How's the wall coming along?

[ActionfigureJoe]

any word from you trump people on the wall? i haven't been following it's construction as closely as I should. I bet it's looking pretty good by now. 

Edited June 20, 2017 by ActionfigureJoe

[Jimmy Snacks]

Don't know but illegal border crossings are down.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/08/us/trump-immigration-border.html

[Edmo]

Just now, Biggie Smails said:

Don't know but illegal border crossings are down.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/08/us/trump-immigration-border.html

Like way down. Who knew we just needed to enforce the laws we have already? #winning

[Skidooski]

1 minute ago, Biggie Smails said:

Don't know but illegal border crossings are down.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/08/us/trump-immigration-border.html

Good! If nothing less all his talk about the wall might keep the number of illegals coming in down or force them to go to Canada so we can hear them bitch about it

[Zambroski]

Yeah....apparently just the talk of a wall and letting those freeloaders know the jig is up has worked very, very well.  IDGAF if we ever build a wall.  Let's just start enforcing the immigration laws we have on the books.  Amazingly, that seems to work well for other nations.  Weird.

[Skidooski]

Even though the number of Illegals coming in seems to be down they still want to bitch about not having a wall when they bitched about building the wall in the first place. Bunch of crying Nancy's just moving from one bullshit narrative to another then recycling them and starting over.

[ICEMAN!]

29 minutes ago, Skidooski said:

Even though the number of Illegals coming in seems to be down they still want to bitch about not having a wall when they bitched about building the wall in the first place. Bunch of crying Nancy's just moving from one bullshit narrative to another then recycling them and starting over.

The ones that are still coming are bad hombres

[Skidooski]

2 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said:

The ones that are still coming are bad hombres

They are just passing through on their way up to Canada   

[Mainecat]

You will be saying Donald stop the walls you will be so tired of the wall.

[Skidooski]

2 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

You will be saying Donald stop the walls you will be so tired of the wall.

Just like all the Palin threads waaaay after they lost? We sure got tired of you posting about her...."keeping her relevant" 

How's that old bag Hillary doing? 

[XCR1250]

Obama's Promises, how'd he do?

 

Promises earn this rating when they accomplish substantially less than the official’s original statement but when there is still a significant accomplishment that is consistent with the goal of his original promise.

Begin removing combat brigades from Iraq

The United States remains entangled in Iraq despite Obama’s early promise to end the war. About 150,000 troops were deployed in Iraq when Obama entered office in 2009, and the last convoys left in December 2011. But since then, with the Islamic State gaining ground and the Iraqi military starting to crumble, the United States launched a new military operation, Inherent Resolve, in 2014. There are still about 5,000 U.S. soldiers in Iraq, and hundreds of U.S. troops have advised and assisted Iraqi forces in campaigns to retake the city of Mosul from ISIS. That’s far less than the number of troops in Iraq at the beginning of the Obama presidency, but it’s not a full withdrawal. We rated this a Compromise.

Cut taxes for 95 percent of American families

Back in 2008, Obama promised to enact a tax credit equivalent to approximately $500 for workers. He got his wish for tax years 2009 and 2010, but the Making Work Pay tax credit maxed out at $400, not $500. After the tax cut expired, Obama then negotiated a bipartisan tax package that include a tax "holiday" for payroll taxes (workers paid 4.2 percent instead of 6.2 percent in 2012). Since then, Obama revived his original promise in his 2015 State of the Union Address and 2016 fiscal year budget, but those proposals haven’t gone anywhere. All in all, this amounts to a Compromise.

Repeal the Bush tax cuts for higher incomes

The rich are paying more in taxes under Obama, but not as much as he wanted. In 2008, Obama proposed to allow the tax cuts enacted under his predecessor to expire. After agreeing to a two-year extension of the Bush-era rates, Obama came out with a Compromise. In late 2012, the White House and Congressional Republicans agreed to return the top marginal rate to 39.6 percent from 35 percent, but the income threshold was almost double what Obama proposed: $450,00 for joint incomes, rather than $250,000.

Restrict warrantless wiretaps

When the National Security Agency’s warrantless wiretapping program came into the public eye in 2008, then-candidate Obama pledged to provide more oversight and accountability in government surveillance practices. As president, Obama signed the USA Freedom Act in June 2015, which ended the bulk collection of metadata and instead requires the NSA to make the case that there are reasonable suspicions that its surveillance targets are linked to terrorism. But it’s unclear whether the government will give the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court enough information to perform its oversight function. In sum, the legislation limiting wiretapping is hardly ironclad and amounts to a Compromise.

