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Lil Momo told us yesterday Faux Noise is doing a great job of exposimg fake news.....still the case....:snack:

 

Even Faux Noise says the DNC conspiracy Lil Momo, .7 Momo, and Skidmark are pursuing is dead. 

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2 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

Fox news.  Good for you Vincent.  Get back on the path of more accurate news reporting.  Even if that mascara wearing faggot is the token whiney liberal for fox.  

that must be sr on the left then.

and mc on the right.

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2 minutes ago, oleroule said:

that must be sr on the left then.

and mc on the right.

WHew.....that's  a stretch.  Those two idiots sit firmly on CNN and MSNBC.  Funny, I've always thought Sheppard was a whining putz....but know to stay "unbiased" it's important to have him.  I was thinking, maybe we can take the most conservative anchor at either CNN or MSNBC and make a trade.  Then I couldn't think of one they had.  Weird.

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10 minutes ago, SnowRider said:

Lil Momo told us yesterday Faux Noise is,doing a great job of exposimg fake news.....still the case....:snack:

 

Even Faux Noise says the DNC conspiracy Lil Momo, .7 Momo, and Skidmark are pursuing is dead. 

What an IDIOT!  

Bwahahahahahah aaahahahahahahahahah!!!!

Where's your chin?

:lol:

 

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5 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

Fox news.  Good for you Vincent.  Get back on the path of more accurate news reporting.  Even if that mascara wearing faggot is the token whiney liberal for fox.  

Poor MN Momo, it's going to be tough with Fox and the Krauthammer's of the right calling it out as not fake news. But hey there is always Alex Jones and Breitbart for the Momo's of the world :thumb:

 
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Bungled collusion is still collusion
By Charles Krauthammer Opinion writer July 13 
 

The Russia scandal has entered a new phase, and there’s no going back.

For six months, the White House claimed that this scandal was nothing more than innuendo about Trump campaign collusion with Russia in meddling in the 2016 election. Innuendo for which no concrete evidence had been produced.

Yes, there were several meetings with Russian officials, some only belatedly disclosed. But that is circumstantial evidence at best. Meetings tell you nothing unless you know what happened in them. We didn’t. Some of these were casual encounters in large groups, like the famous July 2016 Kislyak-Sessions exchange of pleasantries at the Republican National Convention. Big deal.

I was puzzled. Lots of coverup, but where was the crime? Not even a third-rate burglary. For six months, smoke without fire. Yes, President Trump himself was acting very defensively, as if he were hiding something. But no one ever produced the something.

My view was: Collusion? I just don’t see it. But I’m open to empirical evidence. Show me.

The evidence is now shown. This is not hearsay, not fake news, not unsourced leaks. This is an email chain released by Donald Trump Jr. himself. A British go-between writes that there’s a Russian government effort to help Trump Sr. win the election, and as part of that effort he proposes a meeting with a “Russian government attorney” possessing damaging information on Hillary Clinton. Moreover, the Kremlin is willing to share troves of incriminating documents from the Crown Prosecutor. (Error: Britain has a Crown Prosecutor. Russia has a Prosecutor General.)

Donald Jr. emails back. “I love it.” Fatal words.

Once you’ve said “I’m in,” it makes no difference that the meeting was a bust, that the intermediary brought no such goods. What matters is what Donald Jr. thought going into the meeting, as well as Jared Kushner and then-campaign manager Paul Manafort, who were forwarded the correspondence, invited to the meeting, and attended.

“It was literally just a wasted 20 minutes, which was a shame,” Donald Jr. told Sean Hannity. A shame? On the contrary, a stroke of luck. Had the lawyer real stuff to deliver, Donald Jr. and the others would be in far deeper legal trouble. It turned out to be incompetent collusion, amateur collusion, comically failed collusion. That does not erase the fact that three top Trump campaign officials were ready to play.

It may turn out that they did later collaborate more fruitfully. We don’t know. But even if nothing else is found, the evidence is damning.

It’s rather pathetic to hear Trump apologists protesting that it’s no big deal because we Americans are always intervening in other people’s elections, and they in ours. You don’t have to go back to the ’40s and ’50s when the CIA intervened in France and Italy to keep the communists from coming to power. What about the Obama administration’s blatant interference to try to defeat Benjamin Netanyahu in the latest Israeli election? One might even add the work of groups supported by the U.S. during Russian parliamentary elections — the very origin of Vladimir Putin’s deep animus toward Clinton, then secretary of state, whom he accuses of having orchestrated the opposition.

This defense is pathetic for two reasons. First, have the Trumpites not been telling us for six months that no collusion ever happened? And now they say: Sure it happened. So what? Everyone does it.

What’s left of your credibility when you make such a casual about-face?

Second, no, not everyone does it. It’s one thing to be open to opposition research dug up in Indiana. But not dirt from Russia, a hostile foreign power that has repeatedly invaded its neighbors (Georgia, Crimea, eastern Ukraine), that buzzes our planes and ships in international waters, that opposes our every move and objective around the globe. Just last week the Kremlin killed additional U.N. sanctions we were looking to impose on North Korea for its ICBM test.

