Snowflakes

[StevieWonder]

5 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

That per diem.  lol,

Lol , see being self employed for 30 years I've never had to spell that . 

But if I had to I would know how to negotiate one  

[02sled]

3 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

What is the big difference between Win 7 Pro and Windows 10 that you could be an expert in one and naive in the other?  They are not really different and the OS was never in suspect.

I have done my own repairs and maintenance to my vehicles and powersports in the past and just recently starting doing oil changes, brakes etc to our cars again.  Why?  To teach my son, that its a good lesson to learn as much as you can about as many things as you can.  Hands on skills are fundamental and there is a major shortage coming out of the schools from all levels.  If I spend a day with my son teaching him the fundamentals, its not a cost savings for me when I factor what I could be doing instead, but that is not really the point.

 

There are distinct differences between the two and I also don't use Google Chrome which he was. So I would be unable to specifically tell him to click X then click Y etc. on either to the two, 10 or Chrome. Now if you want to get into the O/S of Windows server 2012 or 2016 or the nuances of the Cisco core DC switches and their configurations you're starting to get into my realm. Or blade server configurations, capacities, thermals, backup power, processing densities, processor capacities etc.

You have your areas of expertise which I am sure you're very good at. As you would be aware IT is a very specialized industry and requires specialization in disciplines.

You have an objective for doing the oil changes etc. which is related to teaching your son. I used to do my own oil changes etc. at one point in time as well. Replaced a rad, a starter, jumped a solenoid with a screwdriver to get a truck going and then replaced it and a few other things in the past however now when I lift the hood I look at it quizzically and take it to the mechanic for their expertise.

Everyone as you have said has their strengths and weaknesses. If I stripped down my snowmobile as some here have done I would likely have parts left over after putting it back together.

[02sled]

27 minutes ago, StevieWonder said:

He is to idiotic to understand anything than what his data centre  will allow , he couldn't even negotiate a per diem lol 

well Stevie... once again your imagination is in overdrive... as an employee of a large company your travel expenses that are allowed are spelled out....

With the consultancy jobs I have done I have negotiated a low consultancy rate and a high per diem rate as one is taxable and the other isn't

[Taillight]

1 hour ago, irv said:

You're a legend in your own mind, aren't you, 02?  

And for someone who never had kids, you actually think, which isn't surprising, that you know what is going on with kids lives this day and age and the society the face today, and everything else for that matter. 

Tell me, and tell the truth now, has anyone outside of this site ever told you, you like to hear yourself talk, especially about things you know zero about? 

i will catch hell for this but i think 02 had a lot of valid points about corporate life and a few good comments about school. kids arnt going to the school because of the dog. it is a benefit of going to that particular school. i went to school because my dad had a big leather belt

flame away

 

[02sled]

3 minutes ago, Taillight said:

i will catch hell for this but i think 02 had a lot of valid points about corporate life and a few good comments about school. kids arnt going to the school because of the dog. it is a benefit of going to that particular school. i went to school because my dad had a big leather belt

flame away

 

big leather belt.... thanks for the humour

[StevieWonder]

15 minutes ago, 02sled said:

well Stevie... once again your imagination is in overdrive... as an employee of a large company your travel expenses that are allowed are spelled out....

With the consultancy jobs I have done I have negotiated a low consultancy rate and a high per diem rate as one is taxable and the other isn't

No imagination on overdrive here , 

But yours definitely is , but it's ok , we know , your the corporate legend . And data centres across the globe still suffer from your exit .

and you have lots of time to talk to yourself , seeing how you love to hear yourself talk . 

 

 

[irv]

13 minutes ago, Taillight said:

i will catch hell for this but i think 02 had a lot of valid points about corporate life and a few good comments about school. kids arnt going to the school because of the dog. it is a benefit of going to that particular school. i went to school because my dad had a big leather belt

flame away

 

Yeah, times have changed, and not necessarily for the better in some circumstances. My point was, 02 knows nothing about kids nowadays other than what he sees and reads in the media, most likely. 

I don't claim to know everything either, but I do know a thing or 2 based on what my son and some of his friends have told me about the school he/they attend. Rules have changed, society has changed, teachers have changed, kids have changed, and numerous other things, so although Cliff may have a point to 2, those are old school ways of thinking don't apply anymore. Things are not as they once were, and he'd no way of knowing that unless he had kids himself. 

