Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 14, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) Maybe the left will start understand what Islam is about. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/13/farrokh-sekaleshfar-imam-speaking-orlando-said-gay/ An Islamic scholar who spoke earlier this year at an Orlando mosque has previously said gay people should be killed according to Islamic law “out of compassion.” “Death is the sentence,” Sheikh Farrokh Sekaleshfar said at a speech at the Husseini Islamic Center in Orlando in 2013. “We know. There’s nothing to be embarrassed about this. Death is the sentence.” “We have to have that compassion for people,” he continued. “With homosexuals, it’s the same. Out of compassion, let’s get rid of them now.” Edited June 14, 2016 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 The left needs to get their head out of their ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, racer254 said: The left needs to get their head out of their ass. Hell they don't seem to be able to do chit about gang violence right in this country.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 14, 2016 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 14, 2016 Just now, Capt.Storm said: Hell they don't seem to be able to do chit about gang violence right in this country.. If you cannot accurately identify the problem there is no way to fix it. The lefts root cause analysis for any violence always is guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Highmark said: If you cannot accurately identify the problem there is no way to fix it. The lefts root cause analysis for any violence always is guns. yeah..it can't be the breakdown of family's ...missing dads and mom's on drugs...just can't be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Capt.Storm said: yeah..it can't be the breakdown of family's ...missing dads and mom's on drugs...just can't be. The left has promoted single families with their social programs. Their policies are ruining this country and I can only hope that people are waking up to that simple fact. We continuously get worse because of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Maybe I should rethink my stance on abortion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 14, 2016 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, racer254 said: The left has promoted single families with their social programs. Their policies are ruining this country and I can only hope that people are waking up to that simple fact. We continuously get worse because of them. 7 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said: Maybe I should rethink my stance on abortion. We can't legislate our population to morality but breakdown of the family is and will continue to be a huge issue in America. Fact is Roe v. Wade did not help it. If you look at average annual income and some other statistics like crime by race those that have the highest % of 2 parent households earn the most and commit the least amount of crime and whites are not on top, Asian American's are. http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/01/21/roe-vs-wade-continues-to-haunt-americas-moral-and-constitutional-order.html In one week during January 1973, President Richard M. Nixon was inaugurated to his second term, former President Lyndon B. Johnson died, the United States and North Vietnam entered into the Paris Peace Accords, and the Supreme Court legalized abortion. Only the last of these events continues to affect and haunt the moral and constitutional order every minute of every day. The Court’s decision in Roe vs. Wade is arguably its most controversial in the post-World War II era. Its effect has been as pernicious to human life as was its 19th century intellectual progenitor, Dred Scott vs. Sanford, in which the Supreme Court ruled that African-Americans are not persons. Roe declares that the states may not ban abortions during the first trimester of a woman’s pregnancy because the states have no interest in or right to protect the baby during that time period. This made-up rule was a radical and unconstitutional departure from nearly 200 years of jurisprudence, during which the states themselves decided what interests to protect, guided since the end of the Civil War by the prohibition on slavery, and the requirements of due process and equal protection. During the second trimester of pregnancy, the Court declared in Roe, states may regulate abortions but only to protect the health of the mother, not the life or health of the baby, in which, the Court found, the states have no interest. This, too, was a radical departure from well-settled law. Under Roe, during the third trimester of pregnancy, the states may ban abortions or they may permit them; they may protect the life of the baby or they may not protect it. This diabolic rule, the product of judicial compromise and an embarrassing and destructive rejection of the Civil War era constitutional amendments, permits the states to allow abortions up to the moment before birth, as is the law in New Jersey, where the state even pays for abortions for those who cannot afford them. The linchpin of Roe vs. Wade is the judicial determination that the baby in the womb is not a person. The Court felt it was legally necessary to make this dreadful declaration because the Constitution guarantees due process (a fair jury trial, and its attendant constitutional protections) whenever the government wants to interfere with the life, liberty or property of any person; and it prohibits the states from permitting some persons to violate the basic human rights of others, as was the case under slavery. As the Supreme Court sometimes does, it ruled on an issue and came to a conclusion that none of the litigants before it had sought. Roe candidly recognizes that if the fetus in the womb is a person, then all laws permitting abortion are unconstitutional. The Court understood that abortion and fetal personhood would constitute the states permitting private persons to murder other persons. So, in order to accommodate the killing, it simply redefined the meaning of “person,” lest it permit a state of affairs that due process and the prohibition of slavery could never tolerate. George Orwell predicted this horrific and totalitarian use of words in 1949 in his unnerving description of