Momorider Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 hour ago, motonoggin said: There wouldn't be any g forces once you were up to speed. Acceleration could be a problem, but we'd need to warp space in order to travel that fast, that warping would negate g forces. Yah a year of 5gs to get to the speed of light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Momorider said: Yah a year of 5gs to get to the speed of light You're thinking way too small. Not really a surprise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Just now, motonoggin said: You're thinking way too small. Not really a surprise That is reality no surprise at all you don't get it, you live in land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 23, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 23, 2017 A worm has about as good as chance as reaching the peak of Mt. Everest from the other side of the Earth as man does reaching this "nearby" solar system. In other words it cannot and will never be achieved without help from another kind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, Highmark said: A worm has about as good as chance as reaching the peak of Mt. Everest from the other side of the Earth as man does reaching this "nearby" solar system. In other words it cannot and will never be achieved without help from another kind. Unless there's a profit to be made! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 23, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Unless there's a profit to be made! Nope, not even then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmeeAgain Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Highmark said: A worm has about as good as chance as reaching the peak of Mt. Everest from the other side of the Earth as man does reaching this "nearby" solar system. In other words it cannot and will never be achieved without help from another kind. With our present tech you are correct. However, there are several models, that physics that will allow, for us to travel to distant worlds without the long journey it would presently take. Faster than light travel in a bubble of space is one that wouldn't break the light speed barrier laws of matter and is theoretically possible. NASA is working on the preliminary work to see if this is possible. The other is the folding of space. Folding space would take far more energy that we are capable of producing - for now. At this point, the best one seems to be warping space and traveling within a space bubble. I remember seeing some "experts" interviewed from back in the 50's. They were saying that it may be possible to see a live broadcast on your TV in your house from something going on in another neighboring state by the 1990's or so. They weren't betting on it, but thought it may be possible. Never say never!! Edited February 23, 2017 by SmeeAgain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 47 minutes ago, Highmark said: A worm has about as good as chance as reaching the peak of Mt. Everest from the other side of the Earth as man does reaching this "nearby" solar system. In other words it cannot and will never be achieved without help from another kind. 1000 years ago nobody had even made it from Europe to the Americas and since that time humans have stepped foot on another celestial body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted February 23, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Momorider said: Trump asked if they could man next years moon orbit flight which was supposed to be unmanned, NASA doesn't like to change plans Going back to the moon and then Mars, with manned flight, has been the plan for a long time now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Momorider Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, Skidooski said: Going back to the moon and then Mars, with manned flight, has been the plan for a long time now. This first flight is to be unmanned, Trump wants a space win in his first term Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 23, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) 31 minutes ago, SmeeAgain said: With our present tech you are correct. However, there are several models, that physics that will allow, for us to travel to distant worlds without the long journey it would presently take. Faster than light travel in a bubble of space is one that wouldn't break the light speed barrier laws of matter and is theoretically possible. NASA is working on the preliminary work to see if this is possible. The other is the folding of space. Folding space would take far more energy that we are capable of producing - for now. At this point, the best one seems to be warping space and traveling within a space bubble. I remember seeing some "experts" interviewed from back in the 50's. They were saying that it may be possible to see a live broadcast on your TV in your house from something going on in another neighboring state by the 1990's or so. They weren't betting on it, but thought it may be possible. Never say never!! 31 minutes ago, SSFB said: 1000 years ago nobody had even made it from Europe to the Americas and since that time humans have stepped foot on another celestial body. All valid points. I'm simply looking at the enormity of the challenge. Just because we prove its possible doesn't mean the ability to do it will ever be reached. The mere calculations of what it takes compared to what we've achieved needs to be considered. Maybe we will come up with something amazing in the next 25-50-100 years regarding energy and travel. I'm just looking at the broad picture of it all. The measurable gain from the ability to sail the oceans to walking on the moon to walking on the moon to achieving the ability to bend space or reach light speed is not even really comparable. "Particles that have mass require energy to accelerate them. The closer to the speed of light you get a particle, the more energy is required to go faster. This is because the particles themselves get more massive in proportion to the increased velocity. This explains why nothing can travel faster than light – at or near light speed, any extra energy you put into an object does not make it move faster but just increases its mass. Mass and energy are the same thing – this is a profoundly important result." https://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/jan/12/einstein-theory-of-relativity-speed-of-light Very good read by Stephen Hawking. http://www.hawking.org.uk/space-and-time-warps.html Edited February 23, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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