f7ben Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 The bod was a fine governor and great in person. He was 10x better than tpaw or the faggot we have now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 25 minutes ago, f7ben said: The bod was a fine governor and great in person. He was 10x better than tpaw or the faggot we have now i grew up south of the twin cities. jesse was the real deal. he would drop everything and show up at any fundraiser for kids in need of medical care or just about any good cause. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 22 minutes ago, spin_dry said: i grew up south of the twin cities. jesse was the real deal. he would drop everything and show up at any fundraiser for kids in need of medical care or just about any good cause. Yup....good dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 56 minutes ago, f7ben said: Yup....good dude Snake says he needs to eat a bullet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 16 minutes ago, Anler said: Snake says he needs to eat a bullet... snake says a lot of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKHighmark Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 5 hours ago, spin_dry said: snake says a lot of things. You fucking morons say a lot of shit too. What have you fuckers done for your country other than piss and moan on obscure sled websites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 hour ago, AKHighmark said: You fucking morons say a lot of shit too. What have you fuckers done for your country other than piss and moan on obscure sled websites. I set good examples... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 2 hours ago, AKHighmark said: You fucking morons say a lot of shit too. What have you fuckers done for your country other than piss and moan on obscure sled websites. Oh, can I sit with this class and wait for some answers too? I'll take notes...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 24, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 24, 2017 2 hours ago, AKHighmark said: You fucking morons say a lot of shit too. What have you fuckers done for your country other than piss and moan on obscure sled websites. I would never denigrate the military service of someone but what have any of the wars or general fuckery since WW2 done to keep us "free" and spare me the Lee Greewnwood narrative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Biggie Smails said: I would never denigrate the military service of someone but what have any of the wars or general fuckery since WW2 done to keep us "free" and spare me the Lee Greewnwood narrative. Well, there are actually a lot things that come from the benefits of war, but, even I can find them arguable and ponder the actual benefit sometimes. However, our large military creates something of a collateral benefit many forget. Many individuals that serve in the military bring greater intangible benefits to the citizenship and workforce after their service. Even the Coast Guard veterans have something "extra" over a college grad or other non-veteran. Not much....but some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 24, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: Well, there are actually a lot things that come from the benefits of war, but, even I can find them arguable and ponder the actual benefit sometimes. However, our large military creates something of a collateral benefit many forget. Many individuals that serve in the military bring greater intangible benefits to the citizenship and workforce after their service. Even the Coast Guard veterans have something "extra" over a college grad or other non-veteran. Not much....but some. I agree with the collateral benefit but tell me what was accomplished by losing 50,000 young men in Vietnam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Biggie Smails said: I agree with the collateral benefit but tell me what was accomplished by losing 50,000 young men in Vietnam? There is the arguemental factor. I can state some things that did benefit us as a nation. But was it worth it? Whew....I'd still have to argue with myself and say no. 10 years of deaths brought on by an administration too weak and tentative to end things with a "win". Sounds all too familiar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 39 minutes ago, Biggie Smails said: I agree with the collateral benefit but tell me what was accomplished by losing 50,000 young men in Vietnam? 50,000 lost lives is a pittance compared to the suffering and cost to society since that "conflict" ended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 3 hours ago, AKHighmark said: You fucking morons say a lot of shit too. What have you fuckers done for your country other than piss and moan on obscure sled websites. oh someone is a little testy i see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 24, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 24, 2017 55 minutes ago, Biggie Smails said: I agree with the collateral benefit but tell me what was accomplished by losing 50,000 young men in Vietnam? Worth it or not it did help stop the further spread of communism. Don't kid yourself Afghanistan wasn't the only thing that bankrupt the former Soviet Union. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 24, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Highmark said: Worth it or not it did help stop the further spread of communism. Don't kid yourself Afghanistan wasn't the only thing that bankrupt the former Soviet Union. No and WGAF anyhow....it was a devastating and tragic quagmire that accomplished nothing. Edited February 24, 2017 by Biggie Smails Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 24, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 24, 2017 Just now, Biggie Smails said: No and WGAF anyhow....it was a devastating and tragic quagmire. I don't disagree it wasn't worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 24, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: I don't disagree it wasn't worth it. Ho Chi Minh was interested in Vietnamese independence....not spreading communism throughout SE Asia. Edited February 24, 2017 by Biggie Smails Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 24, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Biggie Smails said: Ho Chi Minh was interested in Vietnamese independence....not spreading communism throughout SE Asia. China and Russia were. Again not worth it but we knew going in we wouldn't be fighting just the Viet Cong, and North Vietnam. We knew the North Korea, Khmer Rouge just to name a few would be involved. America even more so than today had this notion that our boys needed to die for other peoples freedom from oppression and communism. Edited February 24, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doos Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 17 hours ago, Zambroski said: Are you arguing with me or just adding? Cuz..that's kinda what I posted. I do think he was assigned to a team after Vietnam but I know he never saw action there. Ha, not arguing at all. Just adding that they were considered separate post BUDS while he was enlisted. As I understand it the UDT's and SEAL teams had different responsibilities before they were combined. Im not an expert by any stretch but it interests me so I read up on it here and there. I thought this was an interesting read. http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/1999/dec/02/jesse-great-pretender-ventura/# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 mcnamara believed the vietnam war did nothing to prevent the spread of communism. i agree with him. vietnam was a miserable waste of time, money, and lives. as for war building character in people..,,there's a thousand different methods to build a strong personal foundation. this thread is filled with so much hogwash i had to laugh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 6 hours ago, Biggie Smails said: I agree with the collateral benefit but tell me what was accomplished by losing 50,000 young men in Vietnam? That doesnt even include the guys that got fucked up and poisoned with Agent orange and have been ill the entire rest of their lives. Vietnam affected everyone everywhere at the time. Bad bad bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, spin_dry said: mcnamara believed the vietnam war did nothing to prevent the spread of communism. i agree with him. vietnam was a miserable waste of time, money, and lives. as for war building character in people..,,there's a thousand different methods to build a strong personal foundation. this thread is filled with so much hogwash i had to laugh. Not to mention that McNamara admitted that the Tonkin incident never happened. War was started over a lie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 22 hours ago, motonoggin said: Knowing that you are going for the fascist theme I think I should tell you that instead of using a Reichsadler over the Eye of Providence, a Parteiadler should have been used as it's looking over it's left wing keeping an eye on the enemy on the left Symbolism, it's important 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Rosenberg Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 12 hours ago, AKHighmark said: You fucking morons say a lot of shit too. What have you fuckers done for your country other than piss and moan on obscure sled websites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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