motonoggin Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: You the boss at your facility? Or have someone who dictates what needs to be done on a day to day basis..You know like a shift leader?? Asking for a friend.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 21, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 21, 2021 14 hours ago, akvanden said: Oh, well Steve Crowder.... No, that's not well documented at all. Vaccines don't kill off anti-bodies, they help create them. And no, it's not well documented that people who've had covid have terrible adverse reactions to the vaccine. Well considering there have been more deaths reported to VAERS in 9 months of the COVID vaccine than the previous 20 years combined I'd say there is something going on. Say what you want but if you had a loved one die within a few weeks of taking the vaccine the idea that its "worth the risk" would seem pretty weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted September 21, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, motonoggin said: Deflection noted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: Deflection noted Im not going to waste my time explaining the difference between a shift leader at work and a political leader if you aren't already smart enough to know the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bontz Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 I see "memenoggin" is hard at it again 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted September 21, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Im not going to waste my time explaining the difference between a shift leader at work and a political leader if you aren't already smart enough to know the difference. Deflection noted, go back to spending an hour finding and posting memes nobody reads..That's a much better use of your valuable time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Highmark said: Well considering there have been more deaths reported to VAERS in 9 months of the COVID vaccine than the previous 20 years combined I'd say there is something going on. Say what you want but if you had a loved one die within a few weeks of taking the vaccine the idea that its "worth the risk" would seem pretty weak. Well, as shitty as that would be, it’s a good thing policy and official recommendations are made based on aggregated data and not on anecdotal evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: Deflection noted, go back to spending an hour finding and posting memes nobody reads..That's a much better use of your valuable time I don't have the skills required to be a special ed teacher, which is clearly what most of you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 too bad many have to die or suffer serious med issues to get the natural vax vs taking a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 2 hours ago, motonoggin said: Sorry Dan your memes have gotten really flaccid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 21, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, akvanden said: Well, as shitty as that would be, it’s a good thing policy and official recommendations are made based on aggregated data and not on anecdotal evidence. So VAERS is anecdotal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted September 21, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, motonoggin said: I don't have the skills required to be a special ed teacher, which is clearly what most of you need. Deflection noted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 11 hours ago, akvanden said: Sarcasm is 75% of your response style! And my opinion falls inline with whatever the scientific answer is. Sorry, I know that’s a rather boring answer. 75% is way high. There’s a difference between a response/reply and an answer. I can answer questions on my stated thoughts and opinions and debate them. So, you get a big thumbs up for the MC styled, “I know you are but what am I” when asked a question. This isn’t good. Now, on your “the science is settled and I say what they say”. Eeeesh. This is bad. I don’t even know where to begin here. Now, go wake MC up. He needs his Malt-O-Meal and a diaper change. Kiss him softly when you wake him, you know he likes that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, Highmark said: So VAERS is anecdotal? The boy is struggling. I told him when he first arrived that this “I’m the smartest person here” shit doesn’t really turn out well. Still, I find his posts adorable. He’s like Bambi in the woods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 10 hours ago, motonoggin said: Imagine thinking people need leaders. They absolutely do and always have….and always will. This isn’t good or bad. Well, maybe more bad I guess. BTW, “political leadership” is an oxymoron and probably to your point more: if people look to politicians for their leadership, they truly are imbeciles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 3 hours ago, motonoggin said: You need to believe I am a Democrat so you can justify your continued participation in bourgeois electoralism. Lmao. You know who a communist's most predictable and reliable ally is? The same bourgeois system that made you ( but not your employees ) rich? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Highmark said: So VAERS is anecdotal? No, your example was anecdotal. Vaers is a piece of the overall 212 million doses given on the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Zambroski said: 75% is way high. There’s a difference between a response/reply and an answer. I can answer questions on my stated thoughts and opinions and debate them. So, you get a big thumbs up for the MC styled, “I know you are but what am I” when asked a question. This isn’t good. Now, on your “the science is settled and I say what they say”. Eeeesh. This is bad. I don’t even know where to begin here. Now, go wake MC up. He needs his Malt-O-Meal and a diaper change. Kiss him softly when you wake him, you know he likes that. Thank you for the constructive feedback. Virus transmissibility is measurable. What’s the argument on it (Other than I didn’t provide a personal opinion)? Its like asking if I think the earths gravity is “strong,” to which my reply would be: relative to what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 21, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, akvanden said: No, your example was anecdotal. Vaers is a piece of the overall 212 million doses given on the US. As is giving mortality rates based off only those that have a positive test when we know 6-10 times more people actually had the virus and simply were not sick at all or enough to even get tested. On top of that we were adding in anyone who passed who once had COVID as a COVID death. Even car crashes and people already dying from Cancer in Hospice care. The manipulation of the numbers was just wrong. Shit you have to admit just that. Edited September 21, 2021 by Highmark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag6240 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Highmark said: As is giving mortality rates based off only those that have a positive test when we know 6-10 times more people actually had the virus and simply were not sick at all or enough to even get tested. This is the part we cannot measure. With all the "free" testing we are doing to identify someone who is "Sick" with Covid, why can't we have a free test to see if we have those natural immunities? If I want to see if I've been exposed, and have anti-bodies, around here anyway, it is a $120 test! Just imagine if we could get that test for free, BEFORE we get sick, to help make a better informed decision about taking a jab.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 29 minutes ago, akvanden said: Thank you for the constructive feedback. Virus transmissibility is measurable. What’s the argument on it (Other than I didn’t provide a personal opinion)? Its like asking if I think the earths gravity is “strong,” to which my reply would be: relative to what? For somebody that apparently just “agrees with what science tells you”, I find it odd you don’t have an answer for such a simple question. Here, let’s try it again: Do you think the Covid is highly contagious? Quck edit: I realized that a person of your particular intellect may not understand that this is a simple closed ended question. I simply expect a “yes” or a “no”. If you want to do some type of rating scale along with your answer, like 1-10, I am happy to accept that also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Zambroski said: For somebody that apparently just “agrees with what science tells you”, I find it odd you don’t have an answer for such a simple question. Here, let’s try it again: Do you think the Covid is highly contagious? Relative to what? edit: sorry, I couldn’t help myself. No, I don’t think it’s “highly,” whatever highly means in my mind. If in my mind it was highly, I would wear a mask at all times regardless of settings, nor would I have been at the hay days super spreader event with Ezra last weekend. Edited September 21, 2021 by akvanden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Did anyone not already know that natural immunity is best? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 21, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Mag6240 said: This is the part we cannot measure. With all the "free" testing we are doing to identify someone who is "Sick" with Covid, why can't we have a free test to see if we have those natural immunities? If I want to see if I've been exposed, and have anti-bodies, around here anyway, it is a $120 test! Just imagine if we could get that test for free, BEFORE we get sick, to help make a better informed decision about taking a jab.... Look how the CDC calculates influenza. Based off actual tests and models to predict how many had it. We didn't do that for COVID because we wanted to scare people. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/how-cdc-estimates.htm Edited September 21, 2021 by Highmark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 38 minutes ago, akvanden said: Relative to what? edit: sorry, I couldn’t help myself. No, I don’t think it’s “highly,” whatever highly means in my mind. If in my mind it was highly, I would wear a mask at all times regardless of settings, nor would I have been at the hay days super spreader event with Ezra last weekend. You know, it really wasn’t a trick question. The fact you skated around it for so long speaks to your confidence in this whole vaccination debate. Now, what does “highly contagious” mean in your mind? Now I’m curious as to your thought process. Please don’t post a link. You do have some thoughts of your own by now, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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