SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 7 hours ago, Tommcat said: Boost covers up bad gear choices pretty nicely....just sayin. And clutching. Can’t believe you wasted all that money on a track dyno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommcat Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 4 hours ago, SayatodaU.P.eh? said: And clutching. Can’t believe you wasted all that money on a track dyno. i dont have a track dyno, yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 6 hours ago, Tommcat said: i dont have a track dyno, yet Some of these guys swear by a formula that can help you out. Something about drive ratios/lug height. I think you can do it backwards and come up with the engine torque also! I mean….It’s an impressive theory for sure. I know Ricky must use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Some of these guys swear by a formula that can help you out. Something about drive ratios/lug height. I think you can do it backwards and come up with the engine torque also! I mean….It’s an impressive theory for sure. I know Ricky must use it. The manufacturers use formulas which are obviously all wrong. Especially springs, the clutch springs and torsion springs are always wrong!!! Don't even get me started on the coil springs and the throttle return spring. Edited October 13, 2021 by Crnr2Crnr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: The manufacturers use formulas which are obviously all wrong. Especially springs, the clutch springs and torsion springs are always wrong!!! Don't even get me started on the coil springs and the throttle return spring. 1.47 MB · 0 downloads Thats why I said, and everybody says…get out there and fucking ride it FIRST!!! Then decide what you would like it to do better. The question is, can I follow that advice or, is the “throttle return spring” in need of a swap out before the snow flies? I think they are color coded now according to spring return rates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: Thats why I said, and everybody says…get out there and fucking ride it FIRST!!! Then decide what you would like it to do better. The question is, can I follow that advice or, is the “throttle return spring” in need of a swap out before the snow flies? I think they are color coded now according to spring return rates? Get in touch with @fortune46x He knows all the Cat throttle return spring rates from working with the throttle limited sleds the kids race. I'd bet he can hook you up with a Culver's Blue spring. What I did on the 500 was to put in the lightest spring I could find and slightly bend the right side of the handlebar to get that extra throw on the flipper. Good for 3hp on the ass Dyno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: Get in touch with @fortune46x He knows all the Cat throttle return spring rates from working with the throttle limited sleds the kids race. I'd bet he can hook you up with a Culver's Blue spring. What I did on the 500 was to put in the lightest spring I could find and slightly bend the right side of the handlebar to get that extra throw on the flipper. Good for 3hp on the ass Dyno Thats quality tuning right there! @Tommcat…you paying attention here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share Posted October 13, 2021 20 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Thats quality tuning right there! @Tommcat…you paying attention here? Mine goes to eleven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 26 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Thats quality tuning right there! @Tommcat…you paying attention here? He don’t fuckin care. He still changes clutching when he mods sleds. Doesn’t even know the one and done deal. Idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, SayatodaU.P.eh? said: He don’t fuckin care. He still changes clutching when he mods sleds. Doesn’t even know the one and done deal. Idiot. Shame. Where Have all the tuning heroes gone? Where is “Alsled” when you need him!!?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Zambroski said: Shame. Where Have all the tuning heroes gone? Where is “Alsled” when you need him!!?!?! Lord knows that with a sorry assed setup like this, I just can’t compete with that Alsled dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 42 minutes ago, SayatodaU.P.eh? said: Lord knows that with a sorry assed setup like this, I just can’t compete with that Alsled dude. No adjustable wrenches? Well….bush league! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 I purchased a track dyno today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 16 hours ago, SayatodaU.P.eh? said: Oh as far as gearing yeah, I’ve played that game before but driver size and tooth count? I know a couple of buddies of mine that both had heavily modded Firecats (1000 and 1200 on spray back in the day before turbo sleds) use to play with driver size a little but I never really asked why they were doing it. 22/41 should be about perfect for the Indy. I do need to get some good speedworkx clutch springs and a fresh belt coming soon though. I’ll do all of that during the track swap. I loath no other part replacement, on a snowmobile, than fucking track clips. Installing studs is a close second. 80 clips to remove and 80 to install, 40 studs, and probably a bunch of other fun shit I'm forgetting. Plus a Enticer front arm to fab up. 1 hour ago, SayatodaU.P.eh? said: Lord knows that with a sorry assed setup like this, I just can’t compete with that Alsled dude. Too much Fapp-Off for my liking. 1 hour ago, Zambroski said: No adjustable wrenches? Well….bush league! We used to call them the Mexican Tool Chest back in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommcat Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 4 hours ago, Zambroski said: Thats quality tuning right there! @Tommcat…you paying attention here? The culvers blue spring is worthless. It doesn't have anywhere near enough pressure to run in the iron dog when a polar bear is chasing you. Everyone knows that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommcat Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Zambroski said: No adjustable wrenches? Well….bush league! One size strips all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 You guys are all missing the boat with clutch kits. There's a place out of New Hampshire that has a single clutch kit that fits all. From water cross to the Iron Dog. 200 ft run to 2 miles. Stock or full blown modified. Yup one kit works in all theses applications and has never lost. Don't even matter what brand of sled. It works. He has Proof just let him tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 9 hours ago, racinfarmer said: 80 clips to remove and 80 to install, 40 studs, and probably a bunch of other fun shit I'm forgetting. Plus a Enticer front arm to fab up. Too much Fapp-Off for my liking. We used to call them the Mexican Tool Chest back in the day. If you legit have an issue with Snap-On, other than their price, you’re just being a bitch. Sure, they do make some junk but I would say that 95% of their hand tools are some of the best in the business. Yes they are expensive and no you don’t NEED them to do a job. I bought my initial set 25 years ago. These days, I only buy certain things from them. If you want to show any possible disgust about that picture, it should be for all of those Gearwrenches. Arguably the best ratcheting wrench in the business, imo, and ALL of the wrenches pictured there were bought brand new, in the package, for $85 shipped to my door. One of Bazos’ idiots probably lost their job over that deal because I can’t even begin to believe that I was the only one that saw that listing. Should’ve bought 3 sets instead of just two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune46x Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 5 hours ago, Doug said: You guys are all missing the boat with clutch kits. There's a place out of New Hampshire that has a single clutch kit that fits all. From water cross to the Iron Dog. 200 ft run to 2 miles. Stock or full blown modified. Yup one kit works in all theses applications and has never lost. Don't even matter what brand of sled. It works. He has Proof just let him tell you. You forgot avoiding polar bears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune46x Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 So this happened today... neat. Guess I am getting another cat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 38 minutes ago, fortune46x said: So this happened today... neat. Guess I am getting another cat. But you don't race... Well, there's the occasional full charge to the closest toilet. Congrats you Bastard 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 1 hour ago, fortune46x said: So this happened today... neat. Guess I am getting another cat. Nice! I just picked these up. Fresh black PC! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 50 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Nice! I just picked these up. Fresh black PC! Where's the 12" bar riser? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Crnr2Crnr said: Where's the 12" bar riser? The same place this 5.5 will be….collecting dust in a drawer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 4 hours ago, fortune46x said: So this happened today... neat. Guess I am getting another cat. How much will Wes have to pay, to rent that from you when he comes to race in the Midwest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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