I don't know about anyone else, but I got a chuckle out of this! Wonder if 02 would object to wearing one. 

 

 

 

[ArcticCrusher]

26 minutes ago, 02sled said:

There are distinct differences between the two and I also don't use Google Chrome which he was. So I would be unable to specifically tell him to click X then click Y etc. on either to the two, 10 or Chrome. Now if you want to get into the O/S of Windows server 2012 or 2016 or the nuances of the Cisco core DC switches and their configurations you're starting to get into my realm. Or blade server configurations, capacities, thermals, backup power, processing densities, processor capacities etc.

You have your areas of expertise which I am sure you're very good at. As you would be aware IT is a very specialized industry and requires specialization in disciplines.

You have an objective for doing the oil changes etc. which is related to teaching your son. I used to do my own oil changes etc. at one point in time as well. Replaced a rad, a starter, jumped a solenoid with a screwdriver to get a truck going and then replaced it and a few other things in the past however now when I lift the hood I look at it quizzically and take it to the mechanic for their expertise.

Everyone as you have said has their strengths and weaknesses. If I stripped down my snowmobile as some here have done I would likely have parts left over after putting it back together.

Yes IT is rather specialized and we do dabble in it but not hard core.  We just sent out a number of 2016 servers to our customer in SC for an upcoming project  and setup VLans on Rockwell Stratix  switches (Cisco Engines) to support our installs all the time.  However the main focus is process automation.

Sometimes in the field you need to get into things to better understand what is wrong and many times I am seeing them for the first time.  Troubleshooting needs to be extrapolated beyond "I never saw that".

[02sled]

4 minutes ago, irv said:

Yeah, times have changed, and not necessarily for the better in some circumstances. My point was, 02 knows nothing about kids nowadays other than what he sees and reads in the media, most likely. 

I don't claim to know everything either, but I do know a thing or 2 based on what my son and some of his friends have told me about the school he/they attend. Rules have changed, society has changed, teachers have changed, kids have changed, and numerous other things, so although Cliff may have a point to 2, those are old school ways of thinking don't apply anymore. Things are not as they once were, and he'd no way of knowing that unless he had kids himself. 

I don't know about anyone else, but I got a chuckle out of this! Wonder if 02 would object to wearing one. 

 

Yup... everything has changed from what it was. I know and acknowledge that. You and Stevie seem to be skipping by the primary points that I don't think you can disagree with

The education system is supposed to prepare students for their future, teaching them many of the skills and knowledge they need after graduation. Yes or No

The number of, frequency of and intensity of stresses they will face as adults far exceed those they will face as teens. Yes or No

Are the schools actually teaching students how to deal with stress or are they encouraging them to retreat to their safeplace when confronted with stress?

[02sled]

10 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Yes IT is rather specialized and we do dabble in it but not hard core.  We just sent out a number of 2016 servers to our customer in SC for an upcoming project  and setup VLans on Rockwell Stratix  switches (Cisco Engines) to support our installs all the time.  However the main focus is process automation.

Sometimes in the field you need to get into things to better understand what is wrong and many times I am seeing them for the first time.  Troubleshooting needs to be extrapolated beyond "I never saw that".

Your expertise is process automation which I would never pretend to take on. I would leave that to you and other specialists. Much the same as I dabble in network security, firewalls and such but there are people who do nothing but network security all day every day. I leave network security to those with that expertise. Everyone has their own.

Troubleshooting, if you have never seen something before is exactly as you said an extrapolation. Leverage the expertise of what you have seen and know to analytically work through the unique problem. Almost all systems are an evolution of a predecessor. It is rare that anyone develops something net new that doesn't leverage off of legacy systems.

Edited April 6, 2017 by 02sled

[ArcticCrusher]

13 minutes ago, 02sled said:

Yup... everything has changed from what it was. I know and acknowledge that. You and Stevie seem to be skipping by the primary points that I don't think you can disagree with

The education system is supposed to prepare students for their future, teaching them many of the skills and knowledge they need after graduation. Yes or No

The education system is failing kids who are 21st century learners.  These kids are not dumb, in fact quite the opposite, they are just not interested.  This is a major issue in the schools

The number of, frequency of and intensity of stresses they will face as adults far exceed those they will face as teens. Yes or No

At this point and I don't think its really changed much over the decades, kids care most about acceptance and boys getting to know the girls and vice versa.  I will leave out the gender identy discussion for the LGBQ team.  The rest will come like it did for us, how some forget.

