Crnr2Crnr Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 I know, I know, this isn't a tech forum but some of you have supposedly ridden and watched someone work on your snowmobile... So I need to add a temp gauge to the 720 to keep a closer eye on coolant temp after the rebuild and am looking at adding one of these... https://kosonorthamerica.com/product/proton-thermometer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cwhite138 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) I run a Koso mini, seems to work fine... its not the one in that link and it looks like the updated it from going through the website. I will say it goes though a far amount of batteries... not sure if its the cold or id I leave it on... im bad for leaving it on I have no factory temp sensor, there was a plug by the thermostat it threaded right in. Edited December 14, 2020 by Cwhite138 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cwhite138 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 5 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: I know, I know, this isn't a tech forum but some of you have supposedly ridden and watched someone work on your snowmobile... So I need to add a temp gauge to the 720 to keep a closer eye on coolant temp after the rebuild and am looking at adding one of these... https://kosonorthamerica.com/product/proton-thermometer/ you need an EGT gauge looking at those pictures you posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, Cwhite138 said: you need an EGT gauge looking at those pictures you posted it got hot on me once that I know of, then snowball effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cwhite138 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) I keep a pretty close eye on my tepms as I do not have rear cooler... I normally runn it a little hotter than a lot of people suggest.. i dont know if its the reverse colling system the laydown engine has or what. poo guys would be shitting bricks if they had my "normal" temps. at least from the treads I could find, only seems to be poo tards going on about coolant temps... them and their gauges. 13 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: it got hot on me once that I know of, then snowball effect. I dont think the gauge in the link is backlit... that might be a pain in the ass. Just get the slim series...rather than that one... Edited December 14, 2020 by Cwhite138 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 I had their EGT/Temp/Tach on my IQR. The connectors are terrible, no strain relief and are easy to mung up. Haven't looked at their pure temp only, but am skeptical it is worth the premium that they think their name allows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Digitron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 On 12/13/2020 at 9:48 PM, Cwhite138 said: I keep a pretty close eye on my tepms as I do not have rear cooler... I normally runn it a little hotter than a lot of people suggest.. i dont know if its the reverse colling system the laydown engine has or what. poo guys would be shitting bricks if they had my "normal" temps. at least from the treads I could find, only seems to be poo tards going on about coolant temps... them and their gauges. I dont think the gauge in the link is backlit... that might be a pain in the ass. Just get the slim series...rather than that one... looked at those as well, want it lit at night and visible during the daytime. On 12/14/2020 at 8:26 AM, Deephaven said: I had their EGT/Temp/Tach on my IQR. The connectors are terrible, no strain relief and are easy to mung up. Haven't looked at their pure temp only, but am skeptical it is worth the premium that they think their name allows. that's easy to fix, I have a crapload of butt connectors and packard connectors On 12/14/2020 at 10:19 AM, XCR1250 said: Digitron they're rather proud of those Don - yikes! http://www.digatronusa.com/pricing-snowmobiles.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 28 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: that's easy to fix, I have a crapload of butt connectors and packard connectors If that was the fix I wouldn't have posted. The connection on the temp sensor needs the love, the rest anyone can repair. Hard to solder onto two 1/64" stubs that are 1/16" apart....and I might be generous with my measurements there. Shit design and Koso doesn't care. I've had 3 of their gauges and will never own another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, Deephaven said: If that was the fix I wouldn't have posted. The connection on the temp sensor needs the love, the rest anyone can repair. Hard to solder onto two 1/64" stubs that are 1/16" apart....and I might be generous with my measurements there. Shit design and Koso doesn't care. I've had 3 of their gauges and will never own another. is it a vibration issue, poor solder or something a little heat shrink and patience can rectify? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 The reason I had 3 is the first two didn't require me to ever remove them. The third....well fuck me. Cheap asses use like 80 gauge wire and no strain relief on the sensor. Then they extort some absurd amount of money for a replacement. The connector alone will rape the connection if you aren't super diligent in zip tieing it up. Their biggest problem may be their Canadi-European complete lack of service. They build a pos and then don't back it up. I'm never buying Koso anything again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, Deephaven said: The reason I had 3 is the first two didn't require me to ever remove them. The third....well fuck me. Cheap asses use like 80 gauge wire and no strain relief on the sensor. Then they extort some absurd amount of money for a replacement. The connector alone will rape the connection if you aren't super diligent in zip tieing it up. Their biggest problem may be their Canadi-European complete lack of service. They build a pos and then don't back it up. I'm never buying Koso anything again. I'm going to have to try something to monitor the temp other than the light that finally comes blinking on when it hits HOLY-FUCK!!! degrees, and I don't want to run