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4 minutes ago, Back Country Rebel said:

Oil.  It's why BP, ExxonMobile and Chevron are still there.  Only a momo couldn't understand that.  

Why....what was wrong in the world oil market that necessitated the invasion of Iraq?

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9 minutes ago, Back Country Rebel said:

Oil.  It's why BP, ExxonMobile and Chevron are still there.  Only a momo couldn't understand that.  

that was a small part of it ....the bigger part was to blow through a few trillion in ordinance so we could buy new stuff....and to funnel a few more trillion to defense contractors pockets........also just to test americans appetite for fairly low casualty perpetual war

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Just now, Biggie Smails said:

Why....what was wrong in the world oil market that necessitated the invasion of Iraq?

Iraq has more known reserves than any country on the planet,regardless of what you might read elsewhere.  Those reserves are super easy to get to and they are very close to existing transportation systems.  BP, Exxon and Chevron solicited their respective governments and essentially convinced them that once Saddam Hussein was gone they would be able to get oil to market from some of the dilapidated fields in mere months.  The US and Britain just knew the Iraqi people would welcome them with open arms and would love the wealth all these oil resources would create for the average iraqi.  

 

Dozens of other countries in the region and africa had brutal dictators and we didn't invade those countries.  The difference is they don't have any oil.  

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2 minutes ago, f7ben said:

that was a small part of it ....the bigger part was to blow through a few trillion in ordinance so we could buy new stuff....and to funnel a few more trillion to defense contractors pockets........also just to test americans appetite for fairly low casualty perpetual war

Yea.  All those things played a part too. :bc: 

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3 minutes ago, f7ben said:

that was a small part of it ....the bigger part was to blow through a few trillion in ordinance so we could buy new stuff....and to funnel a few more trillion to defense contractors pockets........also just to test americans appetite for fairly low casualty perpetual war

it's a lot simpler than that. baby bush was sore about saddam threatening his daddy. 

how long do you think it would take saddam to clean up isis? 

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13 minutes ago, Back Country Rebel said:

Oil.  It's why BP, ExxonMobile and Chevron are still there.  Only a momo couldn't understand that.  

imo that was the original plan, when they thought we'd march right in there to cheers and flowers. once things got ugly and hatred for us went exponential, i think they had to divvy the oil up more. 

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1 minute ago, spin_dry said:

it's a lot simpler than that. baby bush was sore about sadism threatening his daddy. 

how long do you think it would take sadism to clean up isis? 

there never would have been an isis

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Those in the know at the time knew exactly what they were doing....there are many interviews siting the "power vacuum" that would be left if we deposed sadaam. I think things worked exactly as they thought they would

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Just now, f7ben said:

there never would have been an isis

the invasion of iraq was the single largest military blunder in the history of the fucking world. the mess will reverberate for decades. 

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1 minute ago, f7ben said:

Those in the know at the time knew exactly what they were doing....there are many interviews siting the "power vacuum" that would be left if we deposed sadaam. I think things worked exactly as they thought they would

yep, there's video of darth cheney himself stating just that

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1 minute ago, Snoslinger said:

yep, there's video of darth cheney himself stating just that

it was well known ......they knew that throwing the middle east into perpetual turmoil would provide them decades of boogeymen to terrify americans with conning them out of their rights and their wealth

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1 minute ago, Snoslinger said:

imo that was the original plan, when they thought we'd march right in there to cheers and flowers. once things got ugly and hatred for us went exponential, i think they had to divvy the oil up more. 

I haven't searched about it much but the last time I looked you couldn't find anything on the internet about Exxon, BP and Chevron's operations in Iraq.  They all three have huge operations there.  BP is producing almost 1.5 Million BOPD out of Iraq now.  Exxon is over 1 Million BOPD.  Chevron is a close 3rd.  The US and British government is protecting their expatriates with armed forces.  Last month when Iraq got pissed off because of the Trump travel Ban and threatened to retaliate US oil workers were exempt from that retaliation.  

Oil is powerful stuff.  IT makes people and governments do crazy things.  

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1 minute ago, Back Country Rebel said:

I haven't searched about it much but the last time I looked you couldn't find anything on the internet about Exxon, BP and Chevron's operations in Iraq.  They all three have huge operations there.  BP is producing almost 1.5 Million BOPD out of Iraq now.  Exxon is over 1 Million BOPD.  Chevron is a close 3rd.  The US and British government is protecting their expatriates with armed forces.  Last month when Iraq got pissed off because of the Trump travel Ban and threatened to retaliate US oil workers were exempt from that retaliation.  

Oil is powerful stuff.  IT makes people and governments do crazy things.  

yep, and now iraq isn't on the list at all. tillerson probably squashed that.

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42 minutes ago, Back Country Rebel said:

Oil.  It's why BP, ExxonMobile and Chevron are still there.  Only a momo couldn't understand that.  

so we went to fight for oil that we in the usa don't even use?

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