MuskokaGator

How dumb can you get? Don't answer that we already know the answer (because you parade it around all the time).

Those were provincial bi-elections. Nothing to do with the federal Tories.

10 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

Not sure that these people care about jail time

5 years for just carrying it seems pretty tough

 

• maximum 5 years in prison for carrying a concealed weapon when tried as an indictable offence

 

https://www.kruselaw.ca/library/penalties-and-sentencing-for-weapons-offences-kruse-law.cfm

 

 

 

 

It doesn't matter what they think about it. It gets them off the streets for long periods of time. It's hard to repeat offend when you are in jail.

Again, you are naive. 5 years is never that long. They get credited with double time for time served prior to conviction and all terms are maximum with usually only a third of the time served. We would be lucky if the actual time served was 1 to 1.5 years.

8 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

of course it won't stop shootings but what are you offering as a alternative? 

I am not a fan of ARM THE PUBLIC, more guns

I am a fan of Police not having their first thought of "he/she is armed" and being shot.

I don't won't to be pulled over with guns out like happens in the USA

 

What is your suggestions?  DO NOTHING is a common answer

How naive of you. If it doesn't stop the shootings what makes you think there would be any change in what a policeman thinks?

The Federal Government needs to put their efforts and funding into things that will make things better rather than giving the impression that they are:

- more enforcement at the border to stop illegal guns from entering Canada

- harsher penalties for crimes involving guns. No bail for anyone committing a crime with a gun (no getting out before the police finish the paper work - they stay in jail until their trial is over and only released if they are innocent). Life in jail with absolutely no parole for anyone who kills with a gun. 25 years in jail with absolutely no parole for anyone who uses a gun while committing a crime.

I really don't care if they eventually make hand gun ownership more difficult, but they need to solve the illegal gun problem first and stiffen the penalties for crimes with hand guns.

11 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

it is exactly how insurance works, chance of accident in this area vs this area.  STolen cars in the area vs this area

 

Doug can form a new law if he wishes 

Postal code is a great system if you only drive in your own area. Much better to use your driving history. That goes where ever you drive.

8 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

?  Doug has done a fine job?  who has said different?

And I am the one that points out Ontario is doing better than the rest of Canada - IRV and AC think Trudeau is doing all of this for some strange reason.

 

carry on

 

 

 

The first sentences in your post say it...

I think Doug Ford is scrambling and for obvious reasons he is in way over  his head, this isn't something he ever dreamed of dealing with.  He probably sees this as something to combat his closures of businesses.

On 12/16/2021 at 12:02 PM, 1trailmaker said:

I think Doug Ford is scrambling and for obvious reasons he is in way over  his head, this isn't something he ever dreamed of dealing with.  He probably sees this as something to combat his closures of businesses.

 

The virus is mutating in people that can't fight it or fight it poorly, this can be helped with vaccines...  It is literally the way POLIO was stopped as a travelling virus ( yes people still got polio that were vaccinated this is documented facts, no hidden agendas)

 

One thing we see is how people react to a ONCE IN A LIFE TIME situation.  Very interesting 

Your hatred of Doug is clouding your judgement. Ontario has approximately 40% of Canada's population but in almost every covid stat. that has been published we are contributing less than 40% (in some cases much less).

Obviously Ontario is doing many of the right things.

12 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

IRV will just deny this as fake or say "see look at all the vaccinated in the hospital -  He is very smart and sees things you can not understand.

 

AC says 95% of all cases are vaccinated people according to his twitter feed

It doesn't take brains to deny the obvious....

On 12/16/2021 at 9:52 AM, irv said:

It's amazing some still think the vaccines are working and are also advocating for the boosters. 

Bizzaro world! 

I think the following charts show precisely how they are working...

Since you state that 84% of the eligible population is fully vaccinated when the daily cases reaches 50/50 it means that the unvaxed cases come from 16% of the eligible population. That makes them 5+ times more likely to get covid. Not very good odds.

