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Shock poll: Biden extends lead over Trump to 17 points


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7 hours ago, irv said:

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Opinium surveyed 2,003 US adults aged 18+ from 8th to 12th October 2020. Interviews were conducted online and sampled and weighted to match the demographics of the US adult population as well as factoring in education level and past vote in recent elections.

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35 minutes ago, snoughnut said:

:lol::lol:

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Opinium surveyed 2,003 US adults aged 18+ from 8th to 12th October 2020. Interviews were conducted online and sampled and weighted to match the demographics of the US adult population as well as factoring in education level and past vote in recent elections.

Solid results

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Well one of 2 things will happen with this election.

1. Biden wins huge as the "polls" are predicting.

2. Trump wins and we can finally confirm that polling isn't an accurate measure of voters intentions. 

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3 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Well one of 2 things will happen with this election.

1. Biden wins huge as the "polls" are predicting.

2. Trump wins and we can finally confirm that polling isn't an accurate measure of voters intentions. 

That actually happened already back in 2016. :lol:

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2 hours ago, snoughnut said:

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Opinium surveyed 2,003 US adults aged 18+ from 8th to 12th October 2020. Interviews were conducted online and sampled and weighted to match the demographics of the US adult population as well as factoring in education level and past vote in recent elections.

and?    thats how polling works.  Your not going to poll 2-300k people.  You try to get a representative sample.   

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Well one of 2 things will happen with this election.

1. Biden wins huge as the "polls" are predicting.

2. Trump wins and we can finally confirm that polling isn't an accurate measure of voters intentions. 

the popular election polls were pretty accurate in 2016 with Hillary up by 3%

they need to get more accurate on a state by state basis since the EC is what matters but trumps wins were all within margins of error in those states as well so the fundamentals of polling are not actually wrong.    

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Angry ginger said:

and?    thats how polling works.  Your not going to poll 2-300k people.  You try to get a representative sample.   

 

 

 

That's the issue.   Polls do not always use a representative sample and doing so intentionally is a clear sign of an agenda. 

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7 minutes ago, Angry ginger said:

the popular election polls were pretty accurate in 2016 with Hillary up by 3%

they need to get more accurate on a state by state basis since the EC is what matters but trumps wins were all within margins of error in those states as well so the fundamentals of polling are not actually wrong.    

 

 

Actually some of the battleground state results were outside the MoE.   Also those polls when extrapolated to a % chance to win were way the fuck off. 

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2 minutes ago, Highmark said:

That's the issue.   Polls do not always use a representative sample and doing so intentionally is a clear sign of an agenda. 

agreed but nothing in what curdhead posted shows bias.   We have a really good polling program at the local university and I get sampled quite often from them being registered as an independent.  the filtering questions only work if people don't play games and TBH i feel many including myself do play games when doing these polls.  

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6 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Actually some of the battleground state results were outside the MoE.   Also those polls when extrapolated to a % chance to win were way the fuck off. 

That is an issue,  Wild ass guesses when it comes to a lot of the downstream what ifs and they were locking in assumptions that were completely wrong.   

OH and WI where the normal 3%+- MOE was exceeded the Hillary polling there was accurate the third party was not.  This election is there anyone even running third party cause their momentum is below 0 right now 

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4 minutes ago, Angry ginger said:

That is an issue,  Wild ass guesses when it comes to a lot of the downstream what ifs and they were locking in assumptions that were completely wrong.   

Yes sometimes it might be part of the deal but many times pollsters are doing it and news outlets are using it to discourage voters from voting.   "Well he/she doesn't have a chance so why go vote."  

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23 minutes ago, Angry ginger said:

agreed but nothing in what curdhead posted shows bias.   We have a really good polling program at the local university and I get sampled quite often from them being registered as an independent.  the filtering questions only work if people don't play games and TBH i feel many including myself do play games when doing these polls.  

Dude, give your fire melon a shake, if you don't think polls are biased, you're a fool. The fact that alot of polls are done at universities is a clear sign.

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Just now, Mainecat said:

The polling was correct Clinton won by 3 million votes.

But yet lost the race. The polling was a fail, they need to figure out a way to recognize the EC in this. 
I think they’re biased. I’ve had a few calls where they end it if they’re not getting the answers they like. If I play along it’s a different result. You’d have to be blind not to see exactly what they’re doing here.

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40 minutes ago, Angry ginger said:

the popular election polls were pretty accurate in 2016 with Hillary up by 3%

they need to get more accurate on a state by state basis since the EC is what matters but trumps wins were all within margins of error in those states as well so the fundamentals of polling are not actually wrong.    

 

 

No point trying to beat common sense into these guys heads they are all wearing meat helmets. 3 swing states went in trump's favor by less than 80k total votes combined - that was the difference not 'inaccurate polling'. 

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