ActionfigureJoe Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 https://www.google.com/amp/s/madison.com/business/sticker-shock-wisconsin-customers-seeing-big-gas-bills-after-winter-storm-crippled-texas/article_6974aaff-b417-5fe1-8513-f961483b6f3a.amp.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 It is all bullshit . Wi and MN both have huge nat gas lines running from Canada. None of our nat gas comes from TX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mainecat Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 30 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: It is all bullshit . Wi and MN both have huge nat gas lines running from Canada. None of our nat gas comes from TX. Do you read what you type? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Stephen Hawking Posted March 20, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted March 20, 2021 Amazingly well written and concise article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted March 20, 2021 Author Share Posted March 20, 2021 According to the article my gas bill will go down. Good news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bontz Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Are any of you stupid troll/morons capable of actually pasting an article instead of a fucking link? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Odd how all fuel prices go up because of a shortage but you still can buy whatever amount you want. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSR Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 38 minutes ago, Bontz said: Are any of you stupid troll/morons capable of actually pasting an article instead of a fucking link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted March 21, 2021 Author Share Posted March 21, 2021 56 minutes ago, Bontz said: Are any of you stupid troll/morons capable of actually pasting an article instead of a fucking link? Go fuck yourself. If you don’t like it then don’t read it. Better yet, I’ll post the link and you can copy and paste the article for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Crappie Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 25 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: Odd how all fuel prices go up because of a shortage but you still can buy whatever amount you want. shortage isn't the correct word. Lower inventories vs expected demand is driving prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bontz Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 I'm not gonna click some link because you're too stupid to actually paste the article for us to read, you fucking troll. Now go sit on your tampon and fuck YOURSELF. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Crappie Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Bontz said: Are any of you stupid troll/morons capable of actually pasting an article instead of a fucking link? I prefer a link. Goes to the source, I can decide if I want to see it and if you quote the person you don't fill up the page with the article again. Pretty damn easy for a moron like me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, Big Crappie said: I prefer a link. Goes to the source, I can decide if I want to see it and if you quote the person you don't fill up the page with the article again. Pretty damn easy for a moron like me. Same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, Big Crappie said: shortage isn't the correct word. Lower inventories vs expected demand is driving prices. Again all bullshit . A 3 day spike is not depleting any up the reserves . We are not fracking as we use it . Just a excuse to fuck the end user Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted March 21, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted March 21, 2021 I’ve been kicking around the idea of a heat pump to replace central air and a heat pump hot water heater... would lessen my reliance on gas for hot water and winter heat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, BOHICA said: I’ve been kicking around the idea of a heat pump to replace central air and a heat pump hot water heater... would lessen my reliance on gas for hot water and winter heat. Got one for my sun room. Very happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted March 21, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted March 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Got one for my sun room. Very happy. My furnace is pretty high efficiency but if I had a heat pump with the majority of heating until the coldest days and have the natural gas furnace kick on for those uber cold days. In the garage a heat pump water heater would also give a bit of air conditioner effect from what I read which would be nice. I got room for more solar so I could make my heating and cooling damn near free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Crappie Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: Again all bullshit . A 3 day spike is not depleting any up the reserves . We are not fracking as we use it . Just a excuse to fuck the end user reserves were already low because of winter. We draw down all winter and replenish all summer. The sudden surge in the south caused increased demand therefor higher prices for a while. Edited March 21, 2021 by Big Crappie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Mainecat said: Do you read what you type? Says the dumbfuck that reposts du underground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 23 minutes ago, Big Crappie said: reserves were already low because of winter. We draw down all winter and replenish all summer. The sudden surge in the south caused increased demand therefor higher prices for a while. Again just a excuse to gouge every one . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted March 21, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Bontz said: Are any of you stupid troll/morons capable of actually pasting an article instead of a fucking link? It's his schtick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
favoritos Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 15 hours ago, BOHICA said: My furnace is pretty high efficiency but if I had a heat pump with the majority of heating until the coldest days and have the natural gas furnace kick on for those uber cold days. In the garage a heat pump water heater would also give a bit of air conditioner effect from what I read which would be nice. I got room for more solar so I could make my heating and cooling damn near free. It would take a butt load of solar to power a high draw heat pump. We have dual source heating with gas furnace and a heat pump run off a ground loop. The heat pump can do the job, but it has high draw demand at the edge especially when starting. (Scroll ramp up compressors help cut some peak draw.) There isn't a magic bullet to fully cover all the living conveniences we have in modern homes. (Unless you really want to spend some money) A well designed generator system that kicks in for high demand pull might get you a better value. It can also be your backup source to offset peak power pricing. We just don't have many plug and play options for the residential consumer. Changing consumer habits is a hard sell option, but it would be the most cost effective. Leveling out demand makes most of the problems negligible. Consistent supply is easier and cheaper to build too. Unfortunately, I can't see consumers buying the idea on a widespread scale. There is plenty of bla bla bla coming out the mouths of people that are gung ho on green power. I can't see them turning off the goodies when it would be effective for the system to work. Talk is cheap, reality is expensive. Reliance on any single source or system for comfort is prone to the pitfalls of that source. We are headed in that direction with electricity and NG being tied together. Chop some holes in that supply chain and things get real ugly. Add in the need to back up wind and solar and the system shows some big pitfalls. The problems in Texas were a sign. Sadly, their failure is adding to our bills. This is not the last time we will see this scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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