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4 minutes ago, Snake said:

The Electoral College is a process, not a place. The founding fathers established it in the Constitution as a compromise between election of the President by a vote in Congress and election of the President by a popular vote of qualified citizens.

https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/about.html

Idiot fucking Nooks think they know..... :lol:

Haha, it's cute how you think you're adding something new and relevant to the discussion.

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Just now, ICEMAN! said:

Haha, it's cute how you think you're adding something new and relevant to the discussion.

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Who am I gonna believe, the National Archives, or a fucking bisexual from Canada. :lmao:

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14 minutes ago, Snake said:

Who am I gonna believe, the National Archives, or a fucking bisexual from Canada. :lmao:

How about quotes from the actual founding fathers?

The reason that the Constitution calls for this extra layer, rather than just providing for the direct election of the president, is that most of the nation’s founders were actually rather afraid of democracy. James Madison worried about what he called “factions,” which he defined as groups of citizens who have a common interest in some proposal that would either violate the rights of other citizens or would harm the nation as a whole. Madison’s fear – which Alexis de Tocqueville later dubbed “the tyranny of the majority” – was that a faction could grow to encompass more than 50 percent of the population, at which point it could “sacrifice to its ruling passion or interest both the public good and the rights of other citizens.” Madison has a solution for tyranny of the majority: “A republic, by which I mean a government in which the scheme of representation takes place, opens a different prospect, and promises the cure for which we are seeking.”

As Alexander Hamilton writes in “The Federalist Papers,” the Constitution is designed to ensure “that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.” The point of the Electoral College is to preserve “the sense of the people,” while at the same time ensuring that a president is chosen “by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.”

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-reason-for-the-electoral-college/

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16 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said:

How about quotes from the actual founding fathers?

The reason that the Constitution calls for this extra layer, rather than just providing for the direct election of the president, is that most of the nation’s founders were actually rather afraid of democracy. James Madison worried about what he called “factions,” which he defined as groups of citizens who have a common interest in some proposal that would either violate the rights of other citizens or would harm the nation as a whole. Madison’s fear – which Alexis de Tocqueville later dubbed “the tyranny of the majority” – was that a faction could grow to encompass more than 50 percent of the population, at which point it could “sacrifice to its ruling passion or interest both the public good and the rights of other citizens.” Madison has a solution for tyranny of the majority: “A republic, by which I mean a government in which the scheme of representation takes place, opens a different prospect, and promises the cure for which we are seeking.”

As Alexander Hamilton writes in “The Federalist Papers,” the Constitution is designed to ensure “that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.” The point of the Electoral College is to preserve “the sense of the people,” while at the same time ensuring that a president is chosen “by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.”

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-reason-for-the-electoral-college/

The National Archives, or Factcheck.

Tough call...

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1 hour ago, ICEMAN! said:

How about quotes from the actual founding fathers?

The reason that the Constitution calls for this extra layer, rather than just providing for the direct election of the president, is that most of the nation’s founders were actually rather afraid of democracy. James Madison worried about what he called “factions,” which he defined as groups of citizens who have a common interest in some proposal that would either violate the rights of other citizens or would harm the nation as a whole. Madison’s fear – which Alexis de Tocqueville later dubbed “the tyranny of the majority” – was that a faction could grow to encompass more than 50 percent of the population, at which point it could “sacrifice to its ruling passion or interest both the public good and the rights of other citizens.” Madison has a solution for tyranny of the majority: “A republic, by which I mean a government in which the scheme of representation takes place, opens a different prospect, and promises the cure for which we are seeking.”

As Alexander Hamilton writes in “The Federalist Papers,” the Constitution is designed to ensure “that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.” The point of the Electoral College is to preserve “the sense of the people,” while at the same time ensuring that a president is chosen “by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.”

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-reason-for-the-electoral-college/

you just owned yourself, idiot.

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5 hours ago, ICEMAN! said:

How about quotes from the actual founding fathers?

The reason that the Constitution calls for this extra layer, rather than just providing for the direct election of the president, is that most of the nation’s founders were actually rather afraid of democracy. James Madison worried about what he called “factions,” which he defined as groups of citizens who have a common interest in some proposal that would either violate the rights of other citizens or would harm the nation as a whole. Madison’s fear – which Alexis de Tocqueville later dubbed “the tyranny of the majority” – was that a faction could grow to encompass more than 50 percent of the population, at which point it could “sacrifice to its ruling passion or interest both the public good and the rights of other citizens.” Madison has a solution for tyranny of the majority: “A republic, by which I mean a government in which the scheme of representation takes place, opens a different prospect, and promises the cure for which we are seeking.”

As Alexander Hamilton writes in “The Federalist Papers,” the Constitution is designed to ensure “that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.” The point of the Electoral College is to preserve “the sense of the people,” while at the same time ensuring that a president is chosen “by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.”

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-reason-for-the-electoral-college/

Fascinating.  I bet thats the 273rd time I've read those quotes.  Riveting.  Democrats lost.  Trump is going to be our president.  Good.

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4 hours ago, oleroule said:

you just owned yourself, idiot.

As Alexander Hamilton writes in “The Federalist Papers,” the Constitution is designed to ensure “that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.”

 

Hey stupid, that's the definition of an escape valve so no, I'm not wrong.  

 

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15 hours ago, ICEMAN! said:

Why would patriots object to EC voters exercising their constitutional right to vote the best way they see fit?  That was the whole point of the EC to act as an escape valve on the electoral process to keep someone out of office who isn't fit.

This has happened four times before. The problem today is people are more informed with TV and the internet. Im not sure this would be allowed to happen today. If trump was elected 75 years ago the electoral college may pick someone else . I just can't see it happening today.  I think that's why you see these shame recounts. The Michigan recount is dead now. Wayne county where Detroit is was going to have to give up 2/3 of the votes because of fraud. The democrats gave in because Trump was going to win Michigan in a landslide. He's also gaining votes in Wisconsin.

 

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1 minute ago, bussman said:

Odds on him being sworn in? 

Odds on him if he does get sworn in making it a year before getting a bullet or "cancer"? 

 

 

odds of him creating a surge of troops in the middle east/afghanistan ??

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