Catman Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 But he's done such great things for the citizens of Alamaba! Guy was lined up to be VP apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: remember this story? "Former Luzerne County (Pennsylvania) Judge Mark Ciavarella has been spending his time doing odd jobs for a car towing service while awaiting sentencing since being found guilty on felony corruption charges. His car towing days are over, and the 61-year-old judge is heading to federal prison for 28 years -- this could amount to a life sentence. His sentence brings to closure a dark time in the history of the city of Wilkes-Barre, PA, which is in Luzerne County. He was found guilty in February of racketeering for taking a $1 million kickback from the builder of for-profit prisons for juveniles. Ciavarella who left the bench over two years ago after he and another judge, Michael Conahan, were accused of sentencing youngsters to prisons they had a hand in building. Prosecutors alleged that Conahan, who pleaded guilty last year and is awaiting sentencing, and Ciavarella received kick-backs from the private company that built and maintained the new youth detention facility that replaced the older county-run center." https://www.forbes.com/sites/walterpavlo/2011/08/12/pennsylvania-judge-gets-life-sentence-for-prison-kickback-scheme/#14da5f144aef Freest country on Earth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: remember this story? "Former Luzerne County (Pennsylvania) Judge Mark Ciavarella has been spending his time doing odd jobs for a car towing service while awaiting sentencing since being found guilty on felony corruption charges. His car towing days are over, and the 61-year-old judge is heading to federal prison for 28 years -- this could amount to a life sentence. His sentence brings to closure a dark time in the history of the city of Wilkes-Barre, PA, which is in Luzerne County. He was found guilty in February of racketeering for taking a $1 million kickback from the builder of for-profit prisons for juveniles. Ciavarella who left the bench over two years ago after he and another judge, Michael Conahan, were accused of sentencing youngsters to prisons they had a hand in building. Prosecutors alleged that Conahan, who pleaded guilty last year and is awaiting sentencing, and Ciavarella received kick-backs from the private company that built and maintained the new youth detention facility that replaced the older county-run center." https://www.forbes.com/sites/walterpavlo/2011/08/12/pennsylvania-judge-gets-life-sentence-for-prison-kickback-scheme/#14da5f144aef So what you are saying is, azs AG, Holder let these kinds of things run rampant? What kind of AG was he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) ah here we go again. an incident happening somewhere in the US at state/local level when holder was AG, is the same as the current AG being in favor of creating these incidents nationwide. doesn't it get old trying to make these comparisons? Edited February 26, 2017 by Snoslinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 the point was that is the kind of shit that would happen on a national scale. why don't you just say you're not in favor of it instead of trying to compare an apple to an orange? or are you in favor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: ah here we go again. an incident happening somewhere in the US at state/local level when holder was AG, is the same as the current AG being in favor of creating these incidents nationwide. doesn't it get old trying to make these comparisons? I can just imagine the stuff he let slide that we DON'T know about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: the point was that is the kind of shit that would happen on a national scale. why don't you just say you're not in favor of it instead of trying to compare an apple to an orange? or are you in favor? Why do you excuse the prior admin of allowing it to happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 20 minutes ago, f7ben said: Dirty necked electrician I'll be long retired by the time I'm your age.....not begging my way into a new career Better odds, that you'll be laid off twice and divorced by that time, and the drinking will have finally caught up to you, statistically speaking. I'm sure your wife is lovely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 32 minutes ago, f7ben said: Yah ....the prisons just spend shit tons of money lobbying for more laws and mandatory minimums and all kinds of fucking garbage designed to keep their cash cow full of people fuck you momo , kill yourself you worthless pile of rot and more from Bipolarhooknosed know nothing clown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 30 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: holder wasn't the greatest thing since sliced bread but once again, he was better than sessions, by light years.. 100% of the time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 19 minutes ago, Anler said: We should lock idiots like these guys up in these prisons. Would be money well spent... Like there was ever a question 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, Snake said: Why do you excuse the prior admin of allowing it to happen? because it's a relatively new, known problem? is sessions taking the approach outlined below, yes or no? try to stay on topic and quit trying to equate session to holder. "The US government took the first tentative steps toward tackling its 1.5m-strong prison population on Monday by announcing that minor drug dealers would be spared the mandatory minimum sentences that have previously locked up many for a decade or more. Reversing years of toughening political rhetoric in Washington, attorney general Eric Holder declared that levels of incarceration at federal, state and local levels had become both "ineffective and unsustainable." The US government took the first tentative steps toward tackling its 1.5m-strong prison population on Monday by announcing that minor drug dealers would be spared the mandatory minimum sentences that have previously locked up many for a decade or more. Reversing years of toughening political rhetoric in Washington, attorney general Eric Holder declared that levels of incarceration at federal, state and local levels had become both "ineffective and unsustainable." "Too many Americans go to too many prisons for far too long and for no truly good law enforcement reason," he said, adding later: "We cannot simply prosecute or incarcerate our way to becoming a safer country." https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/12/eric-holder-smart-crime-reform-us-prisons Holder also announced a review into sentencing disparities, pointing to a recent study showing black male offenders received sentences nearly 20% longer than whites convicted of similar crimes. "This isn't just unacceptable, it is shameful," said Holder. