It all checks out, from an accounting, auditing, and conspiracy perspective. 

 

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5 minutes ago, akvanden said:

No, right after the briefcases of ca$$$$h were flown in from the US pharmaceuticals demanding they stop using ivermectin and push experimental vaccines instead. If you look at their annual 10-K, you'll find a section titled "world wide corruption payoffs" for billions of dollars, since they had to send multiple briefcases to every single country (195). It all checks out, from an accounting, auditing, and conspiracy perspective. 

 

Sooooo....nothing on the "unofficial deaths or Florida spike?"  :lmao:

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11 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Sooooo....nothing on the "unofficial deaths or Florida spike?"  :lmao:

Oh, sorry to leave you hanging. 

Delta, as was in India, as is or was in states and other countries. The severity of mortality rates are based on vaccination rates, local and state policies, etc.The drop? It's running it's course. First strain last year, now delta - will there be more? I hope not. There are only so many susceptible unvaccinated, vaccinated who are still susceptible, etc. The question, and its always been THE question, is how many do we want to lose along the way, and what are we willing to do in order to prevent deaths?

Here's your link(s), since you don't want to take the time to type in "India Deaths" into the google machine. And feel free to read it from any source that pleases you, rather than some lame MSM response.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/07/20/1018438334/indias-pandemic-death-toll-estimated-at-about-4-million-10-times-the-official-co

https://cgdev.org/publication/three-new-estimates-indias-all-cause-excess-mortality-during-covid-19-pandemic

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/08/global-covid-death-toll-higher-pandemic

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