Where will Millennials take the car industry ?

[Highmark]

Don't most passenger trains still have conductors that operate them?   I'd say we are a long ways off self driving cars of any significant number. 

[Mileage Psycho]

3 hours ago, Skidooski said:

If the Millennial Engineer we just hired here is any indication of where the Auto Industry is going I'd say it's headed into the shitter. He specifically moved here to MI from Washington state to work in the Auto Industry but says he's an Application Engineer. Can't read a print to save his life, zero knowledge of any manufacturing capabilities and is a true space cadet. Another one hired as a summer intern is in Nanoengineering

There are a lot of millennials who are turgid employees, but then there are quite a few that are all-stars.

[Skidooski]

1 minute ago, Mileage Psycho said:

There are a lot of millennials who are turgid employees, but then there are quite a few that are all-stars.

I'm sure it's no different then other generations but this particular kid is just a space cadet. It's going to take a decent amount of work to mold him into the type of engineer we want in the long run. Something we were trying to avoid doing , like this anyways, from the start. He literally has very limited knowledge of even how to read a print. 

[Catalina]

They have no passion for cars. But there isn't much to be passionate about. What millennial is going to look back on their youth, and fondly remember their time cruising around in their Corrola for an Accord? Or have a desire to find a car like they had when they were young, and restore it for going to a cruise night?

I have a feeling that anyone who has a '60s muscle car in the garage, hoping to get good money for it someday is going to be very disappointed. Who is going to want to buy it? No one under 40, that's for sure.They won't know what these cars are, won't understand the significance, and have no idea how to take care of them. They believe that was ever built in Detroit is junk.  

Most anything built since the '90s is really quite forgettable,  nothing to look back on and wish to get back. 

[revkevsdi]

2 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said:

I have heard a lot of people under the age of 35 say that.

Yep. Would they rather drive or play on their phones while a computer takes them. When you get to the restaurant do you want to get out right there or spend 10 minutes finding parking? 

It may increase the market for sledding atvs, jet skis mountain bikes and other adventure sports. People may want to relax on their boring commute but will want to be in control at other times. 

[revkevsdi]

2 hours ago, Catalina said:

They have no passion for cars. But there isn't much to be passionate about. What millennial is going to look back on their youth, and fondly remember their time cruising around in their Corrola for an Accord? Or have a desire to find a car like they had when they were young, and restore it for going to a cruise night?

I have a feeling that anyone who has a '60s muscle car in the garage, hoping to get good money for it someday is going to be very disappointed. Who is going to want to buy it? No one under 40, that's for sure.They won't know what these cars are, won't understand the significance, and have no idea how to take care of them. They believe that was ever built in Detroit is junk.  

Most anything built since the '90s is really quite forgettable,  nothing to look back on and wish to get back. 

Part of that issue is policing. 70's and 80's the cops would give you a break. Now you get caught doing 50 k over the limit and your car is gone, your insurance finds out and you are screwed.

hard to get excited about muscle cars when you get screwed for using them. 

[Ez ryder]

3 hours ago, oleroule said:

add the met council to that shooting.

I work on the woman's house who's dad started that boondoggle then she worked it for yrs.  they both were responsible for bringing that pile of shit inflatable toilet down town and shutting down the met. I charge her 2x over standard rates . funk it she is living like a queen has for decades .

[ArcticCrusher]

6 hours ago, Skidooski said:

If the Millennial Engineer we just hired here is any indication of where the Auto Industry is going I'd say it's headed into the shitter. He specifically moved here to MI from Washington state to work in the Auto Industry but says he's an Application Engineer. Can't read a print to save his life, zero knowledge of any manufacturing capabilities and is a true space cadet. Another one hired as a summer intern is in Nanoengineering

Lots of paper engineers but that's good for contractors.

[Skidude600]

3 hours ago, Catalina said:

They have no passion for cars. But there isn't much to be passionate about. What millennial is going to look back on their youth, and fondly remember their time cruising around in their Corrola for an Accord? Or have a desire to find a car like they had when they were young, and restore it for going to a cruise night?

I have a feeling that anyone who has a '60s muscle car in the garage, hoping to get good money for it someday is going to be very disappointed. Who is going to want to buy it? No one under 40, that's for sure.They won't know what these cars are, won't understand the significance, and have no idea how to take care of them. They believe that was ever built in Detroit is junk.  

Most anything built since the '90s is really quite forgettable,  nothing to look back on and wish to get back. 

Oh I don't know. I think it really depends on the influences kids had when they were growing up. While I didn't have a muscle car in the garage, I watched quite a few car shows on the wkend and took my youngest son to car shows. My father has an older corvette that my son digs as well. I've had an 87 K5 Jimmy in the garage that I've been working on and he's right there with me. He now loves anything that's a GM square body and can tell you quite a bit about them. I've already told him that if anything happens to me the Jimmy is his because of the time and effort he's spent working on it with me. I do agree there aren't as many car enthusiasts out there, but I think there is enough to keep the hobby going. 

[racinfarmer]

11 hours ago, Skidooski said:

I'm sure it's no different then other generations but this particular kid is just a space cadet. It's going to take a decent amount of work to mold him into the type of engineer we want in the long run. Something we were trying to avoid doing , like this anyways, from the start. He literally has very limited knowledge of even how to read a print. 

Had a intern at the last job that was going for aerospace engineering.  Med device probably wasn't what he was interested in, but it is where he landed for the internship.  Some of the engineers there where, well, interesting.  

10 hours ago, Catalina said:

They have no passion for cars. But there isn't much to be passionate about. What millennial is going to look back on their youth, and fondly remember their time cruising around in their Corrola for an Accord? Or have a desire to find a car like they had when they were young, and restore it for going to a cruise night?