tyranny, “1984.” Is the fetus in the womb a person? No court has contradicted the Supreme Court on this, and the Roe supporters argue that non-personhood is necessary for sexual freedom. Think about that: The pro-abortion rights crowd, rejecting the natural and probable consequences of ordinary, healthy sexual intercourse, wants to continue to kill babies in the name of sexual freedom. I take a back seat to no one when it comes to personal freedom. But the freedom to kill innocents violates all norms of civilized society. It violates the natural law. It wasn’t even condoned in the state of nature, before governments existed. It violates the 13th and 14th Amendments. Yet, the Supreme Court and numerous Congresses have refused to interfere with it. It is a grave and profound evil. It is legalized murder. Is the fetus in the womb a person? Since the fetus has human parents and all the needed human genome to develop postnatally, of course the fetus is a person. A simple one-line statute could have been enacted when Ronald Reagan or George W. Bush were in the White House and Republicans and pro-life Democrats (the handful that have made it to Congress) controlled the Congress. They could have ended the slaughter by legislatively defining the fetus in the womb to be a person. They did not. Are the self-proclaimed pro-life folks in Congress sincere, or do they march under the pro-life banner just to win votes? Their failure to attempt to define the fetus in the womb as a person seriously, and the Supreme Court’s unprecedented dance around the requirement of due process and the prohibition of slavery has resulted in 44 million abortions in 43 years. That’s an abortion every minute. Abortion is today the most frequent medical procedure performed in America; and the Democrats have become its champion. They, and their few Republican allies, have become the champions of totalitarianism as well. The removal of legal personhood from human offspring in order to destroy the offspring is only the work of tyrants. How long can a society last that violates universal norms and kills its babies in the name of “sexual freedom”? Whose personhood will the government define away next? Edited June 14, 2016 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: We can't legislate our population to morality . Yep..I have said that on here a few times now and that means our politicians are pretty much worthless- correct? Edited June 14, 2016 by Capt.Storm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 some say that religion helps keep people in line morally ..but yet religion imo and others have started a lot of wars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 14, 2016 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said: . Yep..I have said that on here a few times now and that means our politicians are pretty much worthless- correct? Not entirely. They can make personal responsibility more of factor in our laws. One of the real downfalls of the American family was when the govt starting doing too much for the people creating an entitlement mentality that rots us to this day. Nobody is saying people in need don't need and deserve help, we've just taken it way to far. Trillions spent on poverty has gotten us nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Just now, Highmark said: Not entirely. They can make personal responsibility more of factor in our laws. One of the real downfalls of the American family was when the govt starting doing too much for the people creating an entitlement mentality that rots us to this day. Nobody is saying people in need don't need and deserve help, we've just taken it way to far. Trillions spent on poverty has gotten us nowhere. I doubt we could ever go back though to the 50's or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Capt.Storm said: I doubt we could ever go back though to the 50's or whatever. No, but if they are a deadbeat, then call them deadbeats. Instead, they just pander for votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 14, 2016 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Capt.Storm said: I doubt we could ever go back though to the 50's or whatever. It would be tough with how Hollywood props up the nontraditional family so much but like I said a big start would be a change in the laws and perception that the govt is here to take care of you no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 1 minute ago, ArcticCrusher said: No, but if they are a deadbeat, then call them deadbeats. Instead, they just pander for votes. Like that's going to happen..lol. 1 minute ago, Highmark said: It would be tough with how Hollywood props up the nontraditional family so much but like I said a big start would be a change in the laws and perception that the govt is here to take care of you no matter what. well even if that could happen it would take forever. I say clean up the inner cities with whatever it takes to do it. marshal law if need be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Why is Snowrider noticeably absent from this thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 1 minute ago, jtssrx said: Why is Snowrider noticeably absent from this thread? Because it requires logical thought. Anytime that he may deviate from the dnc talking points he doesn't respond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 The muslims have to clean up their own back yards..until they do,nothing but chaos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 11 minutes ago, jtssrx said: Why is Snowrider noticeably absent from this thread? Its pretty obvious Christians are in the clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmeeAgain Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 59 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said: some say that religion helps keep people in line morally ..but yet religion imo and others have started a lot of wars. Have you noticed how religious many in the inner city are? They seem to have the least value on life of anyone. Go figure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 To my Canadian friends: is religion such a big factor in Canda as it is her here in the U.S.? Seems like every where here there is a church of some kind on every corner..if not that it's a bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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