Anler Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Dave said: To me performance is reliability....ive never had a ram or gm truck die on me in the mountains....cant say the same about a Ford....and hey it would be different if it only happened once. Ford guys are like Arctic Cat guys, shit breaking down at the least opportune time is just part of owning them. They are still the best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, Dave said: To me performance is reliability....ive never had a ram or gm truck die on me in the mountains....cant say the same about a Ford....and hey it would be different if it only happened once. I think it comes down to the luck of the draw. Every manufacturer has their issues, you can get a good one or a bad one. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, ckf said: I think it comes down to the luck of the draw. Every manufacturer has their issues, you can get a good one or a bad one. They are all pretty good these days. It really is a win win for the consumer, but you gotta love the brand loyalists. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 10 minutes ago, ckf said: I think it comes down to the luck of the draw. Every manufacturer has their issues, you can get a good one or a bad one. And I would usually believe this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted February 23, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted February 23, 2017 40 minutes ago, Dave said: To me performance is reliability....ive never had a ram or gm truck die on me in the mountains....cant say the same about a Ford....and hey it would be different if it only happened once. Many have had opposite experiences as you. http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2017/02/vincentric-announces-best-pickup-values.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Many have had opposite experiences as you. http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2017/02/vincentric-announces-best-pickup-values.html Well the 17s havent been out for very long..... Not sure what you're trying to prove. Edited February 23, 2017 by Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted February 23, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted February 23, 2017 32 minutes ago, Dave said: Well the 17s havent been out for very long..... Not sure what you're trying to prove. Past 5 years they pull there data from. A lot of new stuff for 17. Ram is the only essential the same in 16 as 17 and they are the most expensive to operate and keep on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 hour ago, BOHICA said: Past 5 years they pull there data from. A lot of new stuff for 17. Ram is the only essential the same in 16 as 17 and they are the most expensive to operate and keep on the road. Well we know how reliable most data is.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
800 Dragon Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 RAM WORST TRUCK FALL APART SHIT BELIEVE ME I HAD THEM ALL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, 800 Dragon said: RAM WORST TRUCK FALL APART SHIT BELIEVE ME I HAD THEM ALL You caveman too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
800 Dragon Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 27 minutes ago, Dave said: You caveman too sbyl but it is a known fact I have millions tried them all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Just now, 800 Dragon said: sbyl but it is a known fact I have millions tried them all Interest free loan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Payable whenever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
800 Dragon Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 just cuz I have millions I dont help the poor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, 800 Dragon said: just cuz I have millions I dont help the poor Poor you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
800 Dragon Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Ram worst truck on marget fall apart 5 yrs max ! fact ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
small-bore Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 20 hours ago, Carlos Danger said: Nissan!!! I would never buy a Nissan anything. I drive a Nissan suv. It blew a transmission line out of the rad at Christmas. 700 buck to fix that. I blew a heater motor a couple of weeks ago. 1145 bucks to fix that. It now needs front end work. It hasn't been a cheap winter that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwytohell Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 4 hours ago, ckf said: I think it comes down to the luck of the draw. Every manufacturer has their issues, you can get a good one or a bad one. Just like new first model year snowmobiles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwytohell Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, 800 Dragon said: RAM WORST TRUCK FALL APART SHIT BELIEVE ME I HAD THEM ALL Al Bundy Dodges make good cheap plow scows , you can buy them cheap because of zero resale in most cases, automatic trans issues, steering issues , some electrical issues, rust issues in MI , body , brake lines etc. The plow an decent tires are worth more than the value of the truck in most cases. imo Edited February 23, 2017 by hwytohell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) 48 minutes ago, hwytohell said: Al Bundy Dodges make good cheap plow scows , you can buy them cheap because of zero resale in most cases, automatic trans issues, steering issues , some electrical issues, rust issues in MI , body , brake lines etc. The plow an decent tires are worth more than the value of the truck in most cases. imo Gen 1 to gen 3 3/4 ton and up deisel Dodges have much higher resale values then Ford or Gm in western Canada....you cant give a Ford away most times unless it has a 7.3 Edited February 23, 2017 by Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 9 hours ago, Sludgey said: If GM is total shit imagine Ford wow their rating is way worse JD power rating is worthless shit I go off what other guys who actually buy a truck as a tool that they use as a tool every day . and again my last z71 was the biggest pile of shit I have ever owned . the old GM trucks were good long runners . after Mexico fucking junk it is poss they have gotten better in the last few yrs I would not know I dont own a GM any longer . I can tell my ford has been at the shop for 1 day and 1 quick 30min trip in 90k mi hearer blower relay and some clip/bracket on a coolant hose was bad and had a drip 60 bucks. at this point in my z71 life it had spent weeks in the shop and was up to a qt of oil every 1000mi but that is with in GM spec so it was all good fucking pile of shit I actualy felt guilty trading it in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Dave said: Gen 1 to gen 3 3/4 ton and up deisel Dodges have much higher resale values then Ford or Gm in western Canada....you cant give a Ford away most times unless it has a 7.3 my cuz has a old ass 95 3/4 ton ram diesel with a stick over 400k mi on it . and it has yanked a 18ft loaded steel construction trailer every day of its abused life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Just now, Ez ryder said: my cuz has a old ass 95 3/4 ton ram diesel with a stick over 400k mi on it . and it has yanked a 18ft loaded steel construction trailer every day of its abused life 12 valve in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Just now, Dave said: 12 valve in it? I have no idea all I know is he bought it the yr after I got my 1/2 ton gas in 94 and I was already having tranny issues so he ordered a stick my gas 360 ram has been in a junk yard well north of a decade. never a motor issue just trannys lots of trannys and 3 rear ends. that was a sharp looking truck back in the day . cant tell u how many people came up to check it out at gas stations etc . that was first yr of the new style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Ez ryder said: I have no idea all I know is he bought it the yr after I got my 1/2 ton gas in 94 and I was already having tranny issues so he ordered a stick my gas 360 ram has been in a junk yard well north of a decade. never a motor issue just trannys lots of trannys and 3 rear ends. that was a sharp looking truck back in the day . cant tell u how many people came up to check it out at gas stations etc . that was first yr of the new style Ya probably a deisel...ya dodge set the truck world on fire with tjat front end styling...ford copied it in 99. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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