ActionfigureJoe Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) - A request for detailed information about every voter in the U.S. from President Donald Trump's voting commission is getting a rocky reception from states - and he's not happy about it. Some of the most populous states, including California and New York, are refusing to comply. But even some conservative states that voted for Trump, such as Texas, say they can provide only partial responses based on what is legally allowed under state law. "Numerous states are refusing to give information to the very distinguished VOTER FRAUD PANEL. What are they trying to hide?," Trump said in a tweet Saturday. Given the mishmash of information Trump's commission will receive, it's unclear how useful it will be or what the commission will do with it. Trump established the commission to investigate allegations of voter fraud in the 2016 elections, but Democrats have blasted it as a biased panel that is merely looking for ways to suppress the vote. New Hampshire Secretary of State Bill Gardner, a Democrat who is a member of Trump's Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity, defended the request Friday. He said the commission expected that many states would only partially comply because open records laws differ from state to state. "If only half the states agree, we'll have to talk about that. I think, whatever they do, we'll work with that," said Gardner, adding that the commission will discuss the survey at its July 19 meeting. He said he has received calls from unhappy constituents who said they didn't want Trump to see their personal information. "But this is not private, and a lot of people don't know that," he said. White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders blasted the decision by some governors and secretaries of state not to comply. "I think that that's mostly about a political stunt," she told reporters at a White House briefing Friday It's not just Democrats bristling at the requested information. Mississippi Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann, a Republican serving his third term, said in a statement he had not received the commission's request. If he does receive it? "My reply would be: They can go jump in the Gulf of Mexico, and Mississippi is a great state to launch from," he said. "Mississippi residents should celebrate Independence Day and our state's right to protect the privacy of our citizens by conducting our own electoral processes." In a federal court case after a contentious U.S. Senate primary in Mississippi in 2014, a group called True the Vote sued Mississippi seeking similar information about voters. Hosemann fought that request and won. No state election official planned to provide the commission with all of the information requested - even Kansas, where commission vice chairman Kris Kobach is secretary of state. He sent the letter asking for the names, party affiliations, addresses, voting histories, felony convictions, military service and the last four digits of Social Security numbers for all voters. A spokeswoman for Kobach's office said the last four digits of Social Security numbers are not publicly available under Kansas law and would not be handed over. That was the case in many other states, noted in statements from top election officials and responses to queries from reporters for The Associated Press. Officials in 10 states and the District of Columbia said they would not comply at all with the request. Those states are California, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Mississippi, New Mexico, New York, South Dakota, Tennessee and Virginia. Oklahoma, where nearly two-thirds of the vote in the November presidential election went to Trump, will provide nearly all the commission's request, save for one bit of information: Social Security numbers. "That's not publicly available under the laws of our state," said Bryan Dean, spokesman for the Oklahoma State Election Board. Dean said the commission's request will be treated like any other from the general public. The election board will tell the panel to fill out an online form asking for the information. Oklahoma's voter roll is routinely provided to political campaigns, the press and other groups that ask for it. The letter from the presidential commission gives secretaries of state about two weeks to provide the voter data and other information, including any evidence of fraud and election-related crimes in their states. It also asks for suggestions on improving election security. Some Democratic officials have refused to comply with the data request, saying it invades privacy and is based on false claims of fraud. Trump, who created the commission through executive order in May, lost the popular vote to Democrat Hillary Clinton but has alleged without evidence that up to 5 million people voted illegally. ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Sure, they claim his allegation is "without evidence". And when the commission tries to get any evidence they are stone walled. Seems legit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted July 1, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 1, 2017 Gee Greg is this how you spend your time....obsessing over Trump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 I admit I don't care for the info they are requesting. Mostly because it would probably still be there in 2040 when the dems take back the presidency...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mainecat Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 He should just ask Putin for the info. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Must be embarrassing to have to admit there's voter fraud in your state. Let's just keep that swept under the rug and keep calling Trump a liar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 22 minutes ago, franks pond said: Yea what are Texas, Mississippi and Tennessee trying to hide anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 I'm willing to bet they find some fraud. To what extent, I don't know, but I bet they find some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 45 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: Yea what are Texas, Mississippi and Tennessee trying to hide anyway? "... and republicans just fall in lock step....." "... sheep..." Tell us Grand Swami, which is it already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ez ryder Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Mainecat said: He should just ask Putin for the info. why don't you want any one to investigate vote fraud ? one would think this would be something you would be in to . don't you want to know if Russia hacked the election or if they sent soviet trained voters to the polls to keep Hillary out ? or do you think the left has something much much larger to loose if any one looks to deep? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zambroski Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 7 hours ago, Edmo said: Must be embarrassing to have to admit there's voter fraud in your state. Let's just keep that swept under the rug and keep calling Trump a liar. That's really it in a big fat nutshell. And that's what Trump people see. Too bad the others are too stupid and think this is "winning" by denying this information to the WH. They weren't expecting to get it your lib-tards! They expected and want responses just like this! GO DONNY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 13 hours ago, Zambroski said: That's really it in a big fat nutshell. And that's what Trump people see. Too bad the others are too stupid and think this is "winning" by denying this information to the WH. They weren't expecting to get it your lib-tards! They expected and want responses just like this! GO DONNY!!!! The information they want goes as far as providing the last 4 of your SSN with name and party affiliation. Fuck that. Find a better way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, Snake said: The information they want goes as far as providing the last 4 of your SSN with name and party affiliation. Fuck that. Find a better way. I don't have a problem with that. One SSN=1 vote. Not sure why this is hard to make happen. You need a social for everydamn thing else....except to get money from the state and fed if you are an illegal....oh....wait.....I get it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, Zambroski said: I don't have a problem with that. One SSN=1 vote. Not sure why this is hard to make happen. You need a social for everydamn thing else....except to get money from the state and fed if you are an illegal....oh....wait.....I get it now. Would you change your mind if a democrat administration wanted the info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Just now, Snake said: Would you change your mind if a democrat administration wanted the info? No....don't care. In fact, if Dems wanted it....I'd be fucking impressed. Again, 1 SSN=1 vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 they already know your SS# they gave it to you . they know what party you are registered with already .what is the prob ? well beyond exposing decades of fraud that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: they already know your SS# they gave it to you . they know what party you are registered with already .what is the prob ? well beyond exposing decades of fraud that is Exactly, all this is/was is a way to show us the voter fraud that is going on. I love the states/cities/registrars saying "fuck you TRUMP!!", and the Dems getting all "in your face" about it all. Maddow had a cow about it as she laughed and laughed. "Intellectually elite". I'm truly starting to realize Trump's WH is A LOT smarter than even I was giving them credit for. It just takes some rethinking outside of the political status quo box. I'd be willing to bet the amount of deceased, illegal, imaginary citizens and duplicate votes in America is at an ASTOUNDING number....and guess who they are voting for? Ummmm......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01mxz800 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 22 hours ago, Ez ryder said: why don't you want any one to investigate vote fraud ? one would think this would be something you would be in to . don't you want to know if Russia hacked the election or if they sent soviet trained voters to the polls to keep Hillary out ? or do you think the left has something much much larger to loose if any one looks to deep? they just might just find out that even with slithery stuffing ballot boxes she still got her ass handed to her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 20 hours ago, Snake said: The information they want goes as far as providing the last 4 of your SSN with name and party affiliation. Fuck that. Find a better way. You can buy the information from most states, they are just being pricks cuz it's Trump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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