Should Wynne Step Down

[steve6]

Wynne should and will step a side before the next election but with the clowns as opposition will probably still win the next election

 

 http://m.torontosun.com/2016/11/29/pc-leader-patrick-brown-needs-to-get-office-under-control

 

[dirtybeacher]

[Frostynuts]

Subject: : Hydro Payroll!!!!

                                                         PARDEN ME WHILE I THROW UP!!!!!!:

 

This can't be right.  See the highlighted names, titles and salaries –

 

What does an Authorization Training Supervisor do – and what do they need 11 of them at an average wage of $275K

 

What does a First Line Mechanical / Control person do and why are there 7 of them – average salary $255K

 

What does a Control Room Shift Supervisor  do and why are the 15 of them – average salary of $305K – one guy makes  $505K per year.

 

What does a Shift Manager  do and why are there 14 of them with an average salary of $284K

 

Now I know they have more than one installation in Ontario- but wow – surely there is HR staffing software and the like.

 

I now they run 24/7 365 – but really why in god's name do these people make so much money?

 

Unbelievable........

Subject: Fwd: Hydro Payroll!!!!

 

 

 

 

Gee I guess I picked the wrong vocation when I entered the work force. $257,000 salary for a shift worker at Hydro not bad . Hydro rates going up again, the Ontario Energy Board says. OEB says milder winter is to blame for rate hikes, which will add about $3 to average monthly bill. Only in Ontario would customers be penalized for reduced electricity consumption. We do the things we are supposed to do: use smart meters, turn down the temperature, use the dryer dishwasher on off hours, turn off lights and yet we still get screwed."As a result of lower usage, Regulated Price Plan (RPP) prices did not recover the full cost of serving RPP customers. One of the main reasons prices have increased this last May is to recover this shortfall." With the salaries shown below, it would appear the main function of the electricity system, supposedly supplying electricity to us, is just an incidental activity. This is where the $3.00 per month is going:- OPG - THOMAS MITCHELL $1,720,774 President & Chief Executive Officer OPG - WAYNE ROBBINS $920,714 Chief Nuclear Officer OPG - JOHN MURPHY $910,870 Executive Vice President, Strategic Initiatives Hydro One - CARMINE MARCELLO $728,571 President & Chief Executive Officer OPG - DONN W. HANBIDGE $670,930 Senior Vice President & Chief Financial Officer OPG - FRANK CHIAROTTO $616,741 Senior Advisor, Joint Ventures OPG - PIERRE F. TREMBLAY $596,510 President, Canadian Nuclear Partners Hydro One - MYLES D'ARCEY $566,834 Senior Vice President, Customer Operations Hydro One - SANDY STRUTHERS $566,364 Chief Administrative Officer Chief Financial Officer Hydro One - PETER GREGG $565,272 Chief Operating Officer OPG - PAUL PASQUET $534,538 Senior Vice President OPG - WILLIAM ELLIOTT $523,400 Senior Vice President, Nuclear Engineering & Chief Nuclear  Engineer OPG - BRUCE BOLAND $519,636 Senior Vice President, Commercial Operations & Environment OPG - GLENN JAGER $513,163 Chief Nuclear Officer OEB - ROSEMARIE LECLAIR $509,223 Chair & Chief Executive Officer OPG - MICHAEL GRIFFITHS $504,992 Control Room Shift Supervisor OPG - TONY KOKUS $497,993 Senior Thermal Station Engineer/Officer OPG - BARBARA KEENAN $474,236 Senior Vice President, People, Culture & Chief Ethics OPG - CHRISTOPHER GINTHER $454,386 Senior Vice President, Law & General Counsel OPG - BRIAN DUNCAN $452,164 Senior Vice President, Darlington Hydro