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/12/eric-holder-smart-crime-reform-us-prisons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 57 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Private prisons profits rely on a ever increasing conviction rate. When the judges are in the pockets of corporate prisons well you know.... yeah tell the judge all about it after your daughter is raped or shot in a drive by how he should be compassionate because the prisons are just in it for the money .shut the fuck up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: because it's a relatively new, known problem? is sessions taking the approach outlined below, yes or no? try to stay on topic and quit trying to equate session to holder. "The US government took the first tentative steps toward tackling its 1.5m-strong prison population on Monday by announcing that minor drug dealers would be spared the mandatory minimum sentences that have previously locked up many for a decade or more. Reversing years of toughening political rhetoric in Washington, attorney general Eric Holder declared that levels of incarceration at federal, state and local levels had become both "ineffective and unsustainable." The US government took the first tentative steps toward tackling its 1.5m-strong prison population on Monday by announcing that minor drug dealers would be spared the mandatory minimum sentences that have previously locked up many for a decade or more. Reversing years of toughening political rhetoric in Washington, attorney general Eric Holder declared that levels of incarceration at federal, state and local levels had become both "ineffective and unsustainable." "Too many Americans go to too many prisons for far too long and for no truly good law enforcement reason," he said, adding later: "We cannot simply prosecute or incarcerate our way to becoming a safer country." https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/12/eric-holder-smart-crime-reform-us-prisons Holder also announced a review into sentencing disparities, pointing to a recent study showing black male offenders received sentences nearly 20% longer than whites convicted of similar crimes. "This isn't just unacceptable, it is shameful," said Holder. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/12/eric-holder-smart-crime-reform-us-prisons Relatively new 100% of the time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 26, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: yeah tell the judge all about it after your daughter is raped or shot in a drive by how he should be compassionate because the prisons are just in it for the money .shut the fuck up What the fuck are you babbling about? Private prisons are a bad idea and not sure anybody is talking about compassion for rapists and murderers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 well i may be mistaken, but i don't recall this topic being in the news during the bush years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 49 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: the guy who wanted to decriminalize marijuana? do tell the similarities between sessions and holder. U are not going to really attempt to defend holder are U? U are fucking lost if u do and really not worth the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: yeah tell the judge all about it after your daughter is raped or shot in a drive by how he should be compassionate because the prisons are just in it for the money .shut the fuck up wtf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 28 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: wtf? reply to Private prisons profits rely on a ever increasing conviction rate. When the judges are in the pockets of corporate prisons well you know that's WTF Privet prisons have bee around a long time and it was not until oboma was 1/2 way out the door that they gave 2 shit about them . was not until aug of 16 they announced a phase out of them . not shutting them down not having states buy them out just not building more. I saw a lot of outrage from u clowns on privet prisons before aug of 16 pushing for this phase out right ? fuck no U read some worthless shit get your g string in a bunch and come to a snowmobile forum to prove your tolerance sort of sad really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Anler said: So running a prison like a private corporation is best for Americans? Corporate rule of thumb would be to keep prison as full as possible while keeping overhead low to keep profits peaked. Making citizens criminals to keep the prisons full saves us how? Non violent offenders being locked up aren't contributing and ends up costing us more. It's idiots like you that are letting this country get run down the shitter. You believe everything they tell you and have no capacity for critical or discernable thought. You should do America a favor and go run your car in the garage with the doors closed. Listen cunt, I jokingly mentioned that very thing in post #3. What's wrong with keeping overhead low? It's ok to keep overhead high in a public run system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, snoughnut said: Listen cunt, I jokingly mentioned that very thing in post #3. What's wrong with keeping overhead low? It's ok to keep overhead high in a public run system? Hard to beleive the Nazi Pig Dog is a business owner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Just now, Momorider said: Hard to beleive the Nazi Pig Dog is a business owner There's a pretty good chance he has a partner who contributes the brain power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, snoughnut said: There's a pretty good chance he has a partner who contributes the brain power. no doubt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 26, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, snoughnut said: There's a pretty good chance he has a partner who contributes the brain power. Priceless coming from you and yes I know I'm just a paint buffer but all you do is bitch about how bad business is...maybe you need a partner with brains. Edited February 26, 2017 by Biggie Smails Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 so privet prisons started in 1997 who would that have been under? I see that The Bureau of Prisons first turned to privately operated prisons in 1997 to help alleviate overcrowding. The partnership grew steadily, focusing primarily on low-security inmates designated as "criminal aliens" — non-citizens who've committed a crime — with less than eight years left on their sentences. In fiscal year 2014, the contracts were worth about $639 million, up from $562 million in fiscal year 2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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