Mainecat Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Rep Seth Moulton nails it....... 'Thats the definition of treason': Democratic lawmaker levels serious charge against Trump admin Source: RawStory ‘That’s the definition of treason’: Democratic lawmaker levels serious charge against Trump administration SARAH K. BURRIS 14 FEB 2017 AT 13:49 ET Rep. Seth Moulton (D-MA) used the word “treason” when describing Gen. Michael Flynn’s actions. However, his concern is not Flynn but the role the president played in these series of Russian scandals. “The bigger problem, the scandal of the century, not the scandal of the week, is this ongoing relationship with Russia,” the former Marine told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer Tuesday. “There is no question it’s the unequivocal conclusion of all our intelligence agencies that Russia wanted Donald Trump to be elected president. Either that’s just because they think Trump is Putin’s buddy and he is going to do his bidding or because they have material they can use against the administration. We don’t need to just know what Flynn knew or when his associates in the White House knew, we need to know what Russia knows and what they still hold over the heads of the people in the White House.” Moulton said he doesn’t believe anything in Washington happens in a vacuum, whether it’s a meeting or a phone call. “Let’s not lose perspective on exactly who we’re talking about here,” he continued. “If members of the administration are essentially conspiring with Russia, either through the campaign earlier, now than the — look, Wolf, that’s the definition of treason. This is a very, very serious affair. We all have to understand what’s going on with Michael Flynn, but we can’t let this little scandal or perhaps a big scandal at the moment let us lose sight of the much bigger scandal, which is what is the overall connection between Russia and the Trump administration.” Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/thats-the-definition-of-treason-democratic-lawmaker-levels-serious-charge-against-trump-administration/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cold War Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Mainecat said: Rep “The bigger problem, the scandal of the century, not the scandal of the week, is this ongoing relationship with Russia,” -against-trump-administration/ Come on man. Are people really eating this garbage up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted February 14, 2017 Author Share Posted February 14, 2017 I have met Seth on a few occasions and I have the utmost respect for him. Its the start. Trumps days are numbered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleroule Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mainecat said: I have met Seth on a few occasions and I have the utmost respect for him. Its the start. Trumps days are numbered. yep...only 2897 to go. Edited February 14, 2017 by oleroule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old indy Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 The real scandal of the century is still HILLARY CLINTON and her acts of treason. Lets address those crimes and "level charges" where they belong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 remember this? http://www.forbes.com/2009/08/27/ted-kennedy-soviet-union-ronald-reagan-opinions-columnists-peter-robinson.html Ted Kennedy's Soviet Gambit Picking his way through the Soviet archives that Boris Yeltsin had just thrown open, in 1991 Tim Sebastian, a reporter for the London Times, came across an arresting memorandum. Composed in 1983 by Victor Chebrikov, the top man at the KGB, the memorandum was addressed to Yuri Andropov, the top man in the entire USSR. The subject: Sen. Edward Kennedy. “On 9-10 May of this year,” the May 14 memorandum explained, “Sen. Edward Kennedy’s close friend and trusted confidant [John] Tunney was in Moscow.” (Tunney was Kennedy’s law school roommate and a former Democratic senator from California.) “The senator charged Tunney to convey the following message, through confidential contacts, to the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Y. Andropov.” Kennedy’s message was simple. He proposed an unabashed quid pro quo. Kennedy would lend Andropov a hand in dealing with President Reagan. In return, the Soviet leader would lend the Democratic Party a hand in challenging Reagan in the 1984 presidential election. “The only real potential threats to Reagan are problems of war and peace and Soviet-American relations,” the memorandum stated. “These issues, according to the senator, will without a doubt become the most important of the election campaign.” Kennedy made Andropov a couple of specific offers. First he offered to visit Moscow. “The main purpose of the meeting, according to the senator, would be to arm Soviet officials with explanations regarding problems of nuclear disarmament so they may be better prepared and more convincing during appearances in the USA.” Kennedy would help the Soviets deal with Reagan by telling them how to brush up their propaganda. Then he offered to make it possible for Andropov to sit down for a few interviews on American television. “A direct appeal … to the American people will, without a doubt, attract a great deal