One - WAYNE SMITH $449,489 Senior Vice President, Planning & Operating OPG - DIETMAR E. REINER $439,547 Senior Vice President, Nuclear Refurbishment OPG - MICHAEL ALLEN $428,682 Deputy Site Vice President Hydro One OPG - MICHAEL WINTERS $424,990 Senior Vice President, Engineering & Technology OPG - SCOTT MARTIN $416,665 Senior Vice President, Business & Administration Services OPG - SEAN GRANVILLE $410,530 Senior Vice President OPG - ROBIN HEARD $407,866 Vice President Finance, Chief Controller & Chief Accounting Officer OPG - BRYCE PHILLIPS $395,687 Senior Vice President,  Pickering  Hydro One - ROBERT CULTRARO $382,610 Senior Vice President, Pensions OPG - MICHAEL PECKHAM $378,586 $Vice President, Projects & Modifications OPG - STEVE WOODS $376,948 $Vice President, Fleet Operations & Maintenance OPG - MIKE MARTELLI $375,830 Senior Vice President, Hydro Thermal Operations OPG - ALBERT SWEETNAM $370,089 Executive Vice President, Nuclear Projects Hydro One - ALI SULEMAN $359,294 Vice President & Treasurer, Treasury & Riske OPG - FRED DERMARKAR $358,298 Vice President, Engineering Strategy OPG - STEPHUN CLIVER $352,739 Chief Supply Officer OPG - DANNY BHAGWANDIN 346,125 Control Room Shift Supervisor OPG - WILLIAM HYSON $343,461 Control Room Shift Supervisor OPG - RENZO MARCUZZI $341,818 Vice President, Electricity Sales & Trading Hydro One - JOHN MACNAMARA $335,655 Vice President, Health Safety & Environment Hydro One - LEN MCMILLAN $330,869 Vice President, Operations & Maintenance Hydro One - NAIRN MCQUEEN $330,259 Senior Vice President, Engineering & Construction Services OEB - D. ALECK DADSON $328,766 Chief Operating Officer OPG - DONALD J. POWER $328,468 Vice President, Investment Planning OPG - FRANCESCO GUGLIELMI $328,071 Director, Operations & Maintenance OPG - CARLO CROZZOLI $323,431 Senior Vice President, Corporate Business Development             & Chief Risk Officer OPG - EDWARD SKREPNEK $322,426 Control Room Shift Supervisor OPG - JONG DEA KIM $322,382 Chief Information Officer Hydro One - SUSAN FRANK $321,739 Vice President, Regulatory OPG - HENRY EVANS $320,417 Authorized Nuclear Operator OPG - CRAIG WARDROP $318,575 Director OPG - PIERRE THERRIEN $316,453 Authorized Nuclear Operator OPG - KEN WILKINS $316,154 Authorization Training Supervisor Hydro One - JOSEPH AGOSTINO $312,741 General Counsel OPG - JOE SIRACUSA $310,593 Vice President, Engineering Technical Services OPG - ALAN SHIEVER $309,863 Vice President, Learning & Development Hydro One - MIKE SHEEHAN $309,681 Vice President, Facilities & Real Estate Hydro One - KAREN NEWMAN $309,498 Vice President, Corporate Controller OPG - CHRIS M. YOUNG $308,883 Vice President, Hydro Thermal Project Execution Hydro One - RICK STEVENS $307,174 Vice President, Customer Service Hydro One - JUDY MCKELLAR $306,634 Vice President, People And Culture OPG - CATRIONA KING $306,400 $Vice President, Corporate Secretary & Executive Operations OPG - STEPHEN RAMJIST $305,824 Director, Operations & Maintenance OPG - IVAN ARSENAULT $305,817 Authorization Training Supervisor OPG - ANDREW P. BARRETT $305,599 Vice President, Regulator Affairs OPG - ALBERTO SIMOES $304,199 Contract - Senior Advisor OPG - COLVIN RIVIERE $302,331 Control Room Shift Supervisor OPG - MIKE SAVAGE $301,663 Control Room Shift Supervisor OPG - PAUL J. BURKE $300,454 Vice President, Integrated Revenue Planning OPG - RON HOSEIN $300,334 Shift Manager OPG - CHRISTIAN RUNKOWSKI $299,926 Authorized Nuclear Operator OPG - PETER KING $299,892 Manager, Operations Production OPG - PAUL SPEKKENS $299,197 Vice President, Science & Technology OPG - KEN