"Green" energy

[Highmark]

Can't recycle the fiberglass blades so they bury them.  Same issue with lithium batteries. 

 

[ActionfigureJoe]

Texas should be ashamed. 

[BOHICA]

Vestas have developed a solution to the problem.  Figure 3 years to scale it up.  Hopefully in 3-5 years they can consider digging these up and recycle them.  I think they should just pile them up so as recycling becomes a reality on industrial scale they will be able to build new blades out of the pile without much effort

https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/end-wind-power-waste-vestas-unveils-blade-recycling-technology-2021-05-17/

Edited September 22, 2021 by BOHICA

[ActionfigureJoe]

21 minutes ago, BOHICA said:

Vestas have developed a solution to the problem.  Figure 3 years to scale it up.  Hopefully we can in 3-5 years they can consider digging these up and recycle them.  I think they should just pile them up so as recycling becomes a reality on industrial scale they will be able to build new blades out of the pile.

https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/end-wind-power-waste-vestas-unveils-blade-recycling-technology-2021-05-17/

It's but a matter of time when lithium batteries of both type becomes economically desirable. 

[BOHICA]

Just now, ActionfigureJoe said:

It's but a matter of time when lithium batteries of both type becomes economically desirable. 

EV batteries are anywhere from 92% to like 96% recyclable.  On a Tesla anyway.

[racinfarmer]

24 minutes ago, BOHICA said:

Vestas have developed a solution to the problem.  Figure 3 years to scale it up.  Hopefully in 3-5 years they can consider digging these up and recycle them.  I think they should just pile them up so as recycling becomes a reality on industrial scale they will be able to build new blades out of the pile without much effort

https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/end-wind-power-waste-vestas-unveils-blade-recycling-technology-2021-05-17/

So we are going to use chemicals of God knows what creation to break down the blades, then further break down the resins?

Maybe the Devil we know is better then the one we don't?

[BOHICA]

2 minutes ago, racinfarmer said:

So we are going to use chemicals of God knows what creation to break down the blades, then further break down the resins?

Maybe the Devil we know is better then the one we don't?

If the chemicals are contained, reused, recycled themself not a big deal.

[ActionfigureJoe]

5 minutes ago, racinfarmer said:

So we are going to use chemicals of God knows what creation to break down the blades, then further break down the resins?

Maybe the Devil we know is better then the one we don't?

I'd rather have tons of spent nuclear reactor material with a 100,000 year half like filling up the desert.  

[Anler]

They can't grind it up and recycle it?

[BOHICA]

22 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

I'd rather have tons of spent nuclear reactor material with a 100,000 year half like filling up the desert.  

Nuke is fine, great tech that will get better with resources spent on it and developing it.  Complete spent fuel I think we should contract Elon to launch the used up stuff into the sun.  It’s running out of radioactive material every second.     Elon could likely dispose of it with his space program for a fraction of what it cost to store it for 10’s of thousands of years.

Edited September 22, 2021 by BOHICA

[irv]

1 hour ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

Texas should be ashamed. 

Your Dems and the whole global warming/climate change alarmists should be. 

5 minutes ago, Anler said:

They can't grind it up and recycle it? 

That's why it is being buried in the desert. 

Fiberglass is nearly impossible to recycle, yet we must be careful to handle it properly and not let its toxins collect in landfills. Fiberglass as we know it has been around since the early 1930s. It is a highly versatile product that can be made with virgin or recycled glass.Sep. 30, 2014

[BOHICA]

Just now, irv said:

Your Dems and the whole global warming/climate change alarmists should be. 

That's why it is being buried in the desert. 

Fiberglass is nearly impossible to recycle, yet we must be careful to handle it properly and not let its toxins collect in landfills. Fiberglass as we know it has been around since the early 1930s. It is a highly versatile product that can be made with virgin or recycled glass.Sep. 30, 2014

Vestas has the tech to recycle it.  Plans to scale it up and they will be able to resuse almost the the entire blade and make a new one.  