I have a feeling that anyone who has a '60s muscle car in the garage, hoping to get good money for it someday is going to be very disappointed. Who is going to want to buy it? No one under 40, that's for sure.They won't know what these cars are, won't understand the significance, and have no idea how to take care of them. They believe that was ever built in Detroit is junk.  

Most anything built since the '90s is really quite forgettable,  nothing to look back on and wish to get back. 

One look in our garage is a pretty sad state of affairs in terms of cars.  

[Kivalo]

Self-Driving cars...bring 'em on! No more DWI's and traffic worries will be eased and stress lessoned! 

[Dave]

26 minutes ago, Kivalo said:

Self-Driving cars...bring 'em on! No more DWI's and traffic worries will be eased and stress lessoned! 

Isnt being stuck in traffic the same whether you're driving or not?

[Kivalo]

4 minutes ago, FAT DAVE said:

Isnt being stuck in traffic the same whether you're driving or not?

It always sucks but if your not driving it sucks less. 

[BOHICA]

9 minutes ago, FAT DAVE said:

Isnt being stuck in traffic the same whether you're driving or not?

Traffic would be more efficient, and tightened up formation working in unison.  Less accordion from people that cant drive.  Would be so much quicker 

[Dave]

1 minute ago, BOHICA said:

Traffic would be more efficient, and tightened up formation working in unison.  Less accordion from people that cant drive.  Would be so much quicker 

You know this how?

[BOHICA]

2 minutes ago, FAT DAVE said:

You know this how?

Simple.  Computers are better at many things.  All traffic issues are caused by human.  Cutting people off, slamming on brakes, leaving to much gap, merging.  Ever wonder in a traffic jam why you may stop and then all of a sudden you go like crazy and then come to a stop???  Its human caused

Edited August 25, 2017 by BOHICA

[Dave]

24 minutes ago, BOHICA said:

Simple.  Computers are better at many things.  All traffic issues are caused by human.  Cutting people off, slamming on brakes, leaving to much gap, merging.  Ever wonder in a traffic jam why you may stop and then all of a sudden you go like crazy and then come to a stop???  Its human caused

Computers make mistakes too...

[MiSledder]

20 hours ago, bussman said:

I didn't mean it in a safety aspect. More in a control aspect. 

 

"I can't get out"

"This isn't where I wanted to go"

 

:tin_foil_hat:

 

 

 

Criminals are going be  escorted to jail

Edited August 25, 2017 by MiSledder

[Skidooski]

7 hours ago, racinfarmer said:

Had a intern at the last job that was going for aerospace engineering.  Med device probably wasn't what he was interested in, but it is where he landed for the internship.  Some of the engineers there where, well, interesting.  

The 4 or 5 years I worked in Aerospace I met a bunch of smart and talented engineers. Many of them were a heck of a lot more intelligent then they led on. Some....very introverted yeah. I can't see this poor kid surviving very long in that environment which maybe is why here's over here in the Auto Industry     

[BOHICA]

7 hours ago, FAT DAVE said:

Computers make mistakes too...

Sometimes sure but not as bad as humans.  Traveling home yesterday and hit the Idaho border it took 6 or so miles for traffic to sort itself out on the interstate as you go from 70 to 80 mph speed limit...  takes awhile to get up to 80 mph once hitting Idaho.  Computers would have had me going 80 within the first 1/2 mile as all the vehicles would accelerate.  

I can just see on multiple lane freeways in big city you could have each lane running at capacity at higher speeds bumper to bumper cause the computers would know what's going on a miles ahead as the vehicle would talk constantly and make corrections.

all these new features are such as blind spot monitoring, lane departures and autonomous braking have reduced accidents already

Edited August 25, 2017 by BOHICA

[Dave]

3 minutes ago, BOHICA said:

Sometimes sure but not as bad as humans.  Traveling home yesterday and hit the Idaho border it took 6 or so miles for traffic to sort itself out on the interstate as you go from 70 to 80 mph speed limit...  takes awhile to get up to 80 mph once hitting Idaho.  Computers would have had me going 80 within the first 1/2 mile as all the vehicles would accelerate.  

I can just see on multiple lane freeways in big city you could have each lane running at capacity at higher speeds bumper to bumper cause the computers would know what's going on a miles ahead as the vehicle would talk constantly and make corrections.

all these new features are such as blind spot monitoring, lane departures and autonomous braking have reduced accidents already

No thanks

[Mainecat]

21 hours ago, Highmark said:

Don't most passenger trains still have conductors that operate them?   I'd say we are a long ways off self driving cars of any significant number. 

Not in major cities. Driverless cars will be a huge source of trans in a few years.

[Mainecat]

Millennials read consumer reports and buy what they are told. When asked what they drive most couldnt tell you the make and model.

Although my niece a engineer for GE could spout tech numbers and internal crank pressures of her Subaru

[Skidooski]

1 minute ago, Mainecat said:

Millennials read consumer reports and buy what they are told. When asked what they drive most couldnt tell you the make and model.

Although my niece a engineer for GE could spout tech numbers and internal crank pressures of her Subaru

Millennials are so dumb they don't know what make and model they drive? 

[Catalina]

I think self driving cars are still a ways off for most of us. Might work OK in California, but what happens on the roads in the east, where lines are not painted so well. How will they know where the road is. What happens when there is an inch of snow, and the lines are under the snow? First time it auto brakes, I could see it in the ditch or guard rail. 

How about construction? What happens at a lane shift, or a cop standing in the road at a detail holding up his hand? Is the car going to know enough to stop while the driver is asleep?

Insurance? Who is at fault when the computer makes a mistake and somebody gets killed? You think Ford, Toyota, or anyone else is going to take responsibility? I'm thinking it will be the driver of the car, who better be paying attention. 

I don't see them merging well in rush hour situations, when the highway is crowded.