GILBERT $298,642 Director, Operations & Maintenance OPG - MARTIN LOUGHEED $298,380 Shift Manager Hydro One - MIKE PENSTONE $298,010 Vice President, Network Development & Regional Planning OPG - ROSS MCCORD $297,322 Manager, Operations Production OPG - LOU POLLIERI $296,396 Vice President, Assurance & Chief Audit Executive OPG - ANDY MCLACHLIN $294,831 Authorized Nuclear Operator OPG - JASON FITZSIMMONS $293,653 Vice President, Health, Safety, Employee & Labour Relations Hydro One - JOHN FRASER $293,410 Senior Vice President, Internal Audit Hydro One - LAURA COOKE $292,129 Vice President, Corporate Relations OPG - RICHARD GEOFROY 292,105 Control Room Shift Supervisor OPG - CHRIS HAWLEY 291,352 Authorization Training Supervisor OPG - BARRY BOUCKLEY 289,878 Shift Manager OPG - MARK ARNONE 289,618 Vice President, Refurbishment Execution OPG - GÃRALD PARENT 289,046 Shift Manager OPG - ROSS HENRY 288,228 Control Room Shift Supervisor Hydro One - PAUL MARCHANT 288,168 President & Chief Executive Officer, Hydro One Telecom OPG - KERRY TOMPSON 288,022 Vice President, Talent Management / Business Change OPG - CHRIS SCOTT-DIXON 287,974 Shift Manager OPG - RICHARD WAYTOWICH 287,701 Shift Manager OPG - DAVID MACDIARMID 287,288 Shift Manager OPG - CAMERON SPENCE 286,234 Assistant Operations Manager OPG - CHRISTOPHER QUIRT 286,164 Shift Manager OPG - THOMAS SHAVER 285,943 Authorized Nuclear Operator  OPG - JOSEPHINA ERZETIC 285,799 Vice President, Corporate Business Development OPG - ANDY MOECK 285,551 Shift Manager OPG- PAUL SEGUIN 285,279 Assistant Operations Manager OPG - GORDON KIES 284,963 Authorization Training Supervisor OPG - GLENN TEMPLE 284,283 Vice President, Real Estate & Services OPG - MARLENE RAMPHAL 284,267 Manager, Operations Production OPG - BILL ROBINSON 283,567 Senior Vice President, Nuclear Projects OPG - WALTER FLORIS 283,281 Authorized Nuclear Operator OPG - BRIAN SPEER 282,545 Shift Manager OPG - LOUIE DESANTIS 282,063 Authorization Training Supervisor OPG - ROBERT POWELL 281,693 Director, Work Management OPG - ROBERT JACKOWSKI 281,434 Assistant Operations Manager OPG - JOHN NOAKES 280,510 Shift Manager OPG - VAL BEVACQUA 280,312 Senior Manager, Fuel Handling OPG - ZARIR KHANSAHEB 280,234 Manager, Operations Programs OPG - ROGER SCHRYER 280,019 Authorization Training Supervisor OPG - JOHN MAUTI 278,305 Vice President, Business Planning & Reporting OPG - CARA L. CLAIRMAN 277,849 Vice President OPG - KENNETH HEPBURN 277,499 Control Room Shift Supervisor OPG - JEFFREY EATOCK 277,409 Shift Manager OPG - LORNE SHANTZ 277,183 Control Room Shift Supervisor OPG - SEAN LEACH 276,880 Authorization Training Supervisor OPG - STEVE GREGORIS 276,668 Manager, Operations Production Hydro One - COLIN PENNY 276,383 Chief Information Officer OPG - JOHN MCDONALD 276,323 Shift Manager OPG - STEPHANIE SMITH 275,397 Assistant Operations Manager OPG - LES CARTER 275,390 Manager, Performance Engineering OPG - MARK KNUTSON 274,499 Director OEB - CYNTHIA CHAPLIN 274,425 Vice Chair OPG - MATT PILIARIK 274,083 Authorized Nuclear Operator OPG - ADNAN KHAN 272,905 Control Room Shift Supervisor OPG - JAMES DINGLE 272,425 Control Room Shift Supervisor OPG - KEVIN BAIRD 271,504 First Line Manager, Inspection & Maintenance OPG - DONALD SENIOR 270,077 Department Manager, Outage OPG - OMAIR NAEEM 269,881 Section Manager, Licensing OPG - ANDREW OWEN 269,628 Control Room Shift Supervisor OPG - MANISHKUMAR SHAH 268,845 Electrical & Control Technician First Line Manager Assistant OPG - DAVID COLLINS 268,665 Authorized Nuclear Operator OPG - RON C. BROWN 267,518 Authorized Nuclear Operator