Mainecat Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Unfuckingbeleivable........ Reports: Donald Trump Wants His Adult Kids to See America’s Most Carefully Kept Secrets The president-elect reportedly wants to be sure that the family members who will run his business while he runs the country know exactly what is going on. Tim Mak Gideon Resnick 11.14.16 7:40 PM ET Donald Trump is reportedly looking for top-secret clearances for his children, a sign that rather than entering the Oval Office with an eye for avoiding conflicts of interest he’s preparing to rush headlong into a minefield of them. The president-elect has begun asking how he could secure high level clearances for Ivanka, Eric and Donald Jr., his three adult children with first wife Ivana, as well as for Ivanka’s husband Jared Kushner, according to CNN and CBS. All four family members are members of his transition team, though Trump has said his children won’t serve formal roles in his administration but instead will run the family business while he runs the country. “This is why we created the nepotism law in the first place. Huge conflicts of interest. You can’t have your kids being advisers. It has to be properly qualified officials who are experts in the fields,” Bradley Moss, a lawyer specializing in security-clearance law, told The Daily Beast. “It’s an issue of comfort for the President-elect because he’s relied on his children so much. But I don’t foresee a viable legal or ethical loophole or exception.” It’s unclear exactly whether Trump’s request could even be fulfilled—at least legally. A 1967 law prohibits the president from hiring their immediate family members in the federal government, and to have a security clearance an individual must work the government in some capacity: as a civilian, as a military official or a contractor. “Even if they came in as unpaid advisers, there’s no such thing as an informal government position that allows you to be sponsored for access” to classified information, Moss said. “There’s no exception. There’s no loopholes.” And it would difficult to see how Trump could argue that his children have a “need to know” without a formal government role. “This is not the family business, this is the presidency. The days of family nepotism is over, not just due to policy and practice but by law. Security clearances are not candies to be doled out like at Halloween. You must have a ‘need-to-know’ that is supposed to be taken seriously in advancing the business of the government rather than an individual,” said Mark Zaid, another national security lawyer. But a former Obama administration official said Trump could simply be asking for them to be cleared so they can have unescorted access to parts of the West Wing. Even First Ladies have to be cleared to access that part of the White House, but that doesn’t mean they have access to top-secret areas like the Situation Room, the official said, speaking anonymously because he was not authorized to discuss the clearance process publicly. The level of clearance for people with unescorted access to visit the President in the West Wing is known as “Yankee White,” which could be what Trump is seeking. CBS, however, reports that Trump wants his kids to be able to see top secret information, defined as information that could cause “exceptionally grave damage to the national security” if released. If the Trump children ran the Trump Organization while also serving as high-level, informal advisers, their suggested dual roles would invite an unprecedented conflict of interest. “If President-elect Trump seeks a security clearance for his children, it will show he either has no understanding of the potential conflict of interest problems he faces or doesn’t care,” said Larry Noble, general counsel of the Campaign Legal Center. “If he seeks a security clearance for his children who are running the businesses, it will undermine the credibility of any claim that his children will not be involved in advising him on government policies. It raises the real danger that his children will be able to influence government decisions to benefit Trump businesses and run those businesses with inside knowledge of actions and policies the government take.” During an interview with Trump and his family on 60 Minutes taped last week, Eric Trump said that the children would remain in New York to run their father’s business. “So we’ll— we’ll— we’ll be in New York and we’ll take care of the business,” the younger Trump said. “I think we’re going to have a lot of fun doing it. And we’re going to make him very proud.” Ivanka Trump also said that she would not be interested in a formal role in the upcoming administration. “I’m going to be a daughter,” she said when asked about a possible role. “But I’ve— I’ve said throughout the campaign that I am very passionate about certain issues. And that I want to fight for them.” Interestingly enough, while the law prohibits nepotism, it doesn’t require the president to give up his or her business holdings while serving in the Oval Office. Eric, Ivanka, and Donald Trump Jr. did not immediately respond to requests to comment for this story. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/14/trump-wants-secret-clearance-for-kids.html?via=desktop&source=copyurl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Did Chelsea have one when Hillary sent her info about the embassy attack? Seems like a pretty prudent action, considering none of the Clintons or Obamas went through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwytohell Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 hilliary's maid viewed an printed out secret documents , along with her personal clit flicker huma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 He should appoint Jesse Ventura head of the CIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 mc and his fake outrage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Ari Fleischer was on CNN last night and even he thought this was a shit idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, Anler said: He should appoint Jesse Ventura head of the CIA Jesse needs to eat a bullet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 Just now, ICEMAN! said: Ari Fleischer was on CNN last night and even he thought this was a shit idea. It is a shit idea. National security? It looks like Trump wants no part of the day to day presidency. He wants to live away from the white house but still have rallies like a dictator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted November 15, 2016 Gold Member Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) Cant he just leave somebody in charge when he leaves the whitehouse???? Wonder what obama does when he leaves the whitehouse.... he is like out of country right now. Edited November 15, 2016 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 13 minutes ago, Mainecat said: It is a shit idea. National security? It looks like Trump wants no part of the day to day presidency. He wants to live away from the white house but still have rallies like a dictator. Why are you so verclempt? You had no issue whatsoever about Sydney Blumenthal spreading state secrets all over the internet... when he had NO CLEARANCE? At least try to not be such a hypocritical fuck with all these butthurt threads, it really is embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted November 15, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 15, 2016 Donald Trump is reportedly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Donald Trump is reportedly I did hear it was discussed as a question he asked as far as policy is concerned.... more so than "I want them to have them." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 8 minutes ago, Snake said: I did hear it was discussed as a question he asked as far as policy is concerned.... more so than "I want them to have them." #1 You don't know the answer for sure until you ask the question... makes sense to ask. If the answer is no the answer is no #2 Kind of seems like the prudent thing to do given the past scenarios - Clinton came under fire for not understanding the confidentiality levels - Clinton is / was being investigated regarding "inadvertently" sharing secrets (perhaps with the maid even) - Donald is apparently a family man who spends significant time with his family - should something inadvertently slip out perhaps at the dinner table or an overheard conversation.... then it's okay if they already have the security clearance. Do you really think Obama never spoke to his wife about things that may have been considered secret.... if you think not then you are a fool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Snake said: I did hear it was discussed as a question he asked as far as policy is concerned.... more so than "I want them to have them." Yes, this is how I understood it as well, but the resident minions need to be spoon fed their information.....GRUBERED! Edited November 15, 2016 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Reports: Donald Trump Wants His Adult Kids to See America’s Most Carefully Kept Secrets So tell us Dick.... what secrets does Trump want to the kids to see? This is one more example of: A. The vast ignorance on the part of the public that thinks a security clearance grants access. B. An alt-left website using untrue and hyperbolic rhetoric. C. The gullibleness of our senior citizens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, Snake said: Reports: Donald Trump Wants His Adult Kids to See America’s Most Carefully Kept Secrets So tell us Dick.... what secrets does Trump want to the kids to see? This is one more example of: A. The vast ignorance on the part of the public that thinks a security clearance grants access. B. An alt-left website using untrue and hyperbolic rhetoric. C. The gullibleness of our senior citizens. The headlines accomplished the intended result. Minions like mc took the bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFMAN Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-didnt-ask-for-top-secret-clearance-for-his-kids-official/ar-AAkiPRP?li=BBnb7Kz Wrong AGAIN MC........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev144 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Wow is mc really stupid enough to post up hearsay as fact? Fuck he gets burned in every lame thread he starts. Poor Magoo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 13 minutes ago, Kev144 said: Wow is mc really stupid enough to post up hearsay as fact? Fuck he gets burned in every lame thread he starts. Poor Magoo! Think about it this way, for every mc in the world there are 5 others that don't have a site like this to show them how grubered they actually are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Poor MC... can't even make one thread without being torn limb from limb because he can't post verifiably accurate info. This class, is what is wrong with social media based news. Fucking idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 CBS News- http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-team-seeks-top-secret-security-clearances-for-trump-children/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 Just now, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Poor MC... can't even make one thread without being torn limb from limb because he can't post verifiably accurate info. This class, is what is wrong with social media based news. Fucking idiot Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Just now, Mainecat said: Really? Yes really. You have a big problem with posting blatantly biased bull shit then sitting back and claiming independent status. You can't make your own claims and the ones you try to do you back with poorly written propaganda. By no means are you the only one, but you are definitely captain of the S.S No Clue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, Mainecat said: CBS News- http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-team-seeks-top-secret-security-clearances-for-trump-children/ President-elect Donald Trump is potentially seeking top secret security clearances for his children, sources tell CBS News. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 Just now, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Yes really. You have a big problem with posting blatantly biased bull shit then sitting back and claiming independent status. You can't make your own claims and the ones you try to do you back with poorly written propaganda. By no means are you the only one, but you are definitely captain of the S.S No Clue... FOX News? Come on Trump slurper. When are you gonna speak against him? He disses the veterans and you are OK with it. He wants his kids who will be running his company to have top secret clearance and your OK with that? WTF? http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/11/14/megyn-kelly-presses-newt-gingrich-donald-trumps-children-getting-security-clearances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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