spin_dry Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Update at 4:40 PM By: CHRISTOPHER S. RUGABER WASHINGTON (AP) - President Donald Trump brought two dozen manufacturing CEOs to the White House on Thursday and declared their collective commitment to restoring factory jobs lost to foreign competition. Yet some of the CEOs suggested that there were still plenty of openings for U.S. factory jobs but too few qualified people to fill them. They urged the White House to support vocational training for the high-tech skills that today's manufacturers increasingly require - a topic Trump has seldom addressed. "The jobs are there, but the skills are not," one executive said during meetings with White House officials that preceded a session with the president. (Reporters were permitted to attend the meetings on the condition of not quoting individual executives by name.) The discussion of job training and worker skills is a relatively new one for Trump, who campaigned for the White House on promises to restore manufacturing jobs that he said had been lost to flawed trade deals and unfair competition from countries like Mexico and China. Again and again, Trump brought up that theme in his meeting with the CEOs. "Everything is going to be based on bringing our jobs back," Trump said. "The good jobs, the real jobs. They've left." White House officials said Trump heard the CEOs' concerns about a shortage of qualified workers and said he supports efforts to increase training for factory jobs. But they didn't provide details. "We were challenged by the president to ... come up with a program to make sure the American worker is trained for the manufacturing jobs of tomorrow," Reed Cordish, a White House official, said after Thursday's meetings. Trump officials said the meetings were intended to provide the White House with ideas in four areas: taxes and trade; regulatory reform; infrastructure; and the "workforce of the future," including advanced training. Proposed solutions may be included in future presidential executive orders or legislative proposals, a White House official said. The gathering occurred amid the same kind of jovially informal atmosphere that has prevailed in several meetings Trump has held with CEOs in the four weeks since his inauguration. Most of the executives thanked the president for reaching out to them, and several expressed gratitude for his interest in meeting them face to face. "All the CEOs are very encouraged by the pro-business policies of President Trump," Andrew Liveris, CEO of Dow Chemical, said afterward outside the White House. "Some of us have said this is probably the most pro-business administration since the Founding Fathers." Other CEOs at the meeting included Jeff Immelt of General Electric, Doug Oberhelman of Caterpillar, Inge Thulin of 3M and Denise Morrison of Campbell Soup. One executive said in discussions with White House officials that his company has 50 participants in a factory apprenticeship program, but could take 500 if enough were qualified. But he said that in his experience, most students coming out of high school lack the math and English skills to absorb technical manuals. Some economists argue that businesses should offer higher pay and adopt more training if they can't find the workers they need. Higher pay would draw more young people into the field. In the meantime, some data supports the CEOs' concerns about the shortage of qualified applicants. Government figures show there are 324,000 open factory jobs nationwide - triple the number in 2009, during the depths of the recession. Separately, the administration sent mixed signals Thursday about a contentious proposed tax on imports, known as a "border adjustment." The proposal has the support of House Republican leaders, including Speaker Paul Ryan. In an interview with Reuters, Trump expressed general support for a "form of tax on the border," saying it "could lead to a lot more jobs in the United States." But he stopped short of endorsing the House proposal specifically. Earlier Thursday, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin gave a more lukewarm assessment of the proposal in an interview with the business network CNBC. "We think there are some very interesting aspects of it," Mnuchin said but added: "We think there are some concerns about it." Several of the manufacturing CEOs pushed for the tax during their meeting with Trump, a White House official said. But others, particularly those who rely on imported goods, were opposed, the official said. The border-adjusted tax is opposed by large retailers such as Wal-Mart and Target, who argue that they could end up paying more in taxes than they earn in profits under the proposal. The official wasn't authorized to discuss a closed-door meeting and spoke on condition of anonymity. ___ AP Economics Writer Martin Crutsinger contributed to this report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Rosenberg Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Yeah , support vocational training . A good way to start would be to reverse the liberal faggotry and put shop class BACK in the fucking school day . 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 How could this happen under the last eight years of the "intellectually elite" being in office? HOW? I thought higher education was a trademark of being one of the "intellectually elite"? I don't get it. We had eight years of the teachers unions being protected and promoted by the Dems as "magnificent". Teachers educating students of the value of higher learning and advanced degrees. What gives here? I liked this part: "One executive said in discussions with White House officials that his company has 50 participants in a factory apprenticeship program, but could take 500 if enough were qualified. But he said that in his experience, most students coming out of high school lack the math and English skills to absorb technical manuals." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dz246 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Sal Rosenberg said: Yeah , support vocational training . A good way to start would be to reverse the liberal faggotry and put shop class BACK in the fucking school day . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sal Rosenberg said: Yeah , support vocational training . A good way to start would be to reverse the liberal faggotry and put shop class BACK in the fucking school day . GOOD GOD! YES! Trades are paying out the nose right now! GOOD BUCKS! Meanwhile, our teachers are doing their best to indoctrinate our kids in their liberal ideologies and they can't figure out how to change their own door locks to keep them safe from the things that go "bump" in the night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 23, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 23, 2017 "Yet some of the CEOs suggested that there were still plenty of openings for U.S. factory jobs but too few qualified people to fill them. They urged the White House to support vocational training for the high-tech skills that today's manufacturers increasingly require I agree as I hear this in my area in everything from mfg to construction. Sad as its a product of today's parenting and public education system. I don't oppose at a minimum drastically reduced TC costs even free. Obama's program was retarded as the only free stuff was classes