of attention and interest in the country. … If the proposal is recognized as worthy, then Kennedy and his friends will bring about suitable steps to have representatives of the largest television companies in the USA contact Y.V. Andropov for an invitation to Moscow for the interviews. … The senator underlined the importance that this initiative should be seen as coming from the American side.” Kennedy would make certain the networks gave Andropov air time–and that they rigged the arrangement to look like honest journalism. Kennedy’s motives? “Like other rational people,” the memorandum explained, “[Kennedy] is very troubled by the current state of Soviet-American relations.” But that high-minded concern represented only one of Kennedy’s motives. “Tunney remarked that the senator wants to run for president in 1988,” the memorandum continued. “Kennedy does not discount that during the 1984 campaign, the Democratic Party may officially turn to him to lead the fight against the Republicans and elect their candidate president.” Kennedy proved eager to deal with Andropov–the leader of the Soviet Union, a former director of the KGB and a principal mover in both the crushing of the 1956 Hungarian Revolution and the suppression of the 1968 Prague Spring–at least in part to advance his own political prospects. In 1992, Tim Sebastian published a story about the memorandum in the London Times. Here in the U.S., Sebastian’s story received no attention. In his 2006 book, The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism, historian Paul Kengor reprinted the memorandum in full. “The media,” Kengor says, “ignored the revelation.” “The document,” Kengor continues, “has stood the test of time. I scrutinized it more carefully than anything I’ve ever dealt with as a scholar. I showed the document to numerous authorities who deal with Soviet archival material. No one has debunked the memorandum or shown it to be a forgery. Kennedy’s office did not deny it.” Why bring all this up now? No evidence exists that Andropov ever acted on the memorandum–within eight months, the Soviet leader would be dead–and now that Kennedy himself has died even many of the former senator’s opponents find themselves grieving. Yet precisely because Kennedy represented such a commanding figure–perhaps the most compelling liberal of our day–we need to consider his record in full. Doing so, it turns out, requires pondering a document in the archives of the politburo. When President Reagan chose to confront the Soviet Union, calling it the evil empire that it was, Sen. Edward Kennedy chose to offer aid and comfort to General Secretary Andropov. On the Cold War, the greatest issue of his lifetime, Kennedy got it wrong. Peter Robinson, a research fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University and a former White House speechwriter, writes a weekly column for Forbes. Comments are turned off for this post. Report Corrections Reprints & Permissions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 I see a pant load of Trump deflections above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mainecat said: I see a pant load of Trump deflections above. I see a libtard to senile to remember Kerry, and Fat fuckin Kennedys treason. Edited February 15, 2017 by Sleepr2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 6 hours ago, Mainecat said: I have met Seth on a few occasions and I have the utmost respect for him. Its the start. Trumps days are numbered. Well, if the most prolific liar on FS is respects the guy ya gotta go with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 38 minutes ago, Sleepr2 said: Well, if the most prolific liar on FS is respects the guy ya gotta go with that Really! What a fine ringing endorsement that was for Seth! Damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Just maybe it's the... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 Google Seth Moulton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 LOL, Politics has turned into the new WWF wrestling. TUNE IN THIS WEEKEND WHEN DEMS TAKE ON TRUMP IN THE SCANDAL OF THE CENTURY............Century.....................century..................century. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 13 hours ago, old indy said: The real scandal of the century is still HILLARY CLINTON and her acts of treason. Lets address those crimes and "level charges" where they belong. lol Hillary Cuz she's relevant now right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 13 hours ago, old indy said: The real scandal of the century is still HILLARY CLINTON and her acts of treason. Lets address those crimes and "level charges" where they belong. LMFAO. what acts were those exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: lol Hillary Cuz she's relevant now right? The Huff thinks so.............. They were quoting her today. I can't tell if you guys are being serious about Her not being relevant? Is it a joke, because the left blamed Bush for eight years after he was out of office ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 The Clintons are irrelevant. The Republican party owns Washington now....its on fire and the party is letting it burn because control of congress and the white House is more important than their love of