23 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

How much or the record debt have we paid back left from our Parents   

Funny how we always say OUR KIDS WILL PAY meaning WE' never will 

Going back 30 years we owed over 450 billion, although some was paid back by the Liberal government but other than that not one cent has been paid back by US   -  I guess we are just leaving it for our kids and than their kids 

 

We paid back our Parents Hydro debt, this has cost us much.   And since prices have double in 2020 thanks to DOUG FORD we are now not leaving our debt to our children, and you are not happy about it I am betting 

 

I wonder what the cost of doing nothing would be

Okay Mr. Smart Guy. We are paying interest on that debt. If you never pay any of it back and the debt keeps going up, we will be paying increasing interest forever and never reducing the principle. I bet we have payed the debt many times over. If we have many more years like this one we won't be able to even pay the annual interest.

21 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

here

https://www.oeb.ca/rates-and-your-bill/electricity-rates/historical-electricity-rates

 

really get with the program

I see from the article you supplied that one rate has almost doubled, another has gone up by approx. 1/3 and the other has actually gone down from last year. In Fail economics this means that all rates have doubled. If you look back in the year chart the rates are even higher before they were artificially lowered by borrowing money.

You FAIL again. You can't make it true by stating your fantasy data over and over again.

Still haven't seen proof of your hydro costs doubling....

6 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

are you saying rates didn't near double?

get a grip

Still haven't seen any proof that your bill has doubled (i won't hold my breath).

Irregardless, this was all caused by McGuilty and no-Wynne. They spent billions and then borrowed money to artificially lower bills immediately to be paid back by our children. Its like a speeding train, it takes along time for the brakes to take effect.

With you there is no pretending to be dumb. You are, and seem to be proud of it.

11 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

what are you rambling about?

at covid prices 12.8  cents kwh is double the rate of off peak last year

 

 

As I said...deflect...deflect...deflect.

The off peak price is just one of 3 prices. How did the other 2 compare? Like I said show us your bill to prove your cost has doubled (absolutely no chance of this ever happening...). The over all bill is the only way to really to see what effect the rate change has made.

With your lack of financial and mathematical knowledge it is no wonder that you make ridiculous claims based on the change of one of 3 rates for hydro power.

20 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

THE SUN quick to make huge numbers like 1400$ a year more but they mean in 10 years from now.....

Interesting that there wasn't one word printed by this group about the biggest hydro rate increase in our history last January - 91% increase for fuck sakes

 

Love that ONEWAY REPORTS

https://torontosun.com/news/national/liberals-clean-fuel-standard-to-increase-home-heating-costs-advocacy-group?fbclid=IwAR0UFkTi7Rl7JAoKcWp6Abh2VdrQS3X6iyal9EvUvJxPd1b3WF82GF0KBXs

I just checked my payments for the end of last year and the beginning of this year. Largest increase in Feb. was about 20% (total bill not rates) and last month it was about 20% less. Is this just another one of those items that you keep repeating and then expect everyone to believe you? Show us your bills from last year and this year to prove your point (you can blank out address and account number). I won't hold my breath waiting for you to post your actual bills.

Hold on I hear some keyboard input coming from you.... " deflect...deflect...deflect...deflect... Why won't these people accept my oneway  views, I've repeated them often enough to make them true!"

4 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

Well one person stole money from members for personal gain and the other didn't, really there isn't a comparison....  I really have no problem with Scheer taking trips with his family

 

Scheer needs to go away I can't understand having him around anymore, he has been horrible at the job as the election proved.

 

Seems like you are generating your own fake news in your undying need to make Trudeau (should be Liedeau) look good (an impossible task). In the Global News story below, Scheer submitted the costs to the Conservative Party and they approved the expenses. He didn't steal anything. May not have been a proper expense but the Conservative Party should have turned it down.

OTTAWA — Andrew Scheer billed the Conservative party for his kids’ private Catholic school, private security, an extra housekeeper, his minivan and clothes for his family, a party review of the outgoing leader’s spending has concluded.