Secure the borders

Eight before Donald Trump was talking about a massive wall along the southern border, Obama pledged to tighten border control with additional personnel, infrastructure and technology. Obama has added more border control agents, fencing and detection to prevent border crossings. The number of people U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement removed reached an all-time high at 409,849 in 2012 before falling to 240,225 in 2016, according to ICE. At the same time, independent reports indicate that a good chunk of the border is still not secure. We rate this a Compromise.

Secure nuclear weapons materials in four years

Obama took interest in safeguarding the world’s nuclear weapons as a senator, and continued to pursue his goal into his presidency (and received a Nobel Peace Prize for his agenda in 2009). He oversaw a renewed commitment from more than 50 countries, continued the removal of plutonium and uranium, and implemented a 1991 bill that provides funding and expertise to former Soviet Union countries to dismantle their stockpiles. While Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine are now nuclear-free, Russia pulled out of the deal in 2013 and said it would carry out its own efforts, giving pause to American experts. Measuring the success of Obama’s pledge to "detect and stop the smuggling of weapons of mass destruction" is also difficult, leading us to rate this a Compromise.

Sign a "universal" health care bill

Obama’s signature achievement — the Affordable Care Act — didn’t quite live up to his campaign goals. Undoubtedly, the law has reduced the uninsured population. But about 10 percent of the country remains without coverage, largely due to a 2012 Supreme Court decision that made it optional for states to expand Medicaid, the health care program for the poor. So far, 19 states have refused the expansion. By the latest estimates, 28.5 million people remained uninsured in 2015. We rate this a Compromise.

Create 5 million "green" jobs

Obama has made progress toward his vision of a thriving clean energy economy. Thanks in part to tax credits for renewable technology, the number of "green" jobs has ballooned. As of March 2016, there were 2.5 million jobs in clean energy alone, and solar power jobs doubled in the past five years. But we can’t know for sure just how many of these jobs were created during Obama’s time in office, as the Bureau of Labor Statistics stopped counting "green" jobs in 2013 and there was no baseline to begin with. We rate this a Compromise.

The promise has not been fulfilled. This could occur because of inaction by the executive or lack of support from the legislative branch or other group that was critical for the promise to be fulfilled. A Promise Broken rating does not necessarily mean that the executive failed to advocate for the policy.

Create a foreclosure prevention fund for homeowners

The expectation was to offer relief to 9 million homeowners; the reality was a sliver of aid delivered. The Democratic-led Congress approved a multi-billion gesture to underwater homeowners — at $75 billion, an amount more than seven times what Obama promised — using the Troubled Asset Relief Program and the government sponsored mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. But even the special inspector general for the Troubled Asset Relief Program called the housing program "a colossal failure" on the Treasury Department’s watch. Lax oversight and enforcement makes this a Promise Broken.

Close the Guantanamo Bay Detention Center

Obama significantly downsized the prisoner population at Guantanamo Bay, but the controversial detention center remains open. Obama’s repeated efforts to make good on this pledge have been met with consistent opposition from Congress. Two days after he was sworn in, Obama issued an executive order to close the prison at the U.S. Navy base in Cuba within one year. But Congress refused to fund the shuttering of the facility. While Obama reduced the number of detainees by 76 percent and made a number of changes to detention policies (such as giving military trials for prisoners, creating a periodic review process, allowing transfers to foreign countries, creating a Pentagon post to handle transfers), these actions fall short of closing Guantanamo. We rate this Promise Broken.

Tougher rules against revolving door for lobbyists and former government officials

On his first day in office, Obama signed an executive order placing restrictions on lobbyists working in the White House, as he promised to do during the campaign. But the order contained loopholes. The Obama administration has granted waivers to several former lobbyists and allowed lobbyists to recuse themselves from discussions on lobbying interests. That flatly contradicts his pledge that no lobbyists would "work on regulations or contracts directly and substantially related to their prior employer for two years." Promise Broken.

Provide a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants

The Supreme Court and Congress have blocked Obama’s efforts to help millions of illegal immigrants temporarily avoid deportation. In 2013, the Senate unveiled an immigration bill that included a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants, but it went nowhere in the House. Obama then acted on his own, announcing two programs by executive order to delay the deportation of undocumented immigrants who arrived as children and those who have U.S.-citizen children. These intended to provide temporary reprieve with the hopes that Congress would ultimately agree on a path to citizenship. But on June 23, 2016, the Supreme Court deadlocked 4-4 on a case related to the efforts. We rate this a Promise Broken.

Reduce oil consumption by 35 percent by 2030

The United States continues to guzzle gas, and more of it. While Obama set new standards for fuel efficiency, curbing oil use, it hasn’t been enough. In 2009, the United States consumed 18.7 million barrels of oil every day. In 2015, the U.S. consumed more, about 19.4 million barrels per day. By 2030, the U.S. is projected to use 19.1 million barrels per day. That’s a slight decrease from 2015 and less oil than what the government previously predicted (20.2 million barrels) but consumption is not on track on to drop by a dramatic of a pace as Obama’s goal. Promise Broken.