OPG - ALLAN REID 267,324 Plant Manager, Hydro OPG - GARY KUNTZ 267,048 Authorization Training Supervisor OPG - STEPHANIE POWERS 267,044 Vice President, Inspection & Maintenance Services OPG - LAURIE SWAMI 266,406 Vice President, Nuclear Services OPG - CRAIG HALKET 266,299 Vice President, Total Rewards OPG - BILL OWENS 265,720 Director, Work Management OPG - JOE SICOLI 264,497 Production Supervisor - Shift Engineer OPG - STEVE BAGSHAW 263,793 Authorized Nuclear Operator OPG - FRASER GRANT 263,753 Senior Manager, Fuel Handling OPG - MARTIN V. TULETT 262,189 Deputy Site Vice President OPG - MARGARET TIMBERG 261,829 Assistant General Counsel OPG - ALLAN GRACE 261,740 Control Room Shift Supervisor Hydro One - FRANK D'ANDREA 261,574 Director, Outsourcing Services OPG - RANDOLPH GOBIN 260,659 First Line Manager, Control/Mechanical OPG - STEPHEN MILLS 260,491 Vice President, Business & Services OPG - KEITH HOWARD 260,153 Director, Design Engineering OPG - CHRISTOPHER DROST 260,117 Control Room Shift Supervisor OPG - RUSSELL THOMPSON 259,669 Authorization Training Supervisor OPG - DAVE OWENS 258,756 First Line Manager, Control/Mechanical OPG - MOHAMED KARIM 258,734 First Line Manager, Control/Mechanical OPG - RICHARD JESSOP 258,477 Director OPG - PETER TARREN 258,348 Manager, Engineering Program Integration OPG - COLLEEN SIDFORD 258,171 Vice President, Chief Investment Officer OPG - RALPH LAURICH 257,739 Shift Manager OPG - RICHIE JAMES 257,416 Unit 0 - Training Supervisor OPG - ERIC MCCARTHY 257,375 Vice President, Commercial Contracts OPG - BRADLEY EADIE 257,253 First Line Manager, Inspection & Maintenance Hydro One - GARY SCHNEIDER 256,260 Director, Executive Office OPG - MARIO MAZZA 255,779 Vice President, Strategy & Business Support OPG - HOOSHANG ZADEH 255,676 Director, Market Operations OPG - JOHN MATTHEWS 255,608 First Line Manager, Control/Mechanical OEB - MARY ANNE ALDRED 255,450 General Counsel, Legal Services & Board Secretary OPG - ROBERT GERRARD 254,856 Director, Corporate Strategy & Planning OPG - KEN LACIVITA 254,535 Director, Trading & Origination OPG - TERRY C. DORAN 254,453 Vice President, Nuclear Waste Management OPG - NICOLLE BUTCHER 254,408 Vice President, Corporate Strategy & Planning OPG - JEFFREY STEWART 253,709 Authorized Nuclear Operator OPG - JIMKEELING 253,428 Control Room Shift Supervisor OPG - KURT POPPE 253,411 Authorized Nuclear Operator OPG - MIKE POULIN 253,100 First Line Manager, Control/Mechanical OPG - CHARANJIT SINGH 252,961 Director, Accounting OPG - SCOTT BULL 252,523 Authorization Training Supervisor OPG - RICHARD L. WONG 251,515 Assistant Treasurer OPG- RON BAMBRICK 251,466 Authorization Training Supervisor OPG - GLEN BANNON 251,128 First Line Manager, Control/Mechanical OPG - NEIL DOUGLAS 251,046 Authorization Training Supervisor OPG - RUSSELL PETTIFER 250,650 First Line Manager, Control/Mechanical Salaries Related to Ontario 's Hydro Costs between the Ontario Energy Board (OEB), Hydro One and the Ontario Power Generation (OPG) (all three Public Sector Agencies) there are 11,879 employees who make more than $100,000/Year! These top earners draw combined annual earnings of over 1.6 billion dollars. There are 626 making more than $200,000/Year. According to the Globe and Mail, a whopping 77.5% of Ontario Power Generation employees make over $100,000/Year. Over 70% of Hydro One employees and over 60% of Ontario Energy Board employees make over 100K. Here we only show the top 182 who are in the Million Dollar Country Club. Have you ever seen such ridiculous bloated job titles? And they want the customers to pay more!?