The audit found his expenses — including $18,000 per year in private school tuition fees — were properly recorded by the Conservative party but not shared in an itemized way with the powerful group overseeing the party’s finances, known as the Conservative Fund.

Party spokesman Cory Hann confirmed the audit was complete and had been reviewed by the party’s national council.

“The party’s audit found no red flags in the party’s accounting system and noted that all the expenses that were paid out were documented fully,” Hann said in an email Thursday.

He also said the Conservative Fund considers the matter closed.

The audit had been ordered last fall.

Questions about how Scheer had been using party money began to surface at the same time as senior Conservatives were publicly calling for him to resign. They cited his failure to knock the Liberals out of power in the 2019 campaign and his perceived inability to do so in the next campaign.

Just as Scheer was announcing he’d step aside as soon as his replacement was chosen, it became public that party money had been used to pay for his children’s private school tuition.

While the party immediately said the move was above board, in the background a battle was raging between Scheer and the fund. Former Conservative prime minister Stephen Harper was on the board at the time.

The party allocates a budget to the leader meant to cover political expenses that wouldn’t be paid by the House of Commons but are part of the job, and also to potentially defray some of the leader’s general expenses.

But the specifics of Scheer’s expenses were not known by the fund and once details of the tuition payments were leaked, Harper and others were furious.

Harper’s own children went to public school. There are also publicly funded Catholic schools in Ottawa.

The ensuing fracas saw the fund push the party’s executive director — who had authorized the spending — out of his job and demand a line-by-line review.

As leader of the Opposition, Scheer made about $264,000 a year. That was before the automatic salary increase that took effect Wednesday, but he is promising to donate the difference to charity. He also receives a $2,000 car allowance.

He and his family live rent-free in the official Opposition leader’s residence, Stornoway, although they continue to maintain a home in Regina.

The money for schooling covered the difference between the cost of a private Catholic school in Regina and in Ottawa, amounting to $18,000 in total a year for Scheer’s four school-age kids.

Hann confirmed the Scheers expensed clothing, a housekeeper and money for school to the party. Other details, including the minivan, security and the amount spent on tuition came from a senior Conservative source familiar with the audit who was granted anonymity by The Canadian Press because they were not authorized to discuss it publicly.

Hann said the clothing the Scheer family expensed was used for campaign appearances and other party events.

The minivan made appearances in some of the party’s advertising and was often cited by Scheer as proof of his “average Canadian” background compared to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. It was used mainly to get the family around Ottawa.

A spokesperson for Scheer said he had nothing to add to the disclosure of the details of the audit.

Scheer has refused to discuss it in the past, saying only that it was an internal party matter and details would be made public in due course.

The review took place as part of the party’s overall accounting of its 2019 election campaign spending. Part of that was determining why Scheer’s office expenses came in at $500,000 over their normal budget.

The review concluded that his office had taken on pre-election expenses that should have been run through the party itself.

The leadership contest to replace Scheer was to conclude June 27, but is now on hold in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Though the spending controversy had largely faded from public view, it still simmered in the background for Conservatives.

59 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

Doug's tracking app is live. please download it to support Ford's tracking of citizens.

Hopefully this will be forced to your phone, we support you Doug - go doug go

You truly do not know anything. Covid Alert is not a tracking app.

Besides that you should love it as your loverboy JT supports it as well....

25 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

you can get hours  until Novermber, maybe december now 

so you just don't close on the last day dumb dumb 

 

The contracts were not for 2 months - so lets move on

 

I personally don't really like the entire program

Strong in you is the one way urge, Obe-Oneway.

Are you too much a Lieberal boot licker to realize there is a difference between the student "volunteers" receiving the funding and the contract workers paid to find them and submit the paper work. Thank god you're not involved in any of these programs or the deficit would be even worse than it is. Why on earth would they have staff for a year when the program runs for only a few months? Even though some funding may stretch beyond the summer, they won't be signing up volunteers after the summer. Do you expect to have these contract workers remain around for a year doing nothing but playing around on the internet (Yes, I guess YOU would expect that).

