Let's Play.... "WHO SAID IT?"

[01mxz800]

I think Ben Netinutjob said that to obummer a few years back, I will check with CNN to be sure

[Rod]

Lol Obama LOVED meddling in elections

[Wildboer]

1 hour ago, Rod Johnson said:

Lol Obama LOVED meddling in elections

Elaborate... I could use a good chuckle.

[Rod]

7 hours ago, Wildboer said:

Elaborate... I could use a good chuckle.

His admin meddled In the Israeli election 

[Wildboer]

4 hours ago, Rod Johnson said:

His admin meddled In the Israeli election 

 you fuckers do love conspiracy theories.

[Rod]

28 minutes ago, Wildboer said:

 you fuckers do love conspiracy theories.

Except.... it happened

[Wildboer]

33 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said:

Except.... it happened

No, you guys pretended that aid money was being used to fund Netanyahu's opposition, if I remember correctly congress came up empty handed after that fishing trip.

[Rod]

5 minutes ago, Wildboer said:

No, you guys pretended that aid money was being used to fund Netanyahu's opposition, if I remember correctly congress came up empty handed after that fishing trip.

The money went to a group and they worked actively against Netanyahu

[Wildboer]

6 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said:

The money went to a group and they worked actively against Netanyahu

That's very different than Obama meddling in the election. If you need an explainer here you go: http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/mar/25/blog-posting/blog-claims-us-funded-anti-netanyahu-election-effo/

[Rod]

38 minutes ago, Wildboer said:

That's very different than Obama meddling in the election. If you need an explainer here you go: http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/mar/25/blog-posting/blog-claims-us-funded-anti-netanyahu-election-effo/

No that's exactly what it is 

[Momorider]

3 hours ago, Wildboer said:

No, you guys pretended that aid money was being used to fund Netanyahu's opposition, if I remember correctly congress came up empty handed after that fishing trip.

Barry sent a team of operatives over to help the opposition you ignoramus, not a conspiracy it happened he also just fucked in the French election. he is a steaming pile of monkey feces  like you 

[DriftBusta]

 

17 hours ago, Wildboer said:

No, you guys pretended that aid money was being used to fund Netanyahu's opposition, if I remember correctly congress came up empty handed after that fishing trip.

If you're not informed, and don't follow these things over a long period of time, or have A.D.D., you just don't know.  Obama meddled in the election, with people, and dollars.  Fact.  I really enjoy the part about the state department department operatives deleting emails.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/01/26/obama-campaign-team-arrives-in-israel-to-defeat-netanyahu-in-march-elections/

http://thehill.com/policy/international/236875-rubio-obama-sent-operatives-to-israel-to-defeat-netanyahu

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/obama-admin-sent-taxpayer-money-oust-netanyahu/

[Snake]

17 hours ago, Wildboer said:

That's very different than Obama meddling in the election. If you need an explainer here you go: http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/mar/25/blog-posting/blog-claims-us-funded-anti-netanyahu-election-effo/

Still young enough to read and believe Politifact...

[Snake]

1 minute ago, Snake said:

Still young enough to read and believe Politifact...

As we shall see, it is journalism professor Mitchell Stephens writing (supposedly sober) in the June 26 Politico with startling admissions about anti-Trump bias in the mainstream media that even the slightly coherent among us were aware of but which many liberal journalists still very unconvincingly deny. Stephens is a flat out liberal obviously antagonistic towards Trump but his saving grace is his shocking honesty about the current state of journalism which is revealed in his article title, Goodbye Nonpartisan Journalism. And Good Riddance.

 

 

We don’t yet know to what extent Donald Trump will succeed in remaking the United States, but his candidacy and presidency are already remaking American journalism.

It is not just that the ranting and raving on talk radio, on cable news, on websites, on Twitter have grown, if anything, louder. What’s more significant is how the political world’s encounter with Trump is changing our most respected journalism organizations—including the New York Times, the Washington Post, the network evening newscasts and CNN.

 

The big news is that many of our best journalists seem, in news coverage, not just opinion pieces, to be moving away from balance and nonpartisanship.

Is this the end of all that is good and decent in American journalism? Nah. I say good for them. An abandonment of the pretense to “objectivity”—in many ways a return to American journalism’s roots—is long overdue.