 

[Frostynuts]

Hey Irv, are you on this list ? LOL

[02sled]

I love the ones highlighted on last nights news. The contractor that installed a bridge upside down and was paid a bonus and awarded contracts after that. Or the roads that were supposed to last 15 years, crumbled in 2 to 3 years due to using asphalt different than specified and then rather than hold the contractor responsible.... pay the same contractor that screwed us the first time $M's more to fix their screw up.

Good use of tax $'s but hey what does government care. The pot of money is bottomless. I wonder if the Minister of Transportation is going to tell the Auditor General that roads are too complex for her to understand.

It's a pretty thick document of government screw ups and fiscal stupidity for just one year isn't it?

[1trailmaker]

1 hour ago, 02sled said:

I love the ones highlighted on last nights news. The contractor that installed a bridge upside down and was paid a bonus and awarded contracts after that. Or the roads that were supposed to last 15 years, crumbled in 2 to 3 years due to using asphalt different than specified and then rather than hold the contractor responsible.... pay the same contractor that screwed us the first time $M's more to fix their screw up.

Good use of tax $'s but hey what does government care. The pot of money is bottomless. I wonder if the Minister of Transportation is going to tell the Auditor General that roads are too complex for her to understand.

It's a pretty thick document of government screw ups and fiscal stupidity for just one year isn't it?

Atleast you are getting the idea of Private Government Contractors for life, you know the ones you defend and argue for.   There are only a few contractors that get all jobs, there is not fair bedding process don't kid yourself. 

this has been happening ever since we start the cheer for Private work, we get what we ask for everytime

[ArcticCrusher]

1 hour ago, 02sled said:

I love the ones highlighted on last nights news. The contractor that installed a bridge upside down and was paid a bonus and awarded contracts after that. Or the roads that were supposed to last 15 years, crumbled in 2 to 3 years due to using asphalt different than specified and then rather than hold the contractor responsible.... pay the same contractor that screwed us the first time $M's more to fix their screw up.

Good use of tax $'s but hey what does government care. The pot of money is bottomless. I wonder if the Minister of Transportation is going to tell the Auditor General that roads are too complex for her to understand.

It's a pretty thick document of government screw ups and fiscal stupidity for just one year isn't it?

I don't know why we are not adapting to rubberized asphalt for road re-surfacing.  I guess the asphalt lobby is still good and strong.  

[ArcticCrusher]

11 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

Atleast you are getting the idea of Private Government Contractors for life, you know the ones you defend and argue for.   There are only a few contractors that get all jobs, there is not fair bedding process don't kid yourself. 

this has been happening ever since we start the cheer for Private work, we get what we ask for everytime

There would be no need if the public workers ever got their act together.

At least we have the means to dump the private contractors, jobs for life public sector, no thanks.

