Doug Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 In 1982 the 4 manufactures were asked "Does snowmobile drag racing have as much appeal to the manufactures as it seems to have for the competitors". Looking back 39 years the answers are interesting. The 4 manufactures in 1982 were Polaris, Yamaha, Ski-Doo and John Deere. Notice anybody missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snatchslayer Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 M John deere not into it but cat not even mentioned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 First sled I bought was an 81 440 liquifire . Cool article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommcat Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 3 hours ago, HSR said: First sled I bought was an 81 440 liquifire . Cool article Great sled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Arctic Cat was out of business in 1982 genius 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Tommcat said: Great sled Kawasaki bottom end John Deere designed top end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 What effect does drag racing have on them today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball 440 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 52 minutes ago, racinfarmer said: What effect does drag racing have on them today? Well the Z is built specifically for drag so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 17 hours ago, Crotch Lickmeoff said: cat not even mentioned 12 hours ago, mnstang said: Arctic Cat was out of business in 1982 genius yup http://www.arcticinsider.com/Article/The-Hunt-for-1982-Arctic-Cat-Snowmobiles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Fireball 440 said: Well the Z is built specifically for drag so... The new Mach-Z? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 I was thinking Jag Z. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball 440 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 20 minutes ago, racinfarmer said: The new Mach-Z? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 I remember a life without many groomed trails where top speeds were touted as being king...and they were. Much of my riding in my early years were on lakes. I remember us having to break cattails on the shoreline to create our own little trails and tracks. Ughhh. what a mess. Hard to believe how much this sport has grown from a performance standpoint. If I had to go back to riding lakes and rail beds, I'd quit it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 28 minutes ago, Fireball 440 said: Yes. I'd debate that one. Is it their answer to the Thundercat/Sidewinder? Yes. Is it targeting the drag racing market? Doubtful. 9 minutes ago, Zambroski said: I remember a life without many groomed trails where top speeds were touted as being king...and they were. Much of my riding in my early years were on lakes. I remember us having to break cattails on the shoreline to create our own little trails and tracks. Ughhh. what a mess. Hard to believe how much this sport has grown from a performance standpoint. If I had to go back to riding lakes and rail beds, I'd quit it. Riding is what you make of it. If we wanted to ride locally here, the lake was pretty much the only choice except one 15 mile stretch of rail grade that was off the side of it 1/2 the time just to get into any snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 hour ago, racinfarmer said: I'd debate that one. Is it their answer to the Thundercat/Sidewinder? Yes. Is it targeting the drag racing market? Doubtful. Riding is what you make of it. If we wanted to ride locally here, the lake was pretty much the only choice except one 15 mile stretch of rail grade that was off the side of it 1/2 the time just to get into any snow. Every area is different...like it's own sled cultures. Long rail beds, lakes, fields and 16 wide groomed trail superhighways demand by cc's and that's what I'd own if I lived in that area I guess. i love the arrowhead of MN. You can ride whatever you want and find plenty of places to ride your metal of choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball 440 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, racinfarmer said: I'd debate that one. Is it their answer to the Thundercat/Sidewinder? Yes. Is it targeting the drag racing market? Doubtful. Riding is what you make of it. If we wanted to ride locally here, the lake was pretty much the only choice except one 15 mile stretch of rail grade that was off the side of it 1/2 the time just to get into any snow. It has launch control and lower suspension for no other reason then drag racing. Skidoos own marketing supports this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, Fireball 440 said: It has launch control and lower suspension for no other reason then drag racing. Skidoos own marketing supports this. I have to admit ignorance about it since it is a sled I really do not care about and will not own. Drag racing on the lakes, I guess. That died off here 20 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball 440 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 minute ago, racinfarmer said: I have to admit ignorance about it since it is a sled I really do not care about and will not own. Drag racing on the lakes, I guess. That died off here 20 years ago. Last radar run here was 20 years ago also but with the hyper sleds it seems it's still a thing. I haven't raced a sled in over 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 Here's some pics of a radar run our club had back in the late 80's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 48 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Every area is different...like it's own sled cultures. Long rail beds, lakes, fields and 16 wide groomed trail superhighways demand by cc's and that's what I'd own if I lived in that area I guess. i love the arrowhead of MN. You can ride whatever you want and find plenty of places to ride your metal of choice. when I was a kid in the 70's & early 80's 70% of what we rode on was not groomed trails, because back then people that owned farm land, woods were cool about letting us make our own single track trails. a big excursion for us was making trail along the railroad bed which was still in operation, under the power lines as far as we could get and in the ditches from one buddies house to the other... and on roads riding sleds with hardly any suspension. marked trail riding was fairly limited for our group and only the kids whose parents had trailers and the financial means went riding up north. totally different world we're living in today. anyone else remember the Snow Goer shootout back in those times? I always loved how the John Deere Liquifire would get clobbered on the lake and kick the V-Max, Formula Plus and Indy's asses in the woods. then JD died, along with other great brands like Kawasaki, Scorpion and Merc. christ, I'm old. wouldn't take any of those times back but the modern iron from all brands is all 1000X better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Crnr2Crnr said: when I was a kid in the 70's & early 80's 70% of what we rode on was not groomed trails, because back then people that owned farm land, woods were cool about letting us make our own single track trails. a big excursion for us was making trail along the railroad bed which was still in operation, under the power lines as far as we could get and in the ditches from one buddies house to the other... and on roads riding sleds with hardly any suspension. marked trail riding was fairly limited for our group and only the kids whose parents had trailers and the financial means went riding up north. totally different world we're living in today. anyone else remember the Snow Goer shootout back in those times? I always loved how the John Deere Liquifire would get clobbered on the lake and kick the V-Max, Formula Plus and Indy's asses in the woods. then JD died, along with other great brands like Kawasaki, Scorpion and Merc. christ, I'm old. wouldn't take any of those times back but the modern iron from all brands is all 1000X better. I honestly don't remember any "groomed" trails at all in my area. I think grooming was only being done up on the north shore. I was down by Minneapolis and rode primarily on Lake Minnetonka and the surrounding area. Whatever "trails" there were just went from lake to lake or, ditches. Yeah, back in those days, it was a whole different game on the "shoot outs". There were also a lot of different brands. My old man went Yamaha and wouldn't allow anything else in his barn. I remember trying to buy a buds Poo Indy 500 and he told me i could park it out on the lake. LOL. One of my favs was a buddies sled. A kawi invader. Just sharp and fast as fuck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Zambroski said: I honestly don't remember any "groomed" trails at all in my area. I think grooming was only being done up on the north shore. I was down by Minneapolis and rode primarily on Lake Minnetonka and the surrounding area. Whatever "trails" there were just went from lake to lake or, ditches. Yeah, back in those days, it was a whole different game on the "shoot outs". There were also a lot of different brands. My old man went Yamaha and wouldn't allow anything else in his barn. I remember trying to buy a buds Poo Indy 500 and he told me i could park it out on the lake. LOL. One of my favs was a buddies sled. A kawi invader. Just sharp and fast as fuck. I'd rock an old Interceptor, them and the original SRX/Vmax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 That old Ford is sick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Crnr2Crnr said: I'd rock an old Interceptor, them and the original SRX/Vmax My second sled I bought on my own was a SRV, Daddy wouldn't let me have a vmax. I'd love a chance to throw a leg over either just to remember what they were. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 That track makes me hungry for a Wendy's frosty...and fries! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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