Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 22, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 22, 2021 Can't recycle the fiberglass blades so they bury them. Same issue with lithium batteries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Texas should be ashamed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted September 22, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) Vestas have developed a solution to the problem. Figure 3 years to scale it up. Hopefully in 3-5 years they can consider digging these up and recycle them. I think they should just pile them up so as recycling becomes a reality on industrial scale they will be able to build new blades out of the pile without much effort https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/end-wind-power-waste-vestas-unveils-blade-recycling-technology-2021-05-17/ Edited September 22, 2021 by BOHICA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Vestas have developed a solution to the problem. Figure 3 years to scale it up. Hopefully we can in 3-5 years they can consider digging these up and recycle them. I think they should just pile them up so as recycling becomes a reality on industrial scale they will be able to build new blades out of the pile. https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/end-wind-power-waste-vestas-unveils-blade-recycling-technology-2021-05-17/ It's but a matter of time when lithium batteries of both type becomes economically desirable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted September 22, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted September 22, 2021 Just now, ActionfigureJoe said: It's but a matter of time when lithium batteries of both type becomes economically desirable. EV batteries are anywhere from 92% to like 96% recyclable. On a Tesla anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 24 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Vestas have developed a solution to the problem. Figure 3 years to scale it up. Hopefully in 3-5 years they can consider digging these up and recycle them. I think they should just pile them up so as recycling becomes a reality on industrial scale they will be able to build new blades out of the pile without much effort https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/end-wind-power-waste-vestas-unveils-blade-recycling-technology-2021-05-17/ So we are going to use chemicals of God knows what creation to break down the blades, then further break down the resins? Maybe the Devil we know is better then the one we don't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted September 22, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, racinfarmer said: So we are going to use chemicals of God knows what creation to break down the blades, then further break down the resins? Maybe the Devil we know is better then the one we don't? If the chemicals are contained, reused, recycled themself not a big deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, racinfarmer said: So we are going to use chemicals of God knows what creation to break down the blades, then further break down the resins? Maybe the Devil we know is better then the one we don't? I'd rather have tons of spent nuclear reactor material with a 100,000 year half like filling up the desert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 They can't grind it up and recycle it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted September 22, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: I'd rather have tons of spent nuclear reactor material with a 100,000 year half like filling up the desert. Nuke is fine, great tech that will get better with resources spent on it and developing it. Complete spent fuel I think we should contract Elon to launch the used up stuff into the sun. It’s running out of radioactive material every second. Elon could likely dispose of it with his space program for a fraction of what it cost to store it for 10’s of thousands of years. Edited September 22, 2021 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Texas should be ashamed. Your Dems and the whole global warming/climate change alarmists should be. 5 minutes ago, Anler said: They can't grind it up and recycle it? That's why it is being buried in the desert. Fiberglass is nearly impossible to recycle, yet we must be careful to handle it properly and not let its toxins collect in landfills. Fiberglass as we know it has been around since the early 1930s. It is a highly versatile product that can be made with virgin or recycled glass.Sep. 30, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted September 22, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted September 22, 2021 Just now, irv said: Your Dems and the whole global warming/climate change alarmists should be. That's why it is being buried in the desert. Fiberglass is nearly impossible to recycle, yet we must be careful to handle it properly and not let its toxins collect in landfills. Fiberglass as we know it has been around since the early 1930s. It is a highly versatile product that can be made with virgin or recycled glass.Sep. 30, 2014 Vestas has the tech to recycle it. Plans to scale it up and they will be able to resuse almost the the entire blade and make a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted September 22, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted September 22, 2021 GE is grinding up blades with a partner and using it to replace reinforcement products in cement. https://www.utilitydive.com/news/ge-announces-first-us-wind-turbine-blade-recycling-program-with-veolia/591869/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted September 22, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted September 22, 2021 This company has a facility in Texas and Ohio. Claim they can recycle 6-7000 blades a year if need be with just these two facilities…. They will take fiberglass boats as well and give them a second life in another product. https://www.globalfiberglassinc.com/products Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 34 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Nuke is fine, great tech that will get better with resources spent on it and developing it. Complete spent fuel I think we should contract Elon to launch the used up stuff into the sun. It’s running out of radioactive material every second. Elon could likely dispose of it with his space program for a fraction of what it cost to store it for 10’s of thousands of years. Of course. The point being that there’s no free lunch when it comes to energy production. The difference being that some forms of energy production is renewable and some isn’t 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted September 22, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted September 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Of course. The point being that there’s no free lunch when it comes to energy production. The difference being that some forms of energy production is renewable and some isn’t Also some forms of energy are reliable 24/7 producers and some are not. Definitely need a combination. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Crappie Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, BOHICA said: Nuke is fine, great tech that will get better with resources spent on it and developing it. Complete spent fuel I think we should contract Elon to launch the used up stuff into the sun. It’s running out of radioactive material every second. Elon could likely dispose of it with his space program for a fraction of what it cost to store it for 10’s of thousands of years. And when, not if one of these rockets carrying spent nuclear fuel blows up in the atmosphere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamgreen02 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 5 hours ago, BOHICA said: GE is grinding up blades with a partner and using it to replace reinforcement products in cement. https://www.utilitydive.com/news/ge-announces-first-us-wind-turbine-blade-recycling-program-with-veolia/591869/ This seems like a more practical solution than to try to separate all the raw materials and make new blades. Recycling the mixture of resin with glass and carbon would be extremely difficult and expensive I would think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 22, 2021 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 22, 2021 7 hours ago, BOHICA said: Also some forms of energy are reliable 24/7 producers and some are not. Definitely need a combination. Only one form of "green" energy is and that's hydro-electric. While I'm not opposed to Nuclear I don't consider it green just because it doesn't release CO2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Nuclear is the best "bang for the buck" when it comes to energy, but because of the deceptive and misinformation, some people are just scared of something that will never negatively effect them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted September 22, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted September 22, 2021 8 hours ago, Big Crappie said: And when, not if one of these rockets carrying spent nuclear fuel blows up in the atmosphere? The world detonated plenty of nukes around the globe. Would take like 40 Falcon Heavies to get rid of all our nuvlear waste generated in a year. Just have Elon design a robust cargo capsule with some fail safes like he has on the dragon crew capsule in the event of a failure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 22, 2021 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 22, 2021 10 hours ago, BOHICA said: This company has a facility in Texas and Ohio. Claim they can recycle 6-7000 blades a year if need be with just these two facilities…. They will take fiberglass boats as well and give them a second life in another product. https://www.globalfiberglassinc.com/products Better be putting plants up all over. Not exactly cheap transporting these blades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 22, 2021 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, racer254 said: Nuclear is the best "bang for the buck" when it comes to energy, but because of the deceptive and misinformation, some people are just scared of something that will never negatively effect them. Nuclear while safe is no different than wind farms. Great as long as they are not near where you live. Edited September 22, 2021 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted September 22, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: Better be putting plants up all over. Not exactly cheap transporting these blades. Nope. Maybe they can design an on-site grinder or chipper that you can fill a standard semi or at a rail yard to load rail cars with chipped product that can inexpensively haul the chipped up blades. but there is definitely options to recycle blades and it expanding though. rven buried though the blades aren’t toxic and are stable unlike by products of day a coal power plant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, Highmark said: Nuclear while safe is no different than wind farms. Great as long as they are not near where you live. Wind farms take up 10x the amount of space that nuclear does. There are less of a chance that you will live next to nuclear than a wind farm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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