[02sled]

15 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

Atleast you are getting the idea of Private Government Contractors for life, you know the ones you defend and argue for.   There are only a few contractors that get all jobs, there is not fair bedding process don't kid yourself. 

this has been happening ever since we start the cheer for Private work, we get what we ask for everytime

STILL WRONG AGAIN FAIL. I never have and never will support private government contractors FOR LIFE. What I DO SUPPORT is private contractors doing the job they were hired to do and being held accountable. THAT IS THE KEY. The dumb ass incompetent government employees / administrators are the ones that are stupid enough to pay the contractor a bonus for doing piss poor work, pay them even more money to fix their screw ups and then rehire them for another contract. Then repeat the same stupidity.

HOLD THE CONTRACTOR ACCOUNTABLE.

We were building our data centre in Mississauga. The contractor brought in a crane to lift a couple of $600K cooling units into place. They didn't pay attention and didn't use the lift points and rings installed by the manufacturer. They damaged the units. The repairs were in the ballpark of just under $200K. We didn't pay for the repairs. That was the contractors problem to deal with.  

You don't reward people for doing a lousy job.

JOBS FOR LIFE IS GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES ONLY. All the contracts I have ever been involved with had non performance clauses and penalties applied to the contractors if they didn't do their job right.

Edited December 1, 2016 by 02sled

[ArcticCrusher]

4 minutes ago, 02sled said:

STILL WRONG AGAIN FAIL. I never have and never will support private government contractors FOR LIFE. What I DO SUPPORT is private contractors doing the job they were hired to do and being held accountable. THAT IS THE KEY. The dumb ass incompetent government employees / administrators are the ones that are stupid enough to pay the contractor a bonus for doing piss poor work, pay them even more money to fix their screw ups and then rehire them for another contract. Then repeat the same stupidity.

HOLD THE CONTRACTOR ACCOUNTABLE.

We were building our data centre in Mississauga. The contractor brought in a crane to lift a couple of $600K cooling units into place. They didn't pay attention and didn't use the lift points and rings installed by the manufacturer. They damaged the units. The repairs were in the ballpark of just under $200K. We didn't pay for the repairs. That was the contractors problem to deal with.  

You don't reward people for doing a lousy job.

JOBS FOR LIFE IS GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES ONLY. All the contracts I have ever been involved with had non performance clauses and penalties applied to the contractors if they didn't do their job right.

They didn't likely pay for it either, it falls under general liability and insurance will cover it.

 

 

[1trailmaker]

10 minutes ago, 02sled said:

STILL WRONG AGAIN FAIL. I never have and never will support private government contractors FOR LIFE. What I DO SUPPORT is private contractors doing the job they were hired to do and being held accountable. THAT IS THE KEY. The dumb ass incompetent government employees / administrators are the ones that are stupid enough to pay the contractor a bonus for doing piss poor work, pay them even more money to fix their screw ups and then rehire them for another contract. Then repeat the same stupidity.

HOLD THE CONTRACTOR ACCOUNTABLE.

We were building our data centre in Mississauga. The contractor brought in a crane to lift a couple of $600K cooling units into place. They didn't pay attention and didn't use the lift points and rings installed by the manufacturer. They damaged the units. The repairs were in the ballpark of just under $200K. We didn't pay for the repairs. That was the contractors problem to deal with.  

You don't reward people for doing a lousy job.

JOBS FOR LIFE IS GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES ONLY. All the contracts I have ever been involved with had non performance clauses and penalties applied to the contractors if they didn't do their job right.

There is only a small handful of Contractors that can do the job of that size, that is why they keep hiring them - get it, this isn't some small office building network cooler

Now these cheating companies are being give a pass from the government and the public (haters) - nothing will happen, you super conservatives will not be demanding them to be banned from contracts.  All we will here is Wynne blah blah (yes complete fuck up) -  We don't even hear the name of these companies it seems, just "the contractor"

Fucking cheats for Profit

Edited December 1, 2016 by 1trailmaker

[02sled]

10 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

They didn't likely pay for it either, it falls under general liability and insurance will cover it.

