Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted March 19, 2021 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 minute ago, BOHICA said: No they won’t... I could go buy a corvette or a multitude of vehicles off of the showroom floor... hit the road course or drag strip no problem. heck even nascar could run mufflers and cat converters and not lose any performance. Probably not for much longer with the trend toward EV's. What about the low buck guys that want to race and have fun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted March 19, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted March 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Skidooski said: Probably not for much longer with the trend toward EV's. What about the low buck guys that want to race and have fun? So they will get faster then. Most hybrids and EV’s that are performance oriented are a lot quicker. low buck guys can buy a used mustang or camaro or challenger or civic and race all they want... nobody is stopping them from racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member 800renegaderider Posted March 19, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted March 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, Skidooski said: OK so lets get back to mandatory inspections for on road registered vehicles if that's what needs to happen. Why go after racing? We have mandatory inspections in NH they never say anything about no cats. No check engine light your good to go and that’s easy enough to bypass. The only way to stop no cats on public roads would be like what California does. It is all but impossible to run any kind of modification and still pass smog in ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted March 19, 2021 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, BOHICA said: So they will get faster then. Most hybrids and EV’s that are performance oriented are a lot quicker. low buck guys can buy a used mustang or camaro or challenger or civic and race all they want... nobody is stopping them from racing. Yay...stock unmodified cars Estrogen pills, solar panels and EV's...... sounds like fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted March 19, 2021 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, 800renegaderider said: We have mandatory inspections in NH they never say anything about no cats. No check engine light your good to go and that’s easy enough to bypass. The only way to stop no cats on public roads would be like what California does. It is all but impossible to run any kind of modification and still pass smog in ca I remember when I was younger the mandatory inspections we used to have here and the things people would do to pass them. But that was with Joe the mechanic at the local Gas Station when we used to have mechanics there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted March 19, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Skidooski said: Yay...stock unmodified cars Estrogen pills, solar panels and EV's...... sounds like fun! What’s wrong with a stock SS 1le camaro, mustang Mach 1, or a used hellcat? There is very little benefit in racing those by cutting mufflers and cats off. Only thing it accomplishes is making the owner look like an inbred hillbilly when using that vehicle on public roads. Edited March 19, 2021 by BOHICA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball 440 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, BOHICA said: What’s wrong with a stock SS 1le camaro, mustang Mach 1, or a used hellcat. There is very little benefit in racing those by cutting mufflers and cats off. Only thing it accomplishes is making the owner look like an inbred hillbilly when using that vehicle on public roads. How about the everyday guy with skills and a low budget? I can take a $500 car and turn it into a race car this is a hobby and carries a huge following. You just eliminated a huge industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member 800renegaderider Posted March 19, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted March 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Skidooski said: I remember when I was younger the mandatory inspections we used to have here and the things people would do to pass them. But that was with Joe the mechanic at the local Gas Station when we used to have mechanics there. They’ve definitely gotten a lot more strict but it’s still not a issue as long as no codes show up. They care more about safety thing tires etc and rust holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted March 19, 2021 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Fireball 440 said: How about the everyday guy with skills and a low budget? I can take a $500 car and turn it into a race car this is a hobby and carries a huge following. You just eliminated a huge industry. Bohica says just got but a 1LE then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball 440 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Skidooski said: Bohica says just got but a 1LE then Yeah that's the answer. He just joined the club of MC & SR level stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted March 19, 2021 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, 800renegaderider said: They’ve definitely gotten a lot more strict but it’s still not a issue as long as no codes show up. They care more about safety thing tires etc and rust holes. If the issue is from what people do on public roads then maybe there needs to be some changes there. We're all going to be driving EV's or something similar soon enough. Leave motorsport racing alone is all I'm saying. Be it the big buck guys or the low buck enthusiast. It's on a track! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted March 19, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted March 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Fireball 440 said: How about the everyday guy with skills and a low budget? I can take a $500 car and turn it into a race car this is a hobby and carries a huge following. You just eliminated a huge industry. You going to use it on public roads in its illegally modified form for onroad use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball 440 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just now, BOHICA said: You going to use it on public roads in its illegally modified form for onroad use? Fuckin right I am. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted March 19, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Fireball 440 said: Fuckin right I am. You are part of reason the gov is cracking down on the aftermarket industry then. Own worst enemy when it comes to motor sports. you’re pretty much an off trail rider in and on trail only area and ruining the sport for everyone else. Edited March 19, 2021 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball 440 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, BOHICA said: You are part of reason the gov is cracking down on the aftermarket industry then. Own worst enemy when it comes to motor sports. you’re pretty much an off trail rider in and on trail only area and ruining the sport for everyone else. Only you can make that comparison smh. I'll build my rusty beater and come do donuts on your solar grid and knock over your windmills. I don't roll coal though that's just disrespectful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted March 19, 2021 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 19, 2021 How far down the road will we need special acceptations to drive an old gas powered vehicle on the road anways? Let's not speed that up by allowing the EPA to do a massive overreach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted March 19, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Fireball 440 said: Only you can make that comparison smh. I'll build my rusty beater and come do donuts on your solar grid and knock over your windmills. I don't roll coal though that's just disrespectful. Your not the type that is really in discussion on the RPM act. It’s not like you are buying anything that has much newer tech then a carburetor. So your $500 tuning might be a timing change, split fire plugs, MSD wires and some carb jets. this whole thing revolves around widely available tuners that defeat emission equipment. They need to be regulated out if people are not going to police themselves Edited March 19, 2021 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Skidooski said: If the issue is from what people do on public roads then maybe there needs to be some changes there. We're all going to be driving EV's or something similar soon enough. Leave motorsport racing alone is all I'm saying. Be it the big buck guys or the low buck enthusiast. It's on a track! agreed on track there should be no issue- but the reality is for a long time all that stuffs been for offroad use only and yet daily is on the road. so now they are taking it to the enxt level. big fines didn't seem to help. Reality is like with many things we already have laws to address it but no one wants to enforce them so they will pass more feel good laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball 440 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 7 hours ago, BOHICA said: Your not the type that is really in discussion on the RPM act. It’s not like you are buying anything that has much newer tech then a carburetor. So your $500 tuning might be a timing change, split fire plugs, MSD wires and some carb jets. this whole thing revolves around widely available tuners that defeat emission equipment. They need to be regulated out if people are not going to police themselves Tell me again why anything needs to be more regulated. What reason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Fireball 440 said: Tell me again why anything needs to be more regulated. What reason? For the greater good. Is you slow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted March 19, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Fireball 440 said: Tell me again why anything needs to be more regulated. What reason? People removing clean emissions equipment and driving said vehicles on road in public. Edited March 19, 2021 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball 440 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, BOHICA said: People removing clean emissions equipment and driving said vehicles on road in public. So you're so concerned about this 0.000005% of cars on the road you need to do more regulating and not more enforcing. Removing and defeating emissions equipment is already illegal. If it's such a big deal, enforce the current laws already in effect. Just like the southern border. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted March 19, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Fireball 440 said: So you're so concerned about this 0.000005% of cars on the road you need to do more regulating and not more enforcing. Removing and defeating emissions equipment is already illegal. If it's such a big deal, enforce the current laws already in effect. Just like the southern border. Current laws state aftermarket modification manufactures can’t sell emissions defeating devices for on road use... so they are enforcing the law and that is why some are upset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member 800renegaderider Posted March 19, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted March 19, 2021 21 minutes ago, BOHICA said: People removing clean emissions equipment and driving said vehicles on road in public. We gonna ban driving all pre 70ish cars that never came with cats or emissions crap also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball 440 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Current laws state aftermarket modification manufactures can’t sell emissions defeating devices for on road use... so they are enforcing the law and that is why some are upset There was no problem until some Karen went all liberal about 5 years ago. There still isn't a problem. Biden needs to strong arm this RPM act but he's an electric car faggot so he won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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