SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, f7ben said: Because you need to be called out every single post you make. You are an absolute fucking moron spewing nonsense .....just fucking end it already you fat piece of worthless shit Dude I am pretty sure that I could NEVER catch up with your sled forum ignorance in this lifetime. No worries there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, SayatodaU.P.eh? said: There are more company’s sure. That’s not my point and never was. The factory’s are figuring out better ways to do it because they have actual engineering, research and development teams with the tech and tools to do it better, that’s all. Guys out west have been moving away from BD and towards BB’s with twins for the past few years now. You don’t think that Burandt, Entz and Adam’s didn’t have anything to do with the new sleds and turbo packages? Lot of the aftermarket companies can’t keep up with the needs of those guys out west either. Take Skinz for example. Fucking horrible supply issues. Do you think it really took Burandt that long to put together his big build sled for the year just because he didn’t have time to do it? How about Entz? Now Polaris just built most of those built sleds at the factory. Or will, I should say, this summer. Big move for Polaris that I think will pay off big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 1 minute ago, SayatodaU.P.eh? said: Dude I am pretty sure that I could NEVER catch up with your sled forum ignorance in this lifetime. No worries there. Tell us more about how the factory turbos are better than the aftermarket fucking brain dead retard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Polaris' website seems about as reliable as their motors right now, wonder how long until it'll be up and running smoothly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, SayatodaU.P.eh? said: There are more company’s sure. That’s not my point and never was. The factory’s are figuring out better ways to do it because they have actual engineering, research and development teams with the tech and tools to do it better, that’s all. Guys out west have been moving away from BD and towards BB’s with twins for the past few years now. You don’t think that Burandt, Entz and Adam’s didn’t have anything to do with the new sleds and turbo packages? Lot of the aftermarket companies can’t keep up with the needs of those guys out west either. Take Skinz for example. Fucking horrible supply issues. Do you think it really took Burandt that long to put together his big build sled for the year just because he didn’t have time to do it? How about Entz? Now Polaris just built most of those built sleds at the factory. Or will, I should say, this summer. Big move for Polaris that I think will pay off big time. I'm thinking there is more to their issues then supply chain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 1 minute ago, SayatodaU.P.eh? said: There are more company’s sure. That’s not my point and never was. The factory’s are figuring out better ways to do it because they have actual engineering, research and development teams with the tech and tools to do it better, that’s all. Guys out west have been moving away from BD and towards BB’s with twins for the past few years now. You don’t think that Burandt, Entz and Adam’s didn’t have anything to do with the new sleds and turbo packages? Lot of the aftermarket companies can’t keep up with the needs of those guys out west either. Take Skinz for example. Fucking horrible supply issues. Do you think it really took Burandt that long to put together his big build sled for the year just because he didn’t have time to do it? How about Entz? Now Polaris just built most of those built sleds at the factory. Or will, I should say, this summer. Big move for Polaris that I think will pay off big time. Thats simply just not true. Do I think those guys helped Poo design a turbo system? I imagine they did. They all use BD, which IMO is the cream of the crop for Poo sleds. Why not mimic it, or better yet, more low end snap, less high rpm HP. Sounds perfect for the masses. 9LBS at 10K with no Avgas. Thats probably 185-195hp. At 10K feet. Aint no BB with twins even coming close to that. The guys that want big power are still going to buy BD, Silber, etc. They all build multiple sleds per year. Not sure where you are going with that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Just now, racinfarmer said: I'm thinking there is more to their issues then supply chain. Right. They cannot produce enough supply to keep up with demand. They’ve had the same problem for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Legend said: Thats simply just not true. Do I think those guys helped Poo design a turbo system? I imagine they did. They all use BD, which IMO is the cream of the crop for Poo sleds. Why not mimic it, or better yet, more low end snap, less high rpm HP. Sounds perfect for the masses. 9LBS at 10K with no Avgas. Thats probably 185-195hp. At 10K feet. Aint no BB with twins even coming close to that. The guys that want big power are still going to buy BD, Silber, etc. They all build multiple sleds per year. Not sure where you are going with that... Guarantee the Polaris sponsored guys won't be running Boondocker setups in their mod sleds anymore, maybe they'll be modding the factory turbo with a tune or something, but not a chance Polaris will let them ride a non-factory turbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Legend said: Thats simply just not true. Do I think those guys helped Poo design a turbo system? I imagine they did. They all use BD, which IMO is the cream of the crop for Poo sleds. Why not mimic it, or better yet, more low end snap, less high rpm HP. Sounds perfect for the masses. 