Create cap and trade system with interim goals to reduce global warming

In the early days of the Obama presidency, it seemed like the impossible had a chance of becoming reality: The Democratic-led House of Representatives passed legislation to address climate change. The House bill set limits on carbon emissions and then permitted companies to buy and sell carbon allowances, called cap and trade. But the plan that passed in June 2009 never made it to a vote in the Senate. Obama himself acknowledged defeat and a Promise Broken when he said cap-and-trade was "just one way of skinning the cat" and he’d pursue his goal through other means. (Which he did.)

Cut the cost of a typical family's health insurance premium by up to $2,500 a year

Dubbed one of the most audacious pledges of the campaign, Obama’s promise to cut the annual cost of insurance by $2,500 was perhaps too bold. The average sticker price for family coverage is actually almost $5,500 more than it was when he took office ($12,680 in 2008 versus $18,142 in 2016). It should be noted that average family premiums have actually been increasing at historically slow rates under Obama (about 20 percent from 2011 to 2016 versus 31 percent from 2006 to 2011, and 63 percent from 2001 to 2006). But that doesn’t negate the fact that they’re still rising. We rated this Promise Broken.

Bring Democrats and Republicans together to pass an agenda

Obama campaigned on a message of hope and unity, but bitter gridlock and increasing partisanship has come to define the political climate today. Congress has set or matched records year after year for polarization. Republicans voted almost entirely along party lines, and against Democrats the good majority of of the time in 2015. There is, however, a silver lining: While 2010 to 2014 were among the least productive legislative sessions in modern history, Congress actually passed the most laws since Obama took office in 2015, just not the ones Obama wanted. We rated this Promise Broken.

   

[Edmo]

Ouch!  

[ICEMAN!]

Here's a list of Trump's legislative accomplishments

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Ez ryder]

2 hours ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

any word from you trump people on the wall? i haven't been following it's construction as closely as I should. I bet it's looking pretty good by now. 

something like 10 contractors submitted plans and are building sample sections in western Texas I believe    

[racer254]

2 hours ago, Skidooski said:

Even though the number of Illegals coming in seems to be down they still want to bitch about not having a wall when they bitched about building the wall in the first place. Bunch of crying Nancy's just moving from one bullshit narrative to another then recycling them and starting over.

 

1 hour ago, ICEMAN! said:

The ones that are still coming are bad hombres

I didn't think there were any bad immigrants coming into the US from Mexico?  I thought is was all just some nice folk trying to make a good life for themselves and their family?   Who knew?

Edited June 20, 2017 by racer254

[Angry ginger]

2 hours ago, Edmo said:

Like way down. Who knew we just needed to enforce the laws we have already? #winning

so your saying the walls a complete waste of money right like most rational people would  

 

 

[Mileage Psycho]

15 minutes ago, racer254 said:

 

I didn't think there were any bad immigrants coming into the US from Mexico?  I thought is was all just some nice folk trying to make a good life for themselves and their family?   Who knew?

Can't wait till harvest time  

[racer254]

1 minute ago, Mileage Psycho said:

Can't wait till harvest time  

What do you harvest?

[Jimmy Snacks]

8 minutes ago, racer254 said:

What do you harvest?

 

10 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said:

Can't wait till harvest time  

He harvests self importance, cuntiness and bullshit.

[racer254]

Just now, Biggie Smails said:

 

He harvests self importance, cuntiness and bullshit.

Bumper crop!!!!

[ICEMAN!]

38 minutes ago, racer254 said:

 

I didn't think there were any bad immigrants coming into the US from Mexico?  I thought is was all just some nice folk trying to make a good life for themselves and their family?   Who knew?

Why would you think that?  Trump has decreed otherwise.

[Highmark]

I love when nooks are involved in our immigration discussions.   They have to pay people to want to live there.   

[Skidooski]

15 minutes ago, Highmark said:

I love when nooks are involved in our immigration discussions.   They have to pay people to want to live there.   

Give it time and they will most likely start speaking out about their own illegals crossing their boarder. The flood gates are open and Trumps talk has them moving north

[Edmo]

1 hour ago, Angry ginger said:

so your saying the walls a complete waste of money right like most rational people would  

 

 

So what's happening this week/year is always going to be exactly the same? No. We need something there. Wall, fence, armed guards...something.

 

[oleroule]

2 hours ago, ICEMAN! said:

Here's a list of Trump's legislative accomplishments

 

Edited June 20, 2017 by oleroule