Are the schools actually teaching students how to deal with stress or are they encouraging them to retreat to their safeplace when confronted with stress?

Yes they are, before they likely could care less.  

 

[ArcticCrusher]

1 hour ago, 02sled said:

well Stevie... once again your imagination is in overdrive... as an employee of a large company your travel expenses that are allowed are spelled out....

With the consultancy jobs I have done I have negotiated a low consultancy rate and a high per diem rate as one is taxable and the other isn't

How high is your per diem?  You know CRA sets limits.  Its like $55/day and consultancy rates are likely over $1K per day so I would like to see the math.

 

Also, you now have to pay taxes on WIP even if you have not invoiced or collected on.

Edited April 6, 2017 by ArcticCrusher

[02sled]

30 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

How high is your per diem?  You know CRA sets limits.  Its like $55/day and consultancy rates are likely over $1K per day so I would like to see the math.

 

Also, you now have to pay taxes on WIP even if you have not invoiced or collected on.

As you know CRA rules are messy... the per diem has been negotiated uniquely dependent upon the contract. When I say as high as I can and low as I can it is within the allowable limits. Whatever I can do to offset taxable income legally is nice. I used the term per diem broadly in that with CRA food beverage and lodging expenses are separate from vehicle expenses. Most of what I have been doing is based in the US so just to confuse things more the contract is negotiated in US $'s but using the simplified method you can claim for 2016 $51 CDN or US a day including taxes without receipts. In a couple of situations it hasn't created so much of a tangible financial benefit to me but I have had the customer book and pay directly for airfare, hotel and rental car. It then becomes their business expense under their US taxation rules simplifying things for me. All I have had to deal with in those cases are meal expenses which fall under the $51 limit and my service fees.

This is all stuff you would already be familiar with. I imagine for you, you get the accountant to do all of this for you since you have to deal with employee expenses as well. In my case it's just me.

[Renegade X]

2 hours ago, StevieWonder said:

Lol , see being self employed for 30 years I've never had to spell that . 

But if I had to I would know how to negotiate one  

You've been working for 30 years...Fuck you're old balls

[StevieWonder]

12 minutes ago, Renegade X said:

You've been working for 30 years...Fuck you're old balls

I know , good thing I nap during service calls .....

[Reevester]

Sit down class, here's another story from the site shut-in.  

 

[ArcticCrusher]

1 hour ago, 02sled said:

As you know CRA rules are messy... the per diem has been negotiated uniquely dependent upon the contract. When I say as high as I can and low as I can it is within the allowable limits. Whatever I can do to offset taxable income legally is nice. I used the term per diem broadly in that with CRA food beverage and lodging expenses are separate from vehicle expenses. Most of what I have been doing is based in the US so just to confuse things more the contract is negotiated in US $'s but using the simplified method you can claim for 2016 $51 CDN or US a day including taxes without receipts. In a couple of situations it hasn't created so much of a tangible financial benefit to me but I have had the customer book and pay directly for airfare, hotel and rental car. It then becomes their business expense under their US taxation rules simplifying things for me. All I have had to deal with in those cases are meal expenses which fall under the $51 limit and my service fees.

This is all stuff you would already be familiar with. I imagine for you, you get the accountant to do all of this for you since you have to deal with employee expenses as well. In my case it's just me.

My Bro does the invoicing and expenses, the rest of us bring home the bacon.  That per diem is status quo, low actually.  We have been using $55 US for over 15 years and how is it really part of income unless you are starving yourself.  Maybe you can pocket $10/day, the horrors.   

[Puzzleboy]

I would say kids today have more immediate pressures and stresses.  Back in the day, if you pissed me off, I punched you, and you learned your lesson.  Was actually quite therapeutic.

Today, they'll post shit on social media to the point where kids contemplate suicide.  No issue with service animals in schools. 