Our legacy journalism organizations—including NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, NPR, PBS, the Associated Press and most daily newspapers—were slow to recognize the new order and find their voices in the din. They continued to police themselves for tilts and biases and remained a little vanilla well into the 21st century. Indeed, their obsession with nonpartisanship lingered long enough to leave them deeply vulnerable to manipulation by a boisterous, rudderless presidential candidate like Trump.

...Better that journalists surrender the old pretense to objectivity entirely. Our best reporters must still dig and keep digging, check and double check as they investigate. They must still be fair to those they cover and give credit or blame where due. But can’t we now acknowledge that the New York Times and the Washington Post—in their take on the news as well as in their editorials—are deeply skeptical about Trump’s presidency? Is it not time for CNN and the others who are in that camp to own up to it too?

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/26/goodbye-nonpartisan-journalism-and-good-riddance-215305

[Zambroski]

10 minutes ago, Snake said:

Still young enough to read and believe Politifact...

When a fact checking site that claims to be un-biased is, in fact, so biased that other sites are actually started to confront their bias.  Yep....pretty fucked.

6 minutes ago, Snake said:

As we shall see, it is journalism professor Mitchell Stephens writing (supposedly sober) in the June 26 Politico with startling admissions about anti-Trump bias in the mainstream media that even the slightly coherent among us were aware of but which many liberal journalists still very unconvincingly deny. Stephens is a flat out liberal obviously antagonistic towards Trump but his saving grace is his shocking honesty about the current state of journalism which is revealed in his article title, Goodbye Nonpartisan Journalism. And Good Riddance.

 

 

We don’t yet know to what extent Donald Trump will succeed in remaking the United States, but his candidacy and presidency are already remaking American journalism.

It is not just that the ranting and raving on talk radio, on cable news, on websites, on Twitter have grown, if anything, louder. What’s more significant is how the political world’s encounter with Trump is changing our most respected journalism organizations—including the New York Times, the Washington Post, the network evening newscasts and CNN.

 

The big news is that many of our best journalists seem, in news coverage, not just opinion pieces, to be moving away from balance and nonpartisanship.

Is this the end of all that is good and decent in American journalism? Nah. I say good for them. An abandonment of the pretense to “objectivity”—in many ways a return to American journalism’s roots—is long overdue.

Our legacy journalism organizations—including NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, NPR, PBS, the Associated Press and most daily newspapers—were slow to recognize the new order and find their voices in the din. They continued to police themselves for tilts and biases and remained a little vanilla well into the 21st century. Indeed, their obsession with nonpartisanship lingered long enough to leave them deeply vulnerable to manipulation by a boisterous, rudderless presidential candidate like Trump.

...Better that journalists surrender the old pretense to objectivity entirely. Our best reporters must still dig and keep digging, check and double check as they investigate. They must still be fair to those they cover and give credit or blame where due. But can’t we now acknowledge that the New York Times and the Washington Post—in their take on the news as well as in their editorials—are deeply skeptical about Trump’s presidency? Is it not time for CNN and the others who are in that camp to own up to it too?

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/26/goodbye-nonpartisan-journalism-and-good-riddance-215305

Good read.

[Wildboer]

4 hours ago, Snake said:

Still young enough to read and believe Politifact...

The truth has a well known liberal bias. 

5 hours ago, DriftBusta said:

 

If you're not informed, and don't follow these things over a long period of time, or have A.D.D., you just don't know.  Obama meddled in the election, with people, and dollars.  Fact.  I really enjoy the part about the state department department operatives deleting emails.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/01/26/obama-campaign-team-arrives-in-israel-to-defeat-netanyahu-in-march-elections/

http://thehill.com/policy/international/236875-rubio-obama-sent-operatives-to-israel-to-defeat-netanyahu

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/obama-admin-sent-taxpayer-money-oust-netanyahu/

Breitbart? I read the other two, but I'm not giving that shit hole any traffic. It's still a real reach to call it Obama meddling in Israel. A side effect of a state department with goals that don't align with Netanyahu, sure. Improper? Sure. A conspiracy to oust Netanyahu? Not so much...