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jdsky

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  1. I wouldn't be interested but how could you tell with his helmet on???
  2. Completely agree that when the engine options are there and the reliability of the platform overall becomes a complete non-factor the belt drive will be a nice to have feature. If these things become reality I will be a buyer again but I would hope the dealer network issue/s get resolved prior to. At the moment I have 3 possible dealers to purchase from and they carry every brand but cat right now. One option to fix that would be if Yamaha gets the new chassis.
  3. At least you admit you haven't ridden one. Anyone who has ridden doo or poo for years on different iterations of rider forward chassis' knows the catalyst will not be a game changer and those that have ridden it and can actually compare it to the others have been saying exactly that. Belt drive is not going to make it radically different. Laydown engine and centering the mass (even if it turns out to be a bit more than poo or doo) is not going to make it radically different for the average trail rider. The catalyst may eventually work out to be a better option for riders that own the other brands. It's clear that for now it's the best option for existing cat owners that want a rider forward design. The other shit, belt drive, composite running boards is shit for now that will have zero bearing on changing brands.
  4. Good review and definitely says what everyone else already on rider forward chassis' know is that this is catching up not changing the game. Is the belt better than a chain? Only time will tell and that's just another hurdle to get over. That's going to take thousands of sleds in owner's hands for thousands of miles before anyone will really know. It's definitely an advantage over having to change oil. Cat will sell all that they are able to make for next season because there is just a ton of pent up demand within the cat faithful. Hopefully next year brings an expanded lineup with additional engine options.
  5. This when a stock Poo 650 is already close to 140HP. As for power in the mountains. Who the fuck is buying a 600 to aftermarket turbo when you can just buy a factory turbo 850? Because you want less power on the mountains? Just fucking stupid any way you look at it.
  6. Well, cat even calls it a 125 class 600. Other than dumstad who gives two shits what some "media guy" says his butt dyno was reading? Have more invested than the cost of an 850 to turbo a fucking 600 and then only have slightly more HP than a stock Poo 650? I guess some idiots would be that fucking dumb.
  7. I was expecting them to release it at least 5 years ago and with more than just a 600 so that by now it would be re-worked for the 998T. What do you think they should have done? Waited another 10 years?
  8. Would have been nice if that amazing used cat resale value was around when I sold mine. It was terrible. Resale on any of the used Doo's I sold over the past decade and a half was far better. Just to be clear, I have no interest in dick....
  9. You call it hating, I call it simply wanting them to do better. I want more choices in the market not less. For fuck sake some people just want nothing but cheerleading for their favorite brand. None of the manufacturers pay me to ride their shit and when I spend my hard earned cash on their shit I want it to meet a certain standard. Something cat has not been able to do for a really long time. You keep cheering them on, riding the old stuff and reminiscing about the good old days. I have a lot of memories of the good old days riding my cats and I want them to build something modern, new and up to par quality wise so that I might ride one again some day. The catalyst is a good START, but far from a finish and enough for everyone in TRF or Georgia to be slapping each other on the back and calling it good enough.
  10. Sorry, but the fact is they have been sitting on their hands otherwise it would not have taken them over a decade to launch the catalyst. There is nothing earth shattering about the catalyst, nothing that could not have been done 5 or six or 7 years ago. Not a revolutionary design, not even a revolutionary engine to go with the me too chassis. Cat is lucky to have diehard fans of the brand that will accept whatever it is they bring to the table and make it work for them. But the number has dwindled significantly at this point. Those you call haters of cat are actually just as fanatical about the sport they are just not willing to spend their hard earned cash on a single brand no matter how shitty the product actually is. Cat will only succeed if they can bring these fans back. Riders of the brand that are just riding the old stuff and not buying new do jack shit to keep the brand in business. That's Cats real problem that needs to be solved.
  11. Can't be. Dumstad says procross is perfect in every way. No need to change a single thing. Hard for me to believe cat fucked up by designing the catalyst.
  12. Yeah, she was an excellent speaker. They are shuffling her to another dead end where they can show how diverse the company is.
  13. Dumstad throwing his hat in the ring? They probably need some gravel work around the plant. Getting that straightened out is likely more productive than what she was able to accomplish over the last two years.
  14. Proven in racing? What does that mean? Have they run a race that lasted to infinity? If so I missed that one. News flash dumstad, race sleds have an entirely different maintenance schedule than trail sleds. Who knows, maybe they actually do run that belt an entire season without changing it. Even if they do that's not infinite but I do understand how you wouldn't get this.
  15. Infinite life. Yeah, sure. Does cat really think their buyers are that fucking stupid? Well, other than dumstad anyway.
  16. Maybe the the shit for brains in DC will give sledders a $7K tax break to buy battery powered sleds that go 50 miles before needing a recharge and 25 miles if you don't ride like dumstad.
  17. Except the dealer I Makes sense for single line dealers but two dealers I work with have Yamaha, Doo and Poo products in their showrooms. There are some smaller dealers with Yamaha only but they are getting fewer and far between. I know of at least one small Yamaha dealer in Northern WI that only has their marine products and no dirt or snow at all. They rent sleds in the winter but they get Doo for their rentals.
  18. Not really sure why Yamaha stays in the snowmobile game at this point. Cannot be much of a money maker as the sales volumes are miniscule so it's not even a good outlet for their motors. Maybe they sell just enough to cover costs or squeek out a tiny bit of profit due to the fact they must have very little manufacturing costs at this point. If anything it's likely the kids sleds that keep them hanging around as the profit margins have to be completely ridiculous on those things at their current price points.
  19. Cat can do better and they should. The call outs are no different than when anyone launches a new chassis and calls it a game changer or some other sort of bullshit when everyone except for dumstad should know better. I already am a genius I guess since I have a green sled but here's my wish list for next year and the only way I'm going to sell it. - Catalyst chassis designed specifically for the yamaha engine - move it back, lay it flat, just make the fucker better balanced and better handling, reduce the weight at least 50lbs. - Upgrade the gauge to anything better than the 80's atari graphics. I don't give a shit about BMW style flat screens, gps, volume knobs, don't care just something that is well integrated and looks like it came from at least the year 2020. - It will have to be Yamaha so make it blue and white, not green because my dealer no longer sells cat That's it. Should not even be that fucking hard. Everything already exists today, even the gauge according to the factory engineers so not even asking for that much. Here's the likely deal breaker. It has to be equal to or less than the competitors sleds because I'm not paying more at todays fucked up sled prices.
  20. There was a ton of discussion going on when cat revamped their 800. Most of it was around the fact that it did not in fact meet the EPA regs, even though cat crowed about it prior to the gen 1 release. The rest was around the fact that it did not perform nearly as well as it should have and it was far from a "160HP class" engine. Rough running, high idling, flame thrower. This was the best summary I could dig up as to what was changed from gen1 to gen2: Here is what's new with the 2020 C-tec2 8000 series engine from Arctic Cat: Updated semi-direct injection, new cylinder with repositioned fuel injector, new combustion chamber, new piston, new higher resolution flywheel with 1 piece construction, new fuel rail w/dual dampers, new fuel calibration, improved valve servo actuation for faster response, more torque and cleaner calibration, reduced emissions, oil delivery through the case with high velocity, sprays directly at the main bearings, eliminate oil spitback through the intake, one piece flywheel quicker reving/reduced harmonics, more teeth provides improved data rate, faster response for map, improved run quality
  21. Have not pissed away any money on a Ford product since 1989. Learned my lesson the first time buying shit.
  22. It's only bad when the two stroke that fails is the one you own.
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