 

 

The bottom line is We didn't pay for the screw up and similarly the government shouldn't pay the contractor to fix what the contractor screwed up. Not to mention give them a damn bonus for screwing up.

[02sled]

8 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

There is only a small handful of Contractors that can do the job of that size, that is why they keep hiring them - get it, this isn't some small office building network cooler

Now these cheating companies are being give a pass from the government and the public (haters) - nothing will happen, you super conservatives will not be demanding them to be banned from contracts.  All we will here is Wynne blah blah (yes complete fuck up) -  We don't even hear the name of these companies it seems, just "the contractor"

Fucking cheats for Profit

Hit them with penalties and hold them liable. Have the penalties in the contract if it costs them enough money they will correct the behaviour.

By the way... not a small office building network cooler Fail. Not unless you call $80M construction cost small. You have know idea what a data centre comprises or the costs involved.

[ArcticCrusher]

3 minutes ago, 02sled said:

The bottom line is We didn't pay for the screw up and similarly the government shouldn't pay the contractor to fix what the contractor screwed up. Not to mention give them a damn bonus for screwing up.

I had a 6000gal process hot water fail during during commissioning, it imploded like a crushed can due to inadequate/incorrect venting.  This happens much more than they like to admit, but the manus will not put venting on these since they do not want to take responsibility.  The general had to build a bypass system until insurance got it replaced and then re-installed.  The crane guys to pull this 40' tank did an amazing job.  Sometimes shit just happens, but the end user did not fork over a dime to fix it.

[02sled]

12 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

I had a 6000gal process hot water fail during during commissioning, it imploded like a crushed can due to inadequate/incorrect venting.  This happens much more than they like to admit, but the manus will not put venting on these since they do not want to take responsibility.  The general had to build a bypass system until insurance got it replaced and then re-installed.  The crane guys to pull this 40' tank did an amazing job.  Sometimes shit just happens, but the end user did not fork over a dime to fix it.

Exactly... but when it comes to government the end user just keeps paying and paying because the government administrators that pay the bills seem to take the easy way out rather than sit down at the table and demand... you screwed up now fix it and we aren't paying for it. Just because they have in the past doesn't mean it has to continue and shouldn't continue. It's our tax money they are throwing away.

[1trailmaker]

you would think it would be that easy

Politicians do one thing and that is make sure they are voted in again - Patrick Brown taking a huge stance against his party supporting gays and sex ed, Why get votes.

The new 19 year old will be an interesting fella, talk about zero experience

[Poncho]

21 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

you would think it would be that easy

Politicians do one thing and that is make sure they are voted in again - Patrick Brown taking a huge stance against his party supporting gays and sex ed, Why get votes.

The new 19 year old will be an interesting fella, talk about zero experience

Just like Truetard...zero experience....so in the Tard-world he should do well.

[ArcticCrusher]

9 minutes ago, Poncho said:

Just like Truetard...zero experience....so in the Tard-world he should do well.

Truetard was a pothead at his age, so he does have a bit of an advantage.

[revrnd]

Lots of coverage of this on CTV's chain of stations. I hope people are getting the message.

http://www.canadianmanufacturing.com/manufacturing/torontos-leland-industries-cites-high-energy-cost-move-u-s-180941/

The governor of Illinois should send a thank you note to Seabiscuit. For states that are close to Ontario, she's is their best economic development program.

[ArcticCrusher]

3 hours ago, revrnd said:

Lots of coverage of this on CTV's chain of stations. I hope people are getting the message.

http://www.canadianmanufacturing.com/manufacturing/torontos-leland-industries-cites-high-energy-cost-move-u-s-180941/

The governor of Illinois should send a thank you note to Seabiscuit. For states that are close to Ontario, she's is their best economic development program.

Pretty sad when you can't justify staying in Ontario with a 75 cent dollar and would rather pay Obamacare.  Thanks Wynnebag. 