4 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

contracts are for 1 year, where do you get 2 months from?

https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/2020/07/11/we-charity-lays-off-hundreds-after-deal-with-trudeau-government-is-cancelled.html

"Two sources told the Star that WE originally indicated it would honour the contracts, most of which were set to end Aug. 31, according to the organization. But on Tuesday, the sources said, WE let them go. The organization told the Star that workers were given additional compensation based on how long they had worked with WE. "

On 7/12/2020 at 9:06 AM, 1trailmaker said:

455 employees contracted to WE to administer the grant program have been released from their contract.

now we know why it was 20 million 

 

 

So if we divy the $20 mill. amongst the 455 contracters that comes to almost $44,000 each for less than 2 months work. Sure looks like WE would be taking a really big cut to me.

LOL.  I wonder if the beard has made any difference?

47 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

Max said 2 years and Andrew and the rest said 5 years (this includes Trudope) 

so for your ONEWAY vote it will be more than just one term 

 

it was stated last night live   

Last election TrueDope said (strike that - promised) that he would balance it in the fourth year.

How did that work out?

22 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

Six packs at Sobey's are more expensive Than the BEER STORE

 

Molson Coors Brewing Company - 50.9%
Labatt Brewing Company (AB InBev) - 44.9%
Sleeman Breweries (Sapporo) - 4.2%[2]

 

but they sell hundreds of kinds of beer  

 

I personally like the idea a small brewer can make one call, pay self and delivery fees and have your product Province wide 

 

In alberta you have to buy from the Government Holding centers - really not much different than Ontario 

Right now there is a small number of grocery stores allowed to sell beer so it is not a valid comparison to what it could be.

What do you think the price would be if Costco were allowed to sell beer in Ontario?

50 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

New Brunswick then Alberta 

Ontario second cheapest for cans only Quebec sells cans cheaper 

 

THE BEER STORE does not set prices

It certainly isn't the Ontario Government. They set minimum prices for liquor and beer. The breweries and distillers set the price for their product above that minimum. Ontario and Feds set the taxes that apply to the beer and liquor. If Ontario set the price there would be more buck a beer products.

The Beer Store is owned by several major breweries, so basically they are setting prices. Although the Beer Store is privately owned (not government) they still run a virtual monopoly on beer sales. Regardless of volumes sold, the added competition should help to keep prices lower or not at least increase exponentially.

13 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

And PC's used to campaign on removing PST from Fuel but they don't anymore    none issue I guess 8% extra every dollar 

No one even gives this a thought anymore, its just the price of gas today  

 

What doesn't Ontario drop the PST 5 points so its a wash with the increase, since this is a job killing economy killing tax (never mind that its the opposite right now) 

FORD put ONTARIO in TRUDEAU's hands

Deflect , deflect, deflect.

22 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

not if gas prices goes low   

Gas used to be $1.40 a litre now 30% cheaper - do you see things going 30$% cheaper?  NO YOU DON'T 

Companies love to say things are more expensive as GAS goes up but never say things are cheaper as GAS goes down - its a game they play because they all have a cushion for GAS prices built in to their business, if they didn't they would go broke real quick

 

its a game of FEAR, I guess we will see who wins,  for you ONEWAY vote you have no choice in any Election its already chosen for your entire life

You really are a financial idiot. A product could only go down or up by the same percentage as gas if the gas accounts for 100% of the product, which of course is rediculous. Gas will be a percentage of the transportation cost for that product. If you buy the product once, the extra cost will be negligable. If you have to buy it frequently the extra cost could be a burden.

With products whose costs fluctuate it is always easy for someone to ask if you noticed any difference when an extra tax is added. The thing to remember with the carbon tax is that a litre of gas is always approximately 5 cents more per litre than it would be without the tax. If you want to know what it has cost, you need to keep track of the litres you have purchased since the tax was applied and multiply by 5 cents. Many people would be surprised at how much it adds up to. I know many people who will go out of their way to get to a gas station whose price is a penny or two less. We don't have the option, but I bet almost everybody would go to any gas station selling gas for 5 cents less.