There is no statute against helping a foreign hostile power meddle in an American election. What Donald Jr. — and Kushner and Manafort — did may not be criminal. But it is not merely stupid. It is also deeply wrong, a fundamental violation of any code of civic honor.

I leave it to the lawyers to adjudicate the legalities of unconsummated collusion. But you don’t need a lawyer to see that the Trump defense — collusion as a desperate Democratic fiction designed to explain away a lost election — is now officially dead.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bungled-collusion-is-still-collusion/2017/07/13/68c7f72a-67f3-11e7-8eb5-cbccc2e7bfbf_story.html

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

WHew.....that's  a stretch.  Those two idiots sit firmly on CNN and MSNBC.  Funny, I've always thought Sheppard was a whining putz....but know to stay "unbiased" it's important to have him.  I was thinking, maybe we can take the most conservative anchor at either CNN or MSNBC and make a trade.  Then I couldn't think of one they had.  Weird.

i see it as both smith and wallace are lefties playing an 'independent' (and you know what i mean by 'independent') character on their shows.

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12 minutes ago, SnowRider said:

Lil Momo told us yesterday Faux Noise is,doing a great job of exposimg fake news.....still the case....:snack:

 

Even Faux Noise says the DNC conspiracy Lil Momo, .7 Momo, and Skidmark are pursuing is dead. 

You can't fix eternally stupid :lol: 

5 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

WHew.....that's  a stretch.  Those two idiots sit firmly on CNN and MSNBC.  Funny, I've always thought Sheppard was a whining putz....but know to stay "unbiased" it's important to have him.  I was thinking, maybe we can take the most conservative anchor at either CNN or MSNBC and make a trade.  Then I couldn't think of one they had.  Weird.

You call that thinking? :lol::lol: 

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20 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said:

Poor MN Momo, it's going to be tough with Fox and the Krauthammer's of the right calling it out as not fake news. But hey there is always Alex Jones and Breitbart for the Momo's of the world :thumb:

 

 

Not hard at all.....I know what I read and know what I believe.  Let's let this all play out.  Dems need to be very worried at what is "in the weeds": here.  I can still call what you idiots watch "fake news" cuz most of it is.  Just opinion peices from losers with butt-hurtitus. :lmao:

 

18 minutes ago, SnowRider said:

Lil Momo/Ole Drule :groin: Vince/SR

 

:lmao: 

LOL...you should stop "helping" your side here....ZERO CREDIBILITY. :lol: Loser.  CHIN?  Where's that go? :lmao:

 

18 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said:

You can't fix eternally stupid :lol: 

You call that thinking? :lol::lol: 

:lol:

You're trying too hard.  Way too hard. :lmao:

 

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7 minutes ago, oleroule said:

i see it as both smith and wallace are lefties playing an 'independent' (and you know what i mean by 'independent') character on their shows.

Smith is a whiney liberal queer.  Always has been.  I think Wallace is pretty good.  I believe him to be staunchly on the side of his profession: .journalism.  I think he does a good job for the most part.  But he's made a few comments about Trump calling out the biased media that tell me he takes personal exception to Trump's comments.  And he shouldn't.  He's trying to defend what used to be a lot more honest and honorable profession....and I get that.  But it also tells me he's not looking around without his unbiased journalistic glasses on sometimes.  I wonder if he's ever done a piece about the hacky news media/fake news.  He delivers pretty good monologues sometimes.  Maybe I'll search.....

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Just now, Cold War said:

Yeah, the country is just riveted.

It is like 9/11 all over again...... right mc?     :lol:

I know , I know......Do you even watch the news  CNN or MSNBC!!!!!!!??????  :lol:

There. :lmao:

 

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21 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

There. :lmao:

 

:bc:

I do love the logic of here is the story on the network ....and I Quote   " if it wasn't for lies  they would report nothing".  I guess it is settled. 

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2 minutes ago, Cold War said:

:bc:

I do love the logic of here is the story on the network ....and I Quote   " if it wasn't for lies  they would report nothing".  I guess it is settled. 

Token liberal.  Good thing is, Fox doesn't have to worry about him having any females on staff complaining 'bout his sexual harassment.  He does probably steal their make up though.

:lol:

 

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Fake news! :lol:

Vince you could post a live video of the Trump's killing and eating babies and the Trump loyals wouldn't care. They'd call em liberal babies and we are better off for it! :lol:

 

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the trumps can't even do collusion properly even when it's handed to them on a silver platter. how in the fuck did these morons ever get to their station in life? and these shit for brains, egomaniacs are running the country?

oh yeah, when a republican loses charles "the corpse" krauthammer,,,,,it's time to start packing. :lol: 

the shit is starting to get real. 

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16 minutes ago, Anler said:

Fake news! :lol:

Vince you could post a live video of the Trump's killing and eating babies and the Trump loyals wouldn't care. They'd call em liberal babies and we are better off for it! :lol:

 

hatred for hillary is a powerfully blinding force. 

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I said it during the campaign and several times since, Trump is your garden variety realtor. He will say anything to achieve the desired result and if he's ever called on it he will backpedal, deflect, attempt to redefine his words, shift blame, or outright lie. 

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