that transferred to a 4 year school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 We don't need vocational training or jobs. Every kid deserves a free ride through a 4 year degree at a liberal arts collage. We need a white collar, and entry level work force.And lets get them to $15 per hr stat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 23, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 23, 2017 Just now, JEFF said: We don't need vocational training or jobs. Every kid deserves a free ride through a 4 year degree at a liberal arts collage. We need a white collar, and entry level work force.And lets get them to $15 per hr stat! Biggest complaints I hear regarding qualifications are not educational but life skills like showing up on time. Working for someone without constantly complaining. Staying off fucking drugs. Its sad whats going on in the real world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: Biggest complaints I hear regarding qualifications are not educational but life skills like showing up on time. Working for someone without constantly complaining. Staying off fucking drugs. Its sad whats going on in the real world. Absolutely. I've had three job applicants ask right up front if we drug test when we hire. Fucking seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted February 23, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted February 23, 2017 20 minutes ago, Zambroski said: How could this happen under the last eight years of the "intellectually elite" being in office? HOW? I thought higher education was a trademark of being one of the "intellectually elite"? I don't get it. We had eight years of the teachers unions being protected and promoted by the Dems as "magnificent". Teachers educating students of the value of higher learning and advanced degrees. What gives here? I liked this part: "One executive said in discussions with White House officials that his company has 50 participants in a factory apprenticeship program, but could take 500 if enough were qualified. But he said that in his experience, most students coming out of high school lack the math and English skills to absorb technical manuals." This dumb shit CEO that says they can only get 50 but need 500 for an apprenticeship... An apprentice isn't suppose to know shit... that's the point of an apprenticeship is to teach and mold them into a journeyman over years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Just now, BOHICA said: This dumb shit CEO that says they can only get 50 but need 500 for an apprenticeship... An apprentice isn't suppose to know shit... that's the point of an apprenticeship is to teach and mold them into a journeyman over years. I guess we don't know what the business was. I understand what he said about it though...and it's importance: "......most students coming out of high school lack the math and English skills to absorb technical manuals." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted February 24, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted February 24, 2017 33 minutes ago, Sal Rosenberg said: Yeah , support vocational training . A good way to start would be to reverse the liberal faggotry and put shop class BACK in the fucking school day . Agreed, create interest in those sorts of career fields again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted February 24, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted February 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Zambroski said: I guess we don't know what the business was. I understand what he said about it though...and it's importance: "......most students coming out of high school lack the math and English skills to absorb technical manuals." To me desire and ethic is the biggest. In our 4 year apprenticeship for lineman the English you learn is "you stupid fucking ape" "you worthless piece of shit". What the fuck you doing you idiot". That just about covers English lesson Math I can teach what my ape needs to know. 1 month I can tell if they will make it or if they need to be washed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 24, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 24, 2017 33 minutes ago, Highmark said: Biggest complaints I hear regarding qualifications are not educational but life skills like showing up on time. Working for someone without constantly complaining. Staying off fucking drugs. Its sad whats going on in the real world. Well looky there....two things that can't be blamed on public school teachers although I'm sure some will try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Build more vocational schools. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Anler Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 So are the CEOs saying there are more highly skilled workers in the third world countries they've been moving too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/09/09/obama-administration-to-support-apprenticeships-vocational-school/ http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-budget-education-idUSTRE81C1Z620120213 https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-to-announce-600-million-in-grant-programs-to-prepare-workforce-for-jobs/2014/04/16/8feebcb8-c4e9-11e3-bcec-b71ee10e9bc3_story.html?utm_term=.f4014e3c0ffd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 10 minutes ago, Anler said: So are the CEOs saying there are more highly skilled workers in the third world countries they've been moving too? Did it say those CEO's were moving their operations to the third world? I didn't see that. But even if they did, it's likely they are better educated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/09/09/obama-administration-to-support-apprenticeships-vocational-school/ http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-budget-education-idUSTRE81C1Z620120213 https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-to-announce-600-million-in-grant-programs-to-prepare-workforce-for-jobs/2014/04/16/8feebcb8-c4e9-11e3-bcec-b71ee10e9bc3_story.html?utm_term=.f4014e3c0ffd Thanks for the links and the homework. Could you please, maybe, sort of, make a comment of your own? 'Preciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Thanks for the links and the homework. Could you please, maybe, sort of, make a comment of your own? 'Preciate it. no comments needed. the links alone prove once again, you're talking out of your ass. Edited February 24, 2017 by Snoslinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Just now, Snoslinger said: no comments needed. the links alone prove once again, you're talking out of your ass. You must heal quickly. Your epic daily beat down was exceptionally harsh today. I think after a while, all those shots to the head just become diminished returns. Like slapping a water balloon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: You must heal quickly. Your epic daily beat down was exceptionally harsh today. I think after a while, all those shots to the head just become diminished returns. Like slapping a water balloon. blah blah blah...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zambroski Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: blah blah blah...... Right. That's what I mean. Water balloon head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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