wires all over the place. Koso looks like what I want but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cwhite138 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 8 hours ago, Deephaven said: If that was the fix I wouldn't have posted. The connection on the temp sensor needs the love, the rest anyone can repair. Hard to solder onto two 1/64" stubs that are 1/16" apart....and I might be generous with my measurements there. Shit design and Koso doesn't care. I've had 3 of their gauges and will never own another. Its funny you say that... I completely forgot the original temp sensor that came on my sled was a koso and it broke off right at the sensor... I had for gotten about that. there was no fix as it broke off exactly where it came out of the sensor. I did put some dual wall shrink tube where exits the sensor... so hopefully that is enough strain relief. we will see. I only got a Koso because it was the cheapest smallest could find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: looked at those as well, want it lit at night and visible during the daytime. that's easy to fix, I have a crapload of butt connectors and packard connectors they're rather proud of those Don - yikes! http://www.digatronusa.com/pricing-snowmobiles.shtml I have 3 Digitron's, well 2 now as I sold 1 for $100 a couple months ago. See/check what Aaen has.. Edited December 16, 2020 by XCR1250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 56 minutes ago, Cwhite138 said: Its funny you say that... I completely forgot the original temp sensor that came on my sled was a koso and it broke off right at the sensor... I had for gotten about that. there was no fix as it broke off exactly where it came out of the sensor. I did put some dual wall shrink tube where exits the sensor... so hopefully that is enough strain relief. we will see. I only got a Koso because it was the cheapest smallest could find. Sad that a $20 O'reilly special was better than the Koso in that regard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cwhite138 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 no O'reilly her in the great white north my friend. is it back lit and battery operated? I have no battery in the sled so it really cut down on my options unless I got a rectifier (from what I read) can you send me a link... I have a feeling I will be changing that sensor again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 What you need is a 7s gauge display cluster fuck. Just admit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFM Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 56 minutes ago, Cwhite138 said: no O'reilly her in the great white north my friend. is it back lit and battery operated? I have no battery in the sled so it really cut down on my options unless I got a rectifier (from what I read) can you send me a link... I have a feeling I will be changing that sensor again. Superbrightleds.com has rectifiers for $12-$15 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFM Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Maybe this https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/installation-power/12v-ac-to-dc-converter-module/1725/4134/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Full wave bridge is easy to make. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Or grab one from a used sled store. Think I paid $4 for the last one I grabbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, XCR1250 said: I have 3 Digitron's, well 2 now as I sold 1 for $100 a couple months ago. See/check what Aaen has.. I'll come up in a week to relieve you of one Don. 12 hours ago, Cwhite138 said: no O'reilly her in the great white north my friend. is it back lit and battery operated? I have no battery in the sled so it really cut down on my options unless I got a rectifier (from what I read) can you send me a link... I have a feeling I will be changing that sensor again. did you get it from Canadian Tire, or Tim Horton's? yes, I've spent some time north of the border and heavily overpaid for mannnnnnnnnnnny cases of beer. 12 hours ago, mnstang said: What you need is a 7s gauge display cluster fuck. Just admit it. yes, because I typically spend far too much time enjoying riding and already knowing where I'm going when I should instead be jerking off to my new $13,000 gauge attached to a snowmobile. Edited December 17, 2020 by Crnr2Crnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) void Edited December 17, 2020 by Crnr2Crnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cwhite138 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 10 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: I'll come up in a week to relieve you of one Don. did you get it from Canadian Tire, or Tim Horton's? yes, I've spent some time north of the border and heavily overpaid for mannnnnnnnnnnny cases of beer. yes, because I typically spend far too much time enjoying riding and already knowing where I'm going when I should instead be jerking off to my new $13,000 gauge attached to a snowmobile. Well you know you have to pay for better beer.. right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 10 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: I'll come up in a week to relieve you of one Don. did you get it from Canadian Tire, or Tim Horton's? yes, I've spent some time north of the border and heavily overpaid for mannnnnnnnnnnny cases of beer. yes, because I typically spend far too much time enjoying riding and already knowing where I'm going when I should instead be jerking off to my new $13,000 gauge attached to a snowmobile. 10 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: I'll come up in a week to relieve you of one Don. did you get it from Canadian Tire, or Tim Horton's? yes, I've spent some time north of the border and heavily overpaid for mannnnnnnnnnnny cases of beer. yes, because I typically spend far too much time enjoying riding and already knowing where I'm going when I should instead be jerking off to my new $13,000 gauge attached to a snowmobile. The other 2 are on sleds, the sleds are for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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