9LBS at 10K with no Avgas. Thats probably 185-195hp. At 10K feet. Aint no BB with twins even coming close to that. The guys that want big power are still going to buy BD, Silber, etc. They all build multiple sleds per year. Not sure where you are going with that... How many Turbo sleds does CB have in his fleet this year? How many BB’s? I saw way more BBs going out of his shop than turbos over the past few years. I would never say that a BB would make more power than a boosted sled in all situations. The NA sleds seem to do it more reliably is all. I think that’s why the BB/piped sleds are coming back around. I’m sure that having another factory turbo sled to choose from will probably take some customers back away from those though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Wildboer said: Guarantee the Polaris sponsored guys won't be running Boondocker setups in their mod sleds anymore, maybe they'll be modding the factory turbo with a tune or something, but not a chance Polaris will let them ride a non-factory turbo. Not sure. Depends on their sponsor agreements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Wildboer said: Guarantee the Polaris sponsored guys won't be running Boondocker setups in their mod sleds anymore, maybe they'll be modding the factory turbo with a tune or something, but not a chance Polaris will let them ride a non-factory turbo. I am sure guys like Vohk will be getting their hands on these factory turbo sleds this summer and trying to figure out ways to turn them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Just now, SayatodaU.P.eh? said: How many Turbo sleds does CB have in his fleet this year? How many BB’s? I saw way more BBs going out of his shop than turbos over the past few years. I would never say that a BB would make more power than a boosted sled in all situations. The NA sleds seem to do it more reliably is all. I think that’s why the BB/piped sleds are coming back around. I’m sure that having another factory turbo sled to choose from will probably take some customers back away from those though. At 10K feet?? Come on man, you know this... A big bore with big fucking slugs banging up and down more reliable than a turbo?? Aren't you a auto tech or something?? Come on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Arctic cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Legend said: At 10K feet?? Come on man, you know this... A big bore with big fucking slugs banging up and down more reliable than a turbo?? Aren't you a auto tech or something?? Come on! Run/drivability is not reliability. We must not speak the same language? Guys have been bitching about the inconsistency of the run/drivability of aftermarket turbo sleds for a while now. NA engines are easier to “tune” in a lot of conditions for better run/drivability on these two strokes. Sure, both can go either way at times but in general. I already knew this but Burandt has already come out in the last hour and confirmed that he was riding these turbo’d 850 Polaris engine equipped sleds for two years already. Polaris really does want direct feedback from those guys. They have for years. Also, as far as reliability goes, which engine do you think is easier to say have a bad combustion event in? NA or boosted? If you think a bad combustion event in an engine, especially a small two stroke engine, is no big deal well then...... Edited March 2, 2021 by SayatodaU.P.eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Holy christ. Yeah ok. The clutching god was right..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Arctic cat. They are bleeding out in an alley somewhere, right now. They literally bring nothing to the table for sure now. Thanks Textron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Just now, SayatodaU.P.eh? said: They are bleeding out in an alley somewhere, right now. They literally bring nothing to the table for sure now. Thanks Textron. Being an old Polaris guy, it’s good to see them dominate the industry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Legend said: Holy christ. Yeah ok. The clutching god was right..... Do you have any idea on how gas engine development works? Yeah. Never mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Just now, ActionfigureJoe said: Being an old Polaris guy, it’s good to see them dominate the industry. I would rather see more options that pretty much just two companies bring but I guess that’s the way shit goes anymore these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 So turbo 850 be 185+ hp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted March 2, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 2, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted March 2, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted March 2, 2021 How much is a turbo 850 Polaris? As much as a Mach Z? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 1 minute ago, BOHICA said: How much is a turbo 850 Polaris? As much as a Mach Z? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 I hope Polaris takes #1. Ski doo deserves to lose it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, ACE said: I hope Polaris takes #1. Ski doo deserves to lose it Yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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