ActionfigureJoe Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/09/03/business/gm-plant-closings-chip-shortage/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadaBing444 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 You won’t see normal vehicle production till 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Like this is just a GM thing or? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenom Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 I was on a GM lot and a Ford lot looking at cargo vans and the lots were bare. As I drove through the sales people were looking at my truck and drooling… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted September 5, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) I think dealers and manufactures have learned an important lesson from this and will adopt hybrid model of what Tesla does.…. Put a few high end models on the lot at a premium price for the got to have it now and those that don’t want all the bells and whistles can order what they want at msrp. dealers and manufactures are making so much money currently and would be stupid to go back to the pre pandemic model. Edited September 5, 2021 by BOHICA 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 3 hours ago, BadaBing444 said: You won’t see normal vehicle production till 2023. Hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted September 5, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted September 5, 2021 I'm glad I kept my old 800r when I snochecked the new XCR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 As Cars Go Electric, China Builds a Big Lead in Factories. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/04/business/china-electric-cars.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snatchslayer Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 About a month and a half ago I went to town looking at new and used suvs and trucks. The Chevrolet, Ford and Chrysler dealers lots were almost empty. Both new and used. Couldn't believe it, never saw that before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 I think it's great. It will make the manufacturers bring back parts production in North America. BTW, lets not forget about that big CASH FOR CLUNKERS deal that Obama had. How many used cars did that take off the market. And most people thought that was a bad idea, because we all realized what it was going to cause in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 My next door boat neighbor owns a Chevy dealership, and told me recently they had 12 cars in stock. Normally would be hundreds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 1 hour ago, DriftBusta said: My next door boat neighbor owns a Chevy dealership, and told me recently they had 12 cars in stock. Normally would be hundreds. It weird seeing all the empty lots around here. Say bye bye to big rebates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag6240 Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 Not directly related, but close. Ordered another set of tires for the car last night, and they are about $50 more EACH than this time last year. The ride continues.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkipinki Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 It's just more of the same. They are shutting down for a few weeks until they get some supples/chips/inventory in, this is happening pretty much everywhere. I tell my the folks on my Polaris RZR group, easy on those parts if driving hard, might be awhile before you get replacements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted September 7, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 7, 2021 2 hours ago, racer254 said: I think it's great. It will make the manufacturers bring back parts production in North America. BTW, lets not forget about that big CASH FOR CLUNKERS deal that Obama had. How many used cars did that take off the market. And most people thought that was a bad idea, because we all realized what it was going to cause in the future. Yes racer cash for clunkers is the reason for new vehicle inventories being basically non existent…FFS you’re a dolt.🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 16 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Yes racer cash for clunkers is the reason for new vehicle inventories being basically non existent…FFS you’re a dolt.🤣 i am sure pos from the early 00's and 90's would solve our current issues for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 54 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Yes racer cash for clunkers is the reason for new vehicle inventories being basically non existent…FFS you’re a dolt.🤣 It didn't help. The majority of vehicles traded in the Cash for Clunkers program were trucks, at 84% of total vehicles traded. 677,000 vehicles total. Do the math and tell me what vehicles are currently in demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, racer254 said: It didn't help. The majority of vehicles traded in the Cash for Clunkers program were trucks, at 84% of total vehicles traded. 677,000 vehicles total. Do the math and tell me what vehicles are currently in demand. they were vehicles that would have been mostly rotted out and retired at this point. If people still wanted to drive old shit there would not be a shortage of new right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted September 7, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 7, 2021 18 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: they were vehicles that would have been mostly rotted out and retired at this point. If people still wanted to drive old shit there would not be a shortage of new right now. Pffft…it’s all Obama’s fault.🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: they were vehicles that would have been mostly rotted out and retired at this point. If people still wanted to drive old shit there would not be a shortage of new right now. Anytime you take 677,000 running vehicles out of the market, it will eventually have an effect. 25% of vehicles on the road today are at least 16 years old. The average age of an auto is 12.1 years. Cash for clunkers was in 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 35 minutes ago, racer254 said: Anytime you take 677,000 running vehicles out of the market, it will eventually have an effect. 25% of vehicles on the road today are at least 16 years old. The average age of an auto is 12.1 years. Cash for clunkers was in 2009. in 2009 for vehicles that were already used up at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 They are running out of places to park new cars and trucks waiting on chips. Im surprised they didn’t stop sooner. The lots are going to be overflowing with 21’s. Most people don’t need new vehicles anyway. Maybe the public will get smart and not buy a new car every 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 9 hours ago, Angry ginger said: in 2009 for vehicles that were already used up at that point. Yep,they gave 3k for a hunk of shit. Nobody was trading in quality vehicles for that program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 10 hours ago, racer254 said: Anytime you take 677,000 running vehicles out of the market, it will eventually have an effect. 25% of vehicles on the road today are at least 16 years old. The average age of an auto is 12.1 years. Cash for clunkers was in 2009. They didn’t have to be running,just registered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 On 9/4/2021 at 8:48 PM, ActionfigureJoe said: Hopefully. Fuck that I want to see the Manu making dealers buy more than they can sell again . I don't give 2 fucks about color and shit . I want the lots full of non currents with huge discounts . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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