Mainecat Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Donald Trump, who never served in the military, goes after Senate veterans Source: CNN (CNN) When he wanted to dispute a Democratic Senator over his Supreme Court nominee, President Donald Trump went after the senator's misstatements about serving in Vietnam. And as he defends the first military mission he approved, Trump, who did not himself serve in the military or Vietnam, is again tangling with fellow Republican John McCain, a decorated Vietnam veteran and former POW. The decision to take on veterans could put Trump on shaky ground: The President never served in the military and received student and health deferments that kept him out of serving in the war. In a string of tweets on Thursday morning, Trump took on McCain for suggesting his first military action -- a raid in Yemen that netted intelligence against ISIS, but cost the lives Navy SEAL Chief Petty Officer William "Ryan" Owens and a number of Yemeni civilians -- was not a success. Trump also lashed out against Democratic Sen. Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut, who told reporters on Wednesday that Neil Gorsuch, Trump's Supreme Court pick, told him that he felt Trump's comments about the judiciary branch were "demoralizing" and "disheartening." Trump's tweets appear to be an attempt to quiet dissent, even from those within his party. Read more: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/02/09/politics/donald-trump-military-service-veterans-mccain/index.html?client=safari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Good God , what a garbage article. You don't " misspeak" about being in Vietnam, when you weren't. It is not even in the same realm as not serving. Was he disparaging McCain on his service after the raid? How disgusting ....Of CNN and then to repost that shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 At a ceremony honoring veterans and senior citizens who sent presents to soldiers overseas, Attorney General Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut rose and spoke of an earlier time in his life. “We have learned something important since the days that I served in Vietnam,” Mr. Blumenthal said to the group gathered in Norwalk in March 2008. “And you exemplify it. Whatever we think about the war, whatever we call it — Afghanistan or Iraq — we owe our military men and women unconditional support.” There was one problem: Mr. Blumenthal, a Democrat now running for the United States Senate, never served in Vietnam. He obtained at least five military deferments from 1965 to 1970 and took repeated steps that enabled him to avoid going to war, according to records. The deferments allowed Mr. Blumenthal to complete his studies at Harvard; pursue a graduate fellowship in England; serve as a special assistant to The Washington Post’s publisher, Katharine Graham; and ultimately take a job in the Nixon White House. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/18/nyregion/18blumenthal.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 What a POS. But, according to CNN .......Fake veterans deserve the upmost respect. Lying about serving is better than never serving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, Cold War said: What a POS. But, according to CNN .......Fake veterans deserve the upmost respect. Lying about serving is better than never serving. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted February 9, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 9, 2017 MC = why Trump won 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 53 minutes ago, Cold War said: What a POS. But, according to CNN .......Fake veterans deserve the upmost respect. Lying about serving is better than never serving. He was a reservist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 john McCain is a worthless leftist . yeah yeah he was a war prisoner . so were 2 members of my family and they never brought it up to any one let alone make a career out of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 Imagine if Obama dissed veterans like that piece of shit Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Imagine if Obama dissed veterans like that piece of shit Trump. He was too busy dissing law enforcement officers to have time for the veterans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Kevin said: He was too busy dissing law enforcement officers to have time for the veterans. Really? A link would support your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted February 9, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted February 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Snake said: At a ceremony honoring veterans and senior citizens who sent presents to soldiers overseas, Attorney General Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut rose and spoke of an earlier time in his life. “We have learned something important since the days that I served in Vietnam,” Mr. Blumenthal said to the group gathered in Norwalk in March 2008. “And you exemplify it. Whatever we think about the war, whatever we call it — Afghanistan or Iraq — we owe our military men and women unconditional support.” There was one problem: Mr. Blumenthal, a Democrat now running for the United States Senate, never served in Vietnam. He obtained at least five military deferments from 1965 to 1970 and took repeated steps that enabled him to avoid going to war, according to records. The deferments allowed Mr. Blumenthal to complete his studies at Harvard; pursue a graduate fellowship in England; serve as a special assistant to The Washington Post’s publisher, Katharine Graham; and ultimately take a job in the Nixon White House. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/18/nyregion/18blumenthal.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 Out of curiosity, how do you feel about Trump's comment regarding John McCain? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 27 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: He was a reservist. Yeah ,I know. He is the one who is unclear on his service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) trump has used mccain's service to club him with for a few years now. refresh my memory trump humpers....bone spurs? trump is an authentic piece of shit Edited February 9, 2017 by spin_dry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 31 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: john McCain is a worthless leftist . yeah yeah he was a war prisoner . so were 2 members of my family and they never brought it up to any one let alone make a career out of it Please do tell us again how you fell off your snowmobile and took a day off from riding Quote Naval training, first marriage, and Vietnam assignment McCain's early military career began when he was commissioned an ensign and started two and a half years of training at Pensacola to become a naval aviator.[15] While there, he earned a reputation as a partying man.[6]He completed flight school in 1960, and became a naval pilot of ground-attack aircraft, assigned to A-1 Skyraider squadrons[16] aboard the aircraft carriers USS Intrepid and USS Enterprise[17] in the Caribbean and Mediterranean Seas.[18] McCain began as a sub-par flier[18] who was at times careless and reckless;[19] during the early to mid-1960s, the planes he was flying crashed twice and once collided with power lines, but he received no major injuries.[19] His aviation skills improved over time,[18] and he was seen as a good pilot, albeit one who tended to "push the envelope" in his flying.[19] On July 3, 1965, McCain married Carol Shepp, a model originally from Philadelphia.[20] McCain adopted her two young children Douglas and Andrew.[17][21] He and Carol then had a daughter named Sidney.[22][23] McCain requested a combat assignment,[24] and was assigned to the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal flying A-4 Skyhawks.[25] His combat duty began when he was 30 years old, in mid-1967, when Forrestal was assigned to a bombing campaign, Operation Rolling Thunder, during the Vietnam War.[20][26] Stationed in the Gulf of Tonkin, McCain and his fellow pilots became frustrated by micromanagement from Washington, and he would later write that "In all candor, we thought our civilian commanders were complete idiots who didn't have the least notion of what it took to win the war."[26][27] On July 29, 1967, McCain, by then a lieutenant commander, was near the epicenter of the USS Forrestal fire. He escaped from his burning jet and was trying to help another pilot escape when a bomb exploded;[28]McCain was struck in the legs and chest by fragments.[29] The ensuing fire killed 134 sailors and took 24 hours to control.[30][31] With the Forrestal out of commission, McCain volunteered for assignment with the USS Oriskany, another aircraft carrier employed in Operation Rolling Thunder.[32] Once there, he would be awarded the Navy Commendation Medal and the Bronze Star for missions flown over North Vietnam.[33] Prisoner of war McCain's capture and subsequent imprisonment began on October 26, 1967. He was flying his 23rd bombing mission over North Vietnam when his A-4E Skyhawk was shot down by a missile over Hanoi.[34][35] McCain fractured both arms and a leg ejecting from the aircraft,[36] and nearly drowned when he parachuted into Trúc Bạch Lake.[34] Some North Vietnamese pulled him ashore, then others crushed his shoulder with a rifle butt and bayoneted him.[34] McCain was then transported to Hanoi's main Hỏa Lò Prison, nicknamed the "Hanoi Hilton".[35] Although McCain was badly wounded, his captors refused to treat his injuries, beating and interrogating him to get information; he was given medical care only when the North Vietnamese discovered that his father was a high-ranking admiral.[37] His status as a prisoner of war (POW) made the front pages of major newspapers.[38][39] McCain spent six weeks in the hospital while receiving marginal care.[34] By then having lost 50 pounds (23 kg), in a chest cast, and with his gray hair turned white as snow,[34] McCain was sent to a different camp on the outskirts of Hanoi[40] in December 1967, into a cell with two other Americans who did not expect him to live a week.[41] In March 1968, McCain was put into solitary confinement, where he would remain for two years.[42] In mid-1968, John S. McCain Jr. was named commander of all U.S. forces in the Vietnam theater, and the North Vietnamese offered McCain early release[44] because they wanted to appear merciful for propaganda purposes,[45] and also to show other POWs that elite prisoners were willing to be treated preferentially.