Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 7, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 7, 2017 Hmmmmm. This is getting interesting. No link yet as Gingrich just said this on the OF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Would this really surprise any of you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Hmmmmm. This is getting interesting. No link yet as Gingrich just said this on the OF. "OF"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 7, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SSFB said: Would this really surprise any of you? Not in the slightest. The obama admin spied on journalist, congressional members and 35 foreign leaders just to name a few. Time for people to wake up. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-06/here-are-top-15-obamagate-wiretap-victims Edited March 7, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 7, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: "OF"? O'reilly Factor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Perhaps they were monitoring the ambassadors phone calls, not Trump tower's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 16 minutes ago, Zambroski said: "OF"? 15 minutes ago, Highmark said: O'reilly Factor Get with it old man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 7, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 7, 2017 13 minutes ago, 1jkw said: Perhaps they were monitoring the ambassadors phone calls, not Trump tower's. Absolutely but there are rules then about when an American citizen is a part of the call. The leak to the Washington Post was highly illegal. Who did that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, Highmark said: Absolutely but there are rules then about when an American citizen is a part of the call. The leak to the Washington Post was highly illegal. Who did that? No idea really, wiki leaks, an agent of some intel group or somebody playing games with the press, lots of possibilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 13 minutes ago, Momorider said: Get with it old man My bad. I don't usually watch. "OF" so I'm in the dark about the abbreviation. But I do like BO. Read one of his books too (Rising Sun). Really good. 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: Absolutely but there are rules then about when an American citizen is a part of the call. The leak to the Washington Post was highly illegal. Who did that? Well, is appears that Trump may just have sparked something the Dems wish he hadn't. And all their little media games and discounting may not make this go away. Ooops (again). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 7, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, 1jkw said: No idea really, wiki leaks, an agent of some intel group or somebody playing games with the press, lots of possibilities. It came straight from the intelligence community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Just now, Highmark said: It came straight from the intelligence community. According to who? The media doesn't like giving up it's sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 7, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 7, 2017 26 minutes ago, 1jkw said: According to who? The media doesn't like giving up it's sources. Think about it who else could have leaked wire tap transcripts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 the fbi didn't do it. the nsa didn't do it. that leaves dr evil. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 did you republicans ever stop and think that trump is fucking crazy enough to tweet unsubstantiated info he heard on a right wing conspiracy centered talk radio show? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Just now, Highmark said: Think about it who else could have leaked wire tap transcripts. I already named a few, the fact is we don't know very much of what has taken place and we will likely never know. The problem is that Flynn, lied about his contact, Sessions was less than forthcoming and has recused himself, another aid first denied now admitted his contact, Trumps sil met with the Amb. as well and Trump may have never known that any of these people met or talked with the Amb. but he said other wise. The claim that Obama wiretapped Trump tower was not a smart move on his part, his diehard supporters wouldn't care if he ate a live baby on tv., but there are plenty of anybody but Hillary voters, and people who were sick of the lies coming out of DC and right now it looks like more of the same than the change people thought they were getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 17 minutes ago, 1jkw said: I already named a few, the fact is we don't know very much of what has taken place and we will likely never know. The problem is that Flynn, lied about his contact, Sessions was less than forthcoming and has recused himself, another aid first denied now admitted his contact, Trumps sil met with the Amb. as well and Trump may have never known that any of these people met or talked with the Amb. but he said other wise. The claim that Obama wiretapped Trump tower was not a smart move on his part, his diehard supporters wouldn't care if he ate a live baby on tv., but there are plenty of anybody but Hillary voters, and people who were sick of the lies coming out of DC and right now it looks like more of the same than the change people thought they were getting. I think the "anybody but Hillary" voters are seeing EXACTLY why they thought that in the first place. The Dems and their media are making complete specticles of themselves and an extraordinary mockery of our government. And it'd have to be "extra" after this election. I just don't see many of them feeling any different in spite of what Trump does in which they may disagree. And to most of them, Trump is making good strides right now with a lot of things that they were after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: I think the "anybody but Hillary" voters are seeing EXACTLY why they thought that in the first place. The Dems and their media are making complete specticles of themselves and an extraordinary mockery of our government. And it'd have to be "extra" after this election. I just don't see many of them feeling any different in spite of what Trump does in which they may disagree. And to most of them, Trump is making good strides right now with a lot of things that they were after. People are careful of what they say because Trump supporters are very staunch in their support, I live where Trump did extremely well and had a lot of anybody but Hillary voters, privately they will say there has been lots of lies and plenty of confusion, and while they are willing to wait it out a while are very disappointed. If the ACA replacement isn't cheaper and better, and I mean cheaper by a meaningful amount and better by a decent amount, his support will die fast. The other thing is taxes and wages, if there is no noticeable, middle class tax cut and a good rise in wages for the middle class support will die quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 1 minute ago, 1jkw said: People are careful of what they say because Trump supporters are very staunch in their support, I live where Trump did extremely well and had a lot of anybody but Hillary voters, privately they will say there has been lots of lies and plenty of confusion, and while they are willing to wait it out a while are very disappointed. If the ACA replacement isn't cheaper and better, and I mean cheaper by a meaningful amount and better by a decent amount, his support will die fast. The other thing is taxes and wages, if there is no noticeable, middle class tax cut and a good rise in wages for the middle class support will die quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Highmark said: Hmmmmm. This is getting interesting. No link yet as Gingrich just said this on the OF. It's truly amazing that our intelligence community would be monitoring the phone conversations of Russia's ambassador to the US Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: It had better be, much of NEPA supported Trump for that very reason, probably at the top of the list behind maybe gun control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 you guys are getting so used by your president. fucking dummies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 1 hour ago, spin_dry said: the fbi didn't do it. the nsa didn't do it. that leaves dr evil. . I'm thinking it was Valerie Jarrett and some plumbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, 1jkw said: People are careful of what they say because Trump supporters are very staunch in their support, I live where Trump did extremely well and had a lot of anybody but Hillary voters, privately they will say there has been lots of lies and plenty of confusion, and while they are willing to wait it out a while are very disappointed. If the ACA replacement isn't cheaper and better, and I mean cheaper by a meaningful amount and better by a decent amount, his support will die fast. The other thing is taxes and wages, if there is no noticeable, middle class tax cut and a good rise in wages for the middle class support will die quickly. The ACA was failing. I don't know why most won't at least do a quick search as to why. It's simple but most won't bother, whether they care or not. Anything done to that should help. Most Americans that aren't following around Trump because they hate him, and/or themselves or lives, are seeing a solid changes that are amounting to a consumer confidence that we haven't seen in years and years. Consumer confidence=Spending=growth. It's been a bit over one month and these strides in the right direction have been epic. Even stanch Dems are enjoying their 401k boosts and will also start seeing more career and job opportunities. The rest should come but again, it's only been a bit over a month. The Dems are holding up a lot of shit that needs to happen to start moving on the rest of some agendas Trump promised. They CANNOT let him succeed at the risk of their party losing even more control. Sadly, they are losing their fight and will continue to do so. They are a wreck. Also, this "it's Russia" thing has just gotten old to all of the "fence voters". It's enough already with this silliness that the Dems keep pushing. They are looking foolish. Does anybody really think America is being "worked" by Putin? No. They should just let it go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 9 minutes ago, 1jkw said: It had better be, much of NEPA supported Trump for that very reason, probably at the top of the list behind maybe gun control. well based on what's been revealed tonight, that isn't happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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