Mileage Psycho Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Another breathless hoax by our beloved president. Quote ‘Obamagate’ suffers another significant, predictable blow A week ago, Republican senators released a list of Obama administration officials who had requested the “unmasking” of Michael Flynn’s name in intelligence reports. And it wasn’t long before President Trump’s allies picked up the ball and ran with it. Almost immediately, many of them began tying the unmaskings to the leaks of details of Flynn’s conversations with the Russian ambassador — a situation that culminated in Flynn pleading guilty to lying to the FBI about the calls. “One crime is certain to have been committed,” wrote conservative journalist John Solomon, “an unmasked conversation between Flynn and Russia’s ambassador to Washington was leaked to at least two media outlets.” Fox News host Laura Ingraham added that “the practice itself — unmasking — isn’t illegal, but passing the info around for illicit purposes, leaking it to the press — oh, yes, that is illegal. And we know that occurred here.” In a letter this week, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) asked acting director of national intelligence Richard Grenell “why the list released on May 13th did not contain a record showing who unmasked General Flynn’s identity for his phone call with Ambassador Kislyak.” Turns out there’s a very good reason the list didn’t show who unmasked Flynn’s name in that call: Because it was never masked in the first place. As The Post’s Ellen Nakashima reported Wednesday, it was the FBI, not the National Security Agency, that wiretapped Ambassador Sergey Kislyak’s calls — a common and legal practice. And Flynn’s name was never redacted in its report: “When the FBI circulated [the report], they included Flynn’s name from the beginning” because it was essential to understanding its significance, said a former senior U.S. official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive intelligence. “There were therefore no requests for the unmasking of that information.” The upshot here is that the unmaskings have not actually been connected to the Flynn-Kislyak calls or to the leaking of information about them to the press. The most notable leak was to Washington Post columnist David Ignatius. On Jan. 12, 2017, Ignatius broke the news of Flynn’s talks with Kislyak and raised the prospect that they had discussed the Obama administration’s recently imposed sanctions -- in potential violation of an unenforced federal law called the Logan Act. The Post eventually reported Flynn and Kislyak had in fact discussed sanctions, but Flynn lied about this to the FBI and pleaded guilty to doing so. (The Justice Department now seeks to drop this prosecution.) In other words, breathless theories about how the unmaskings prove the Obama White House was involved in the leaks have crumbled — at least based upon what we know now. To be clear, not everyone who has objected to the unmaskings has tied them to the Kislyak calls like this. More discerning experts and pundits have acknowledged that the list provided to senators by Grenell included no such evidence — and even acknowledged the likelihood that Flynn’s identity was never masked in the first place. But that didn’t stop the likes of Graham from acting as though it had been. Nor did it stop Trump allies such as the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, Rep. Devin Nunes (Calif.), from going on Fox News and lumping it all together. “They were unmasking anyone and everyone so that they could leak information to a press that was willing to take that illegal information to build a fake, phony narrative to set up numerous people on the Trump team — not just General Flynn,” Nunes said a week ago. Others have suggestively looked at the dates of the unmaskings in an attempt to tie them to Flynn-Kislyak calls or the leak to Ignatius. “Now, who do you think made the unmasking requests that day?” Ingraham said last week, referring to the date Flynn and Kislyak made contact. “None other than former director of national intelligence James Clapper.” The Wall Street Journal editorial board applied this speculative theory to Biden last week. “Mr. Biden’s unmasking request was made on Jan. 12, 2017 — the day The Washington Post reported on the Flynn-Russia conversation,” it wrote. “Mr. Biden has some explaining to do.” Rep. Jody Hice (R-Ga.) echoed this idea: Biden seems to have less explaining to do now that we know that Flynn’s name was never masked in the first place. The revelation comes after, earlier in the week, Attorney General William P. Barr dismissed the idea of a criminal investigation of former president Barack Obama or Biden. There is much we still don’t know here. But what has been evident from the beginning is that this alleged scandal — “Obamagate,” as Trump has called it — has been built on a whole lot of baseless suggestion and inference. Proponents are exploiting the secretive but entirely common process of unmasking (which is alien to 99.9 percent of Americans) to construct an elaborate but extremely speculative conspiracy theory. In doing so, they have been aided by the selective release of information by Grenell and GOP senators, which provided just enough for them to inject a whiff of plausibility that this involved the Obama White House or even Biden — but never truly substantiated that allegation in the first place. It’s always important to be circumspect with this kind of information, acknowledging there is plenty we don’t yet know that has yet to be revealed. But it’s also important not to jump to flimsy conclusions by going beyond the evidence — and rather blatantly so. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/05/21/obamagate-suffers-another-significant-blow/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: Another breathless hoax by our beloved president. I want to ask you an honest question. Why would you support this behavior from government No matter who did it? Had the Trump or Bush administrations done this to. Democrat you’d be pissed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Well when you say it like that it loses its hyperbole and doesn't give neocons much to get riled about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted May 24, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 24, 2020 (edited) No wonder Mango Mussolini couldn’t explain what “Obamagate” is when he was asked. Edited May 24, 2020 by Jimmy Snacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted May 24, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Anler said: Well when you say it like that it loses its hyperbole and doesn't give neocons much to get riled about. It dosnt. ANd anyone who believes these people live in the same world as the rest of us are enjoying nothing more then a fantasy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Just now, steve from amherst said: It dosnt. ANd anyone who believes these people live in the same world as the rest of us are enjoying nothing more then a fantasy. I've never believed that. And if someone had some real dirt history has shown that God would call him home to testify in heaven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted May 24, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 24, 2020 Just now, Anler said: I've never believed that. And if someone had some real dirt history has shown that God would call him home to testify in heaven. Good , reality is a cool place to live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Snake Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 AUSTIN, Texas ― On Aug. 29, The Washington Post published a bombshell report alleging that the Trump administration had orchestrated a campaign to systematically deny passports to Latinos born along the border. “The Trump administration is accusing hundreds, and possibly thousands, of Latinos along the border of using fraudulent birth certificates since they were babies, and it is undertaking a widespread crackdown,” the paper wrote. But the Post withheld key data, mischaracterized information and lobbed an allegation of fraud at a deceased doctor without speaking to his family members, who complained publicly, HuffPost has found. The piece has been substantially altered three times, including Thursday after multiple queries from HuffPost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zambroski Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Sheep trying to keep Obama’s legacy (as they see it) alive. That imbeciles legacy will be re-elected this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 This shit pulled by Barry and his criminal gangster shitstains deserves an entirely new name its way way more criminal than any "Gate" level crime when you try to overthrow a president and try to throw an election. its sedition punishable by death 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Momorider said: This shit pulled by Barry and his criminal gangster shitstains deserves an entirely new name its way way more criminal than any "Gate" level crime when you try to overthrow a president and try to throw an election. its sedition punishable by death no it ain't. Not even in your country fatso. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted May 24, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 24, 2020 39 minutes ago, frenchy said: no it ain't. Not even in your country fatso. He tries so hard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 1 hour ago, frenchy said: no it ain't. Not even in your country fatso. 30 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: He tries so hard. Um. Yeah it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Snake said: AUSTIN, Texas ― On Aug. 29, The Washington Post published a bombshell report alleging that the Trump administration had orchestrated a campaign to systematically deny passports to Latinos born along the border. “The Trump administration is accusing hundreds, and possibly thousands, of Latinos along the border of using fraudulent birth certificates since they were babies, and it is undertaking a widespread crackdown,” the paper wrote. But the Post withheld key data, mischaracterized information and lobbed an allegation of fraud at a deceased doctor without speaking to his family members, who complained publicly, HuffPost has found. The piece has been substantially altered three times, including Thursday after multiple queries from HuffPost. Trump ran on a platform of closing the border and throwing the illegals out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, Phoenix said: Trump ran on a platform of closing the border and throwing the illegals out. yEAH BuT MA chriIStiANITY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Quote The 2nd amendment was created to " DEFEND AGAINST A TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT ". Am I the only fukkin person on this site that believes the last 27 years have actually been tyrannical? CLINTON BUSH OBAMA The Orange bastid The corruption of all of these fukkers, has been abominable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 52 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: yEAH BuT MA chriIStiANITY A religion is not a suicide pact. Neither is a Constitution... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Just make his moron followers think something is going on bad with the Dems. Benghazi. !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 7 hours ago, Polaris 550 said: The 2nd amendment was created to " DEFEND AGAINST A TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT ". Am I the only fukkin person on this site that believes the last 27 years have actually been tyrannical? CLINTON BUSH OBAMA The Orange bastid The corruption of all of these fukkers, has been abominable. Half the people think Clinton and Obama were awesome....the other half feel Bush and Julius are just the best. Fuck all those people 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, f7ben said: Half the people think Clinton and Obama were awesome....the other half feel Bush and Julius are just the best. Fuck all those people All politicians are garbage for the most part!! They have to pretend they are open to all ideas even ones they most likely would never agree with which makes them fake. Edited May 25, 2020 by jtssrx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 On 5/24/2020 at 12:30 PM, frenchy said: no it ain't. Not even in your country fatso. from midget ignoramus On 5/24/2020 at 1:10 PM, Jimmy Snacks said: He tries so hard. More fat fucking homosexual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted May 25, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 25, 2020 31 minutes ago, Momorider said: from midget ignoramus More fat fucking homosexual Says the guy that constantly talks about homosexuals and sodomy....the shiteater doth protest too much methinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 59 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Says the guy that constantly talks about homosexuals and sodomy....the shiteater doth protest too much methinks. and is afraid to post a pic of himself while being a confirmed fat tub of shit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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