[BOHICA]

GE is grinding up blades with a partner and using it to replace reinforcement products in cement.

https://www.utilitydive.com/news/ge-announces-first-us-wind-turbine-blade-recycling-program-with-veolia/591869/

[BOHICA]

This company has a facility in Texas and Ohio.  Claim they can recycle 6-7000 blades a year if need be with just these two facilities….  They will take fiberglass boats as well and give them a second life in another product.

https://www.globalfiberglassinc.com/products

[ActionfigureJoe]

34 minutes ago, BOHICA said:

Nuke is fine, great tech that will get better with resources spent on it and developing it.  Complete spent fuel I think we should contract Elon to launch the used up stuff into the sun.  It’s running out of radioactive material every second.     Elon could likely dispose of it with his space program for a fraction of what it cost to store it for 10’s of thousands of years.

Of course. The point being that there’s no free lunch when it comes to energy production. The difference being that some forms of energy production is renewable and some isn’t 

[BOHICA]

3 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

Of course. The point being that there’s no free lunch when it comes to energy production. The difference being that some forms of energy production is renewable and some isn’t 

Also some forms of energy are reliable 24/7 producers and some are not.  Definitely need a combination. 

[Big Crappie]

1 hour ago, BOHICA said:

Nuke is fine, great tech that will get better with resources spent on it and developing it.  Complete spent fuel I think we should contract Elon to launch the used up stuff into the sun.  It’s running out of radioactive material every second.     Elon could likely dispose of it with his space program for a fraction of what it cost to store it for 10’s of thousands of years.

And when, not if one of these rockets carrying spent nuclear fuel blows up in the atmosphere?

[teamgreen02]

5 hours ago, BOHICA said:

GE is grinding up blades with a partner and using it to replace reinforcement products in cement.

https://www.utilitydive.com/news/ge-announces-first-us-wind-turbine-blade-recycling-program-with-veolia/591869/

This seems like a more practical solution than to try to separate all the raw materials and make new blades.  Recycling the mixture of resin with glass and carbon would be extremely difficult and expensive I would think.

[Highmark]

7 hours ago, BOHICA said:

Also some forms of energy are reliable 24/7 producers and some are not.  Definitely need a combination. 

Only one form of "green" energy is and that's hydro-electric.   While I'm not opposed to Nuclear I don't consider it green just because it doesn't release CO2.  

[racer254]

Nuclear is the best "bang for the buck" when it comes to energy, but because of the deceptive and misinformation, some people are just scared of something that will never negatively effect them.

[BOHICA]

8 hours ago, Big Crappie said:

And when, not if one of these rockets carrying spent nuclear fuel blows up in the atmosphere?

The world detonated plenty of nukes around the globe.  Would take like 40 Falcon Heavies to get rid of all our nuvlear waste generated in a year.  Just have Elon design a robust cargo capsule with some fail safes like he has on the dragon crew capsule in the event of a failure

[Highmark]

10 hours ago, BOHICA said:

This company has a facility in Texas and Ohio.  Claim they can recycle 6-7000 blades a year if need be with just these two facilities….  They will take fiberglass boats as well and give them a second life in another product.

https://www.globalfiberglassinc.com/products

Better be putting plants up all over.   Not exactly cheap transporting these blades. 

[Highmark]

31 minutes ago, racer254 said:

Nuclear is the best "bang for the buck" when it comes to energy, but because of the deceptive and misinformation, some people are just scared of something that will never negatively effect them.

Nuclear while safe is no different than wind farms.   Great as long as they are not near where you live.  

Edited September 22, 2021 by Highmark

[BOHICA]

2 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Better be putting plants up all over.   Not exactly cheap transporting these blades. 

Nope.  Maybe they can design an on-site grinder or chipper that you can fill a standard semi or at a rail yard to load rail cars with chipped product that can inexpensively haul the chipped up blades.

 

 

but there is definitely options to recycle blades and it expanding though.

rven buried though the blades aren’t toxic and are stable  unlike by products of day a coal power plant.

[racer254]

11 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Nuclear while safe is no different than wind farms.   Great as long as they are not near where you live.  

Wind farms take up 10x the amount of space that nuclear does.  There are less of a chance that you will live next to nuclear than a wind farm.