[44] McCain turned down the offer; he would only accept repatriation if every man taken in before him was released as well. Such early release was prohibited by the POW's interpretation of the military Code of Conduct: To prevent the enemy from using prisoners for propaganda, officers were to agree to be released in the order in which they were captured.[34] In August 1968, a program of severe torture began on McCain.[46] He was subjected to rope bindings and repeated beatings every two hours, at the same time as he was suffering from dysentery.[34][46] Further injuries led to the beginning of a suicide attempt, stopped by guards.[34] Eventually, McCain made an anti-American propaganda "confession".[34] He has always felt that his statement was dishonorable, but as he later wrote, "I had learned what we all learned over there: Every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine."[47][48] Many American POWs were tortured and maltreated in order to extract "confessions" and propaganda statements;[49] virtually all of them eventually yielded something to their captors.[50] McCain subsequently received two to three beatings weekly because of his continued refusal to sign additional statements.[51] McCain refused to meet with various anti-war groups seeking peace in Hanoi, wanting to give neither them nor the North Vietnamese a propaganda victory.[52] From late 1969 onward, treatment of McCain and many of the other POWs became more tolerable,[53]while McCain continued actively to resist the camp authorities.[54] McCain and other prisoners cheered the U.S. "Christmas Bombing" campaign of December 1972, viewing it as a forceful measure to push North Vietnam to terms.[48][55] Altogether, McCain was a prisoner of war in North Vietnam for five and a half years. He was released on March 14, 1973.[56] His wartime injuries left him permanently incapable of raising his arms above his head.[57] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 39 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: john McCain is a worthless leftist . yeah yeah he was a war prisoner . so were 2 members of my family and they never brought it up to any one let alone make a career out of it He was the world's greatest war hero according to you guys in 2008 and a genius for picking Palin as his running mate. My how things change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: He was the world's greatest war hero according to you guys in 2008 and a genius for picking Palin as his running mate. My how things change not according to me . and yeah yeah he has a war record and has milked it for all it was worth . my grandfather was shot down over Germany and was used as target practice as he drifted down right next to a ss training camp . he was taken to a pow camp with no medical attention . a Russian doctor was was a prisoner at the camp and he did surgery on a picnic table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Ez ryder said: not according to me . and yeah yeah he has a war record and has milked it for all it was worth . my grandfather was shot down over Germany and was used as target practice as he drifted down right next to a ss training camp . he was taken to a pow camp with no medical attention . a Russian doctor was was a prisoner at the camp and he did surgery on a picnic table So McCain getting shot down and tortured isn't the same how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: So McCain getting shot down and tortured isn't the same how? not saying it is diff just that people I know who went through same shit did not make a career out of it in fact almost know one knew . unlike the golden leftist who sends his attack people out to remind us that he went to war for this country Edited February 10, 2017 by Ez ryder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Rosenberg Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I see our President being at odds with a war monger like Sen Mcain as a good thing for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: not saying it is diff just that people I know who went through same shit did not make a career out of it in fact almost know one knew . unlike the golden leftist who sends his attack people out to remind us that he went to war for this country do you really believe what you just wrote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 100% I do believe what I wrote . how can u not see it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 What branch of the military did Hilliary. Obambi and the Sinkmaster serve in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 54 minutes ago, spin_dry said: do you really believe what you just wrote? Many here wonder that same thing when you post, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Cold War said: What a POS. But, according to CNN .......Fake veterans deserve the upmost respect. Lying about serving is better than never serving. Um not just no, FUCK NO 2 hours ago, Rigid1 said: MC = why Trump won yep 1 hour ago, Mainecat said: Imagine if Obama dissed veterans like that piece of shit Trump. He was to busy disrespecting law enforcement and the entire white race 1 hour ago, Kevin said: He was too busy dissing law enforcement officers to have time for the veterans. Yep John McCain is a useless fucking POS who should just retired already because he doesn't do dick anyway. That statement there doesn't have anything to do with him being a former Navy pilot and POW. He's is a useless senator. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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