Renegade X Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 hour ago, 1trailmaker said: 2017 being first is now Trumps doings my god how stupid Yes Trump lowered corporate taxes not anything else - you know giving Billionaires more money - Places like Wal-Mart I think lowering taxes for the masses is far better According to the folks here Harper had a recession his entire term and that is why he spent the second most in history - How do you see it? Harper's magic balanced budget just 6 months before the election was great timing, from 10 billion just months prior to balance Too bad OIL isn't 100 a barrel anymore tell me RX are you worst off today or 5 years ago, be honest because most to the country is far better off Our economy is closely aligned with the States. To deny that is the stupid thing. Harper got us through the recession in 08 very well, another thing you can not deny. As far as 5 years ago to now? Ahh pretty much everything is twice the price, HST is applied to everything, some even after its already taxed. Its tax tax tax now, so I'd say we were better off 5 years ago. Better yet, tell me something that is cheaper now then it was 5 years ago So can you answer my questions now? Capitol gains and your friends?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, Renegade X said: Our economy is closely aligned with the States. To deny that is the stupid thing. Harper got us through the recession in 08 very well, another thing you can not deny. As far as 5 years ago to now? Ahh pretty much everything is twice the price, HST is applied to everything, some even after its already taxed. Its tax tax tax now, so I'd say we were better off 5 years ago. Better yet, tell me something that is cheaper now then it was 5 years ago So can you answer my questions now? Capitol gains and your friends?? Yes I have said this for decades, people here give credit for good economy to a conservative party but not to a liberal one. I personally don't give much credit at all to Governments, they don't sell i-phones. Now having said that Trump got lucky with his timing just like Trudeau did with record employment and stock markets. To say one person is responsible for all of this is just wrong. You are paying twice the tax as 5 years ago? where do you live? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade X Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 minute ago, 1trailmaker said: Yes I have said this for decades, people here give credit for good economy to a conservative party but not to a liberal one. I personally don't give much credit at all to Governments, they don't sell i-phones. Now having said that Trump got lucky with his timing just like Trudeau did with record employment and stock markets. To say one person is responsible for all of this is just wrong. You are paying twice the tax as 5 years ago? where do you live? I live in Ontario just like you. Tax is way higher, do you not think so? Why do you keep dodging my questions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 5 hours ago, Renegade X said: I live in Ontario just like you. Tax is way higher, do you not think so? Why do you keep dodging my questions? I believe Ontario's tax rate is maybe second lowest in the country Gasoline is a steady buck - seems fair unfortunately if you are in the top 1% you are getting hit from Provincial and federal taxes. The almost doubling hydro rates last January has been noticed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 21 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: Harper's magic balanced budget just 6 months before the election was great timing, from 10 billion just months prior to balance more lies from fail. Shocker! His second last budget had a $5B deficit before he handed the libs a balanced budget but let's look at big picture shall we? In the aftermath of the worst recession since the great depression he reduced a $56B deficit to zero in 5 years. Meanwhile Trudeau inherited a stable economy, never had a recession and added $90B in debt in 5 years before covid. Impressive! Economic incompetence the likes of which has never before been seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, frenchy said: more lies from fail. Shocker! His second last budget had a $5B deficit before he handed the libs a balanced budget but let's look at big picture shall we? In the aftermath of the worst recession since the great depression he reduced a $56B deficit to zero in 5 years. Meanwhile Trudeau inherited a stable economy, never had a recession and added $90B in debt in 5 years before covid. Impressive! Economic incompetence the likes of which has never before been seen. 140 dollar a barrel or OIL compared to 30 dollars - tell me how this would have worked for Harper todays prices 7.9% unemployment brought down to 50 year low just above 5% in 2 years - While Alberta continues with low teens numbers - those are good numbers. If we counted our unemployed numbers like the USA does our would be 3.8% sorry the inheritance isn't that great compared to what he inherited - we have outpace USA on almost every account employment stock market increase total employment but you see something different, you never post numbers or facts you just rant like a little girl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 you don't understand the numbers and post factually incorrect information constantly, as above. I can't waste my time correcting you only to have you drool, stare at the screen, not understand it then post the exact same bullshit an hour later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, frenchy said: you don't understand the numbers and post factually incorrect information constantly, as above. I can't waste my time correcting you only to have you drool, stare at the screen, not understand it then post the exact same bullshit an hour later. I figured, you rant deficit with no recession and that is your argument no worries Frechy the records are factual not fiction even if you deny all of them how about Record business profits the most in history are you denying 7.9% unemployment? or just denying everything Edited September 10, 2020 by 1trailmaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 unemployment will continue to decrease based on nothing more than population growth combined with boomers leaving the workforce in record numbers over the last 3 years. Sorry you are too dumb to understand the context of any numbers that lie so obviously beneath what is printed on the screen of the simple search you just googled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade X Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 16 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: I believe Ontario's tax rate is maybe second lowest in the country Gasoline is a steady buck - seems fair unfortunately if you are in the top 1% you are getting hit from Provincial and federal taxes. The almost doubling hydro rates last January has been noticed 1 hour ago, 1trailmaker said: 140 dollar a barrel or OIL compared to 30 dollars - tell me how this would have worked for Harper todays prices 7.9% unemployment brought down to 50 year low just above 5% in 2 years - While Alberta continues with low teens numbers - those are good numbers. If we counted our unemployed numbers like the USA does our would be 3.8% sorry the inheritance isn't that great compared to what he inherited - we have outpace USA on almost every account employment stock market increase total employment but you see something different, you never post numbers or facts you just rant like a little girl These two comments here show me there really is no point talking to you about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, frenchy said: unemployment will continue to decrease based on nothing more than population growth combined with boomers leaving the workforce in record numbers over the last 3 years. Sorry you are too dumb to understand the context of any numbers that lie so obviously beneath what is printed on the screen of the simple search you just googled. most people employed EVER sorry you are wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Renegade X said: These two comments here show me there really is no point talking to you about this. big difference in OIL this is the reason Alberta OIL is over for now, there is no profit with low barrel prices .. Our Government doesn't set OIL prices not sure how you can look at it any other way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 for Frenchy the denier https://www.statista.com/statistics/464156/number-of-full-time-workers-in-canada/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 49 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: most people employed EVER sorry you are wrong you are dumb as fuck. More boomers retiring every year = low unemployment as they leave the workforce and many are not replaced. DUUUHHHH!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, 1trailmaker said: I figured, you rant deficit with no recession and that is your argument no worries Frechy the records are factual not fiction even if you deny all of them how about Record business profits the most in history are you denying 7.9% unemployment? or just denying everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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