 

22 hours ago, 02sled said:

I know dogs have a soothing effect and are great for lifting morale in seniors homes, hospitals and more. The point is that if students in high school can't deal with that horrendous stress they are under what are they ever going to do in the real world. You know, paying the bills when you've run out of money but there's still some of the month left over, family dynamics, perhaps losing a job and so much more. Businesses where dogs are found are rare exceptions. Like you said, the owners dog. 

[revrnd]

11 minutes ago, Puzzleboy said:

I would say kids today have more immediate pressures and stresses.  Back in the day, if you pissed me off, I punched you, and you learned your lesson.  Was actually quite therapeutic.

Today, they'll post shit on social media to the point where kids contemplate suicide.  No issue with service animals in schools. 

 

Or include guns and knives w/ the resolution. I saw a few fights (pretty anti-climactic actually) during my 4 years. Kind of like the Super Bowl, lots of hype thru the day & pretty much a let down at the end of the day.

[Puzzleboy]

Yes, weapons were a rarity back then, thankfully. 

[Poncho]

35 minutes ago, Puzzleboy said:

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Today, they'll post shit on social media to the point where kids contemplate suicide.  No issue with service animals in schools. 

 

Kind of like the shit posted on Freedomsledder....lol.....not to mention the service animals.....lol

[ArcticCrusher]

51 minutes ago, Puzzleboy said:

I would say kids today have more immediate pressures and stresses.  Back in the day, if you pissed me off, I punched you, and you learned your lesson.  Was actually quite therapeutic.

Today, they'll post shit on social media to the point where kids contemplate suicide.  No issue with service animals in schools. 

 

Perhaps 02 prefers back in the day lessons learned.  Lol. 

[Poncho]

1 hour ago, Puzzleboy said:

Yes, weapons were a rarity back then, thankfully. 

Nope.....not rare at all, as a matter of fact, we all cared a knife in the 60's and 70's and we took them to school......back then we used a knife to open pop cans, carve wood and make stuff for art class and so on, but never as a weapon, ever...it was normal to have a knife back in the good old days......

 

Not so normal for guns...but in that respect, Canada lead the way for school shootings, I was there and witnessed......3 dead, 14 wounded.....sucked.....never forget that stuff.

 

Edited April 7, 2017 by Poncho

[Frostynuts]

22 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said:

 I not sure how important marks really are anymore.  Esp with today's 21st century kids being suffocated in a 19th century learning environment and when any technical challenge comes around the teacher just lets any student handle it rather than looking incompetent themselves.  I feel sorry for them being bored out of their minds gifted with the tools to succeed, but can't use them and being help back.

All schools need aptitude tests for kids at a very early age, I would say around 10 years old, grades 4-5.

This would give them some idea of what they could excel at, and start heading in that direction.

Everyone likes being good at what they do, give them a chance and direction. Find out early what peaks the kids interests.  

Way to many kids to-day coming out of colleges and universities these days with zero idea about what field they want to go into.  

I,ve seen lots of great kids that did poorly in schools finally end up with great jobs, because they finally found a job in the field where they had an interest. Whether they are carpenters, electricians, computer geeks, it doesn,t matter, if they have an interest in it and like it, most will do a great job.

The tough part is finding the proper line of work that fits the person. Unfortunately, book smart does not always translate to job smart.

 

[irv]

11 hours ago, Poncho said:

Nope.....not rare at all, as a matter of fact, we all cared a knife in the 60's and 70's and we took them to school......back then we used a knife to open pop cans, carve wood and make stuff for art class and so on, but never as a weapon, ever...it was normal to have a knife back in the good old days......

 

Not so normal for guns...but in that respect, Canada lead the way for school shootings, I was there and witnessed......3 dead, 14 wounded.....sucked.....never forget that stuff.

 

Sorry to hear, Poncho. Although, thankfully, I never witnessed it, I lost my best friend in grade 2. His Father decided to come home after having a bad day at work, I suppose, and decided to shoot his whole family. One daughter got away but of course everyone else, (4-5 kids) were murdered, and his father took his own life.

I vaguely remember that instance when I was told about it in school the next day. My buddy wasn't there and when the teacher came in crying, I knew something wasn't right. We had no counseling, no explanation, nothing. It was tough to swallow and I have no doubts it affected for a very long time.