country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 14 minutes ago, Cold War said: The Huff thinks so.............. They were quoting her today. I can't tell if you guys are being serious about Her not being relevant? Is it a joke, because the left blamed Bush for eight years after he was out of office ? Well Bush was President / Hillary was only ever SOS Apples / Oranges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted February 15, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 15, 2017 16 minutes ago, Mainecat said: The Clintons are irrelevant. The Republican party owns Washington now....its on fire and the party is letting it burn because control of congress and the white House is more important than their love of country. but it seems the obama admin lackeys are the ones leaking the info.. Flynn was a harsh Obama critic ever since O fired him from his position as DIA, and Flynn more than anyone else in the administration seemed prepared to guide Trump towards detente with the same Putin regime that had tried to sink Democrats’ chances during the campaign with the DNC and Podesta hackings. Flynn is also famously an Iran hawk, something which the Obama administration was, er, not. Did Team O have the means and motives to take down a man they despised? I’m not even sure it qualifies as a “secret” that Obama appointees were trying to take down Flynn. Last night’s WaPo bombshell about the DOJ warning Trump in January about what Flynn said to the Russian ambassador is littered with Obama administration names in the key details. It was Sally Yates, the acting Attorney General who ended up being fired when she wouldn’t enforce Trump’s travel ban, who took the information about the call to the White House. It was James Clapper and John Brennan who reportedly decided that Flynn’s sanctions talk with the ambassador — which was by all accounts ambiguous — was so grave that Trump needed to know, for fear of potential Russian blackmail. It also stands to reason that Obama guys down the chain would be the bureaucrats most invested in protecting the foreign policy status quo of the last eight years from the one guy in the new intelligence hierarchy who most threatened that status quo. Eli Lake called it a “political assassination” in a column earlier today insofar as Flynn’s destruction serves notice to the rest of the administration that they’d best not get too far on the wrong side of the current natsec establishment. And that establishment includes a lot of Obama fans. The effort, said to include former Obama administration adviser Ben Rhodes—the architect of a separate White House effort to create what he described as a pro-Iran echo chamber—included a small task force of Obama loyalists who deluged media outlets with stories aimed at eroding Flynn’s credibility, multiple sources revealed… “It’s undeniable that the campaign to discredit Flynn was well underway before Inauguration Day, with a very troublesome and politicized series of leaks designed to undermine him,” said one veteran national security adviser with close ties to the White House team. “This pattern reminds me of the lead up to the Iran deal, and probably features the same cast of characters.”… “It’s actually Ben Rhodes, NIAC, and the Iranian mullahs who are celebrating today,” said one veteran foreign policy insider who is close to Flynn and the White House. “They know that the number one target is Iran … [and] they all knew their little sacred agreement with Iran was going to go off the books. So they got rid of Flynn before any of the [secret] agreements even surfaced.”… “The larger issue that should trouble the American people is the far-reaching power of unknown, unelected apparatchiks in the Intelligence Community deciding for themselves both who serves in government and what is an acceptable policy they will allow the elected representatives of the people to pursue,” said the national security adviser quoted above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 "It seems" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted February 15, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 15, 2017 Just now, Mainecat said: "It seems" ummm, that would be my opinion, what I typed.. not anything from the article.. fuck, you're dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 26 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: ummm, that would be my opinion, what I typed.. not anything from the article.. fuck, you're dumb As usual you fall for the "leak" deflection. Meanwhile the treason is not the problem. Fuck your a moronic Trump clown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Mainecat said: The Clintons are irrelevant. The Republican party owns Washington now....its on fire and the party is letting it burn because control of congress and the white House is more important than their love of country. They are getting rid of the lying democrats, Flynn was one. DRAIN THE SWAMP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 29 minutes ago, Mainecat said: As usual you fall for the "leak" deflection. Meanwhile the treason is not the problem. Fuck your a moronic Trump clown And suddenly McLiar is concerned about treason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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