[02sled]

Wynnebag is a waste of space. She has announced that she recognized that the Drive Clean Inspection Program was seen as a tax on people and therefore the province will start paying for the mandatory program. That means more government administrative jobs to process the payments etc. and the people will no longer be paying their mechanic for the test. OH CRAP! Wait a minute... the money's just coming out of a different tax payer pocket. Instead of going straight to the mechanic it goes into the general tax coffers and will actually cost us more thanks to the extra government jobs.

One of the most recent. Wynnebag says they do everything they can to avoid using bottled water in the premiers office and she doesn't understand why people use so much bottled water. It's time for the province to take measures to correct that behaviour.

"I really think we need to look at the culture around bottled water. Why are we all drinking water out of bottles when most of us don't need to?"

There are situations where bottled water is needed because of old pipes or other problems, said Wynne.

"But do all of us need to be using bottled water?" she asked. "I think we need to have a bigger look at the whole industry, and our role in regulating it."

Stronger regulations of the bottled water industry and more public education about the safety of tap water could help the province achieve its goals to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and the impacts of climate change,

"Climate change, droughts, carbon emissions are all tied to this very wasteful industry,"

Edited December 21, 2016 by 02sled

[irv]

On 12/1/2016 at 8:43 AM, Frostynuts said:

Hey Irv, are you on this list ? LOL

LOL, nope, but maybe this year?

One thing, and I know you guys don't want to hear it, but some of those guys/gals who make that type of money worked a shit load of overtime.

OPG hasn't hired full time people in years, all in an effort to help keep costs down so there is never a shortage of overtime for those that want/need it. So, you see, it's a double edged sword, we are damned if we do and damned if we don't. People want costs kept down but yet are the first to complain when someone makes over a 100 g's a year without even thinking about all the overtime they've worked. 

Some of those jobs listed pay very well, and rightfully so, as you need talented/skilled/smart people running these Nuke plants, not a bunch of dummies who are paid peanuts who would have no idea what to do if there were ever an incident. A control room sno has a ton a responsibility and has the power/knowledge to oversee crisis, can shut down a unit if need be, etc, etc. He is even more trained/knowledgeable than some of our panel operators. Personally, I don't know how these guys do it.

Running a Nuke Plant is nothing like it is in the real world but yet there are others out there who make similar/same/more who have far less responsibility.

As an aside, OPG, Hydro One, OEB, Auditor General, etc, etc, all warned McGuinty, Wynne and the rest of the Liberal Gov't that forging ahead with there Green Energy plan would lead to the crisis we are in now, but of course, their arrogance, greater than though attitudes didn't listen and we are in this mess now.

I am just thankful, being an OPG employee, that I get my Hydro for free! 

 

 

[ArcticCrusher]

2 hours ago, irv said:

LOL, nope, but maybe this year?

One thing, and I know you guys don't want to hear it, but some of those guys/gals who make that type of money worked a shit load of overtime.

OPG hasn't hired full time people in years, all in an effort to help keep costs down so there is never a shortage of overtime for those that want/need it. So, you see, it's a double edged sword, we are damned if we do and damned if we don't. People want costs kept down but yet are the first to complain when someone makes over a 100 g's a year without even thinking about all the overtime they've worked. 

Some of those jobs listed pay very well, and rightfully so, as you need talented/skilled/smart people running these Nuke plants, not a bunch of dummies who are paid peanuts who would have no idea what to do if there were ever an incident. A control room sno has a ton a responsibility and has the power/knowledge to oversee crisis, can shut down a unit if need be, etc, etc. He is even more trained/knowledgeable than some of our panel operators. Personally, I don't know how these guys do it.

Running a Nuke Plant is nothing like it is in the real world but yet there are others out there who make similar/same/more who have far less responsibility.

As an aside, OPG, Hydro One, OEB, Auditor General, etc, etc, all warned McGuinty, Wynne and the rest of the Liberal Gov't that forging ahead with there Green Energy plan would lead to the crisis we are in now, but of course, their arrogance, greater than though attitudes didn't listen and we are in this mess now.

I am just thankful, being an OPG employee, that I get my Hydro for free! 

 

 

If Homer can do it. . ... 

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1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said:

If Homer can do it. . ... 

Good one