1jkw Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, racer254 said: Reagan gave us the economy of the 80s and 90's Trump was on pace to give us another 20 year boom. But, intellectual elites couldn't allow that. Huge deficit spending and debt fueled both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 minute ago, 1jkw said: Huge deficit spending and debt fueled both. No one in Washington seems concerned debts or deficits, including Biden. Its a wash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Just now, DriftBusta said: No one in Washington seems concerned debts or deficits, including Biden. Its a wash. Well the republicans seem concerned now. Biden isn't, and never was or will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, 1jkw said: Well the republicans seem concerned now. Biden isn't, and never was or will be. No they don't, it is just what you are being told. If we are going to have huge debt and deficits, at least with republicans we have cheap energy and a booming economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 26 minutes ago, racer254 said: No they don't, it is just what you are being told. If we are going to have huge debt and deficits, at least with republicans we have cheap energy and a booming economy. Trump inherited 4.8% UE rate, low energy costs, the longest bull market in history, record emerging markets, and out spent Obama's last 4 years in office in 3, prior to the pandemic. Energy cost more in every year Trump was in office prior to the pandemic, than 2015 2016, those are facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 minute ago, 1jkw said: Trump inherited 4.8% UE rate, low energy costs, the longest bull market in history, record emerging markets, and out spent Obama's last 4 years in office in 3, prior to the pandemic. Energy cost more in every year Trump was in office prior to the pandemic, than 2015 2016, those are facts. Trumps economic numbers(prior to covid) looked very similar to Obamas so those who think dems economies are worse than pubs just because of the party in charge are morons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Anler Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Snake said: 4 out of 5 driver candidates quit last month because of the work. That's a shot at $40 an hour and all the bennies you can stand... but nah. You think the availability of MORE jobs is going to make a difference? The liberals have their dependent class and they won't give them up. yeah I dont get it. These are good jobs with good benefits. Cut off the unemployment and people will probably change their minds. Maybe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: Trumps economic numbers(prior to covid) looked very similar to Obamas so those who think dems economies are worse than pubs just because of the party in charge are morons Each party's policies effect the prices of energy. Edited April 27, 2021 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 14 minutes ago, Anler said: yeah I dont get it. These are good jobs with good benefits. Cut off the unemployment and people will probably change their minds. Maybe... The fact that for a year people have been able to collect without actually looking for a job while there is thousands open is fucking crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Just now, Angry ginger said: The fact that for a year people have been able to collect without actually looking for a job while there is thousands open is fucking crazy. Just need to look back at the Obama admin. When they finally cut off the unemployment extensions the rate of unemployment went down in a hurry. Hmmm, what a coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Anler said: yeah I dont get it. These are good jobs with good benefits. Cut off the unemployment and people will probably change their minds. Maybe... "Maybe" is right. This little entitlement is being pressed for continuance. Again, as we all know, entitlements once started, are very hard to take away. 1 hour ago, Angry ginger said: The fact that for a year people have been able to collect without actually looking for a job while there is thousands open is fucking crazy. Crazy? Hmmm...it's an economy killer. 1 hour ago, Edmo said: Just need to look back at the Obama admin. When they finally cut off the unemployment extensions the rate of unemployment went down in a hurry. Hmmm, what a coincidence. We're gonna see riots in the streets when this covid scare disappears and people are forced to go back to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 hour ago, racer254 said: Each party's policies effect the prices of energy. Yes, remember peak oil? Electric cars, wind , solar,and NG fired electric generation, all cut the demand for oil. Do you know what happens when you lessen demand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) 50 minutes ago, 1jkw said: Yes, remember peak oil? Electric cars, wind , solar,and NG fired electric generation, all cut the demand for oil. Do you know what happens when you lessen demand? Wind turbines are oil free? Nope, do you have anything facts or articles that proves that the demand for oil has lessened at all due to any of the 4 factors you listed? https://www.power-eng.com/renewables/wind/proper-lubrication-is-key-to-wind-turbine-longevity/#gref It’s almost an understatement to say that lubrication issues reach a level of complexity almost a magnitude of order greater than in a conventional fossil-fired generating unit. Edited April 27, 2021 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 hour ago, racer254 said: Wind turbines are oil free? Nope, do you have anything facts or articles that proves that the demand for oil has lessened at all due to any of the 4 factors you listed? https://www.power-eng.com/renewables/wind/proper-lubrication-is-key-to-wind-turbine-longevity/#gref It’s almost an understatement to say that lubrication issues reach a level of complexity almost a magnitude of order greater than in a conventional fossil-fired generating unit. Never said oil free. Did I? Even someone as dumb as you has to realize that all 4, do cut oil dependence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted April 27, 2021 Author Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 hour ago, 1jkw said: Never said oil free. Did I? Even someone as dumb as you has to realize that all 4, do cut oil dependence. As does a worldwide pandemic. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 You are destined for the greatest economic recovery since the Depression and the most heinous Tax and Social Benefit Anniholation since Communism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 4 hours ago, Mainecat said: As does a worldwide pandemic. Just STFU! You ignorant hack🖕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 10 hours ago, racer254 said: Do you know what trend lines are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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