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1 hour ago, Highmark said:

I compared a doo gade xrs to the RR 137.   My numbers are directly off both websites build your own.   They are accurate.   Again can you get any discount from the dealer on Cats spring orders?  Don't avoid the question.

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Those prices aren't very accurate on the XRS and XC. They borh list MSRP where the Cat shows snow check price 

1 hour ago, Kev144 said:

Keep in mind you get 4 yr warranty on doo and poo and one on cat.  Cat wanted 1500 cad for another year warranty 

SMH

1 hour ago, Highmark said:

You only get 1 year warranty with the Cats?  :lol:  

Yep and it's a snow check only sled. 

1 hour ago, Highmark said:

I'm not upset I'm just posting real numbers.   You are probably comparing doo canadian prices to cat American prices.  :lol:  

Post up both your numbers like I did.   Again can you get any spring discount off MSRP when ordering a Cat?  

I got a price last year of $14,051.11 OTD for a black '20 Renegade XRS with 1.25" RipSaw1 and no quick adjust.  Add tax , freight and prep ,and the other fees to that Cat snow check price and you're less than $500 difference compared to the XRS. Even if you swap out the RS1 for an RS2 like I did, the cost is less than $150 when you resell the RS1. 

 

SkiDoo ftw

1 hour ago, ACE said:

Let’s figure it out 

HP and speed difference? Negligible 

handling— cat 

suspension— advantage cat 

shock package— clearly cat 

comfort— subjective.depends on riders build 

fuel economy— not sure. The cat is good

oil economy- cat by far 
price? Cat by far 

belt life— cat 

trade difference- again, cat 

Why am I paying 5 grand more for a doo again? 
 

 

:lmao:

1 hour ago, Kev144 said:

1 year warranty. Extra 3 will cost about 4500

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52 minutes ago, thewayout said:

Build quality - doo 

resale - doo

engine - clearly doo. Ctec is good, but not even close to etec good. The midrange power of the 850 is night and day better then the ctec and I drove 2 of them this weekend. Run quality is better overall on the etec.

eros - personally being 6’3” the plastics on the cat annoy the shit out of me. Doo eros are better, Polaris are the best for me. 
 

front suspension - cat 


rear suspension - doo r motion ftw

fuel economy - doo 850 wins compared to 2 ctecs. 
 

Doo gives you a 4 year warranty on snowchecked sleds, cat is only 1 which is ridiculous.
 

overall, the saying “you get what you pay for” holds true. You pay for premium build quality and QC. That being said Brian’s RR is nice. The 19 limited Brian’s buddy has is a piece of shit in comparison. Shit is falling apart on it already with under 800 miles and he doesn’t ride hard at all. 

 

Yep.

 

No excuse for that at all 👎🏼

39 minutes ago, Doos said:

So Cat is dropping their pants on pricing, falling even further behind in sales, and only building spring order sleds? Sounds like things are going really well, sound business model.

Yep 

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5 minutes ago, Edmo said:

Arctic Cat butt hurt is almost as bad as Trump around here FFS. :lmao: 

Just posting a review, everyone is free to express their opinions. Just seems that no matter how last in class an Arctic Cat is the same people are going to love it. :lol: 

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2 minutes ago, SVT MXZ XRS said:

Those prices aren't very accurate on the XRS and XC. They borh list MSRP where the Cat shows snow check price 

SMH

Yep and it's a snow check only sled. 

I got a price last year of $14,051.11 OTD for a black '20 Renegade XRS with 1.25" RipSaw1 and no quick adjust.  Add tax , freight and prep ,and the other fees to that Cat snow check price and you're less than $500 difference compared to the XRS. Even if you swap out the RS1 for an RS2 like I did, the cost is less than $150 when you resell the RS1. 

 

SkiDoo ftw

:lmao:

😲

Yep.

 

No excuse for that at all 👎🏼

Yep 

Plus 3 years more warranty.  

I just like the fact that Doo sticks it to Nooks.   :lol:   That will keep me smiling all day.  

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50 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

I just built comparable sleds...ZR800RR and a Renegade XRS...the Cat is just over 3000.00 less.

20% HUUGE

46 minutes ago, thewayout said:

Again, there’s nothing wrong with the RR, it’s a sweet sled, but for 3k more you get better resale, better build quality, an 850 DI engine, 4 years of warranty, and an updated chassis that was recently completely redesigned. i think that price difference is easily justified imo. 

It's not $3,000.00 better, sorry about your luck :lol2:

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2 minutes ago, Anler said:

Just posting a review, everyone is free to express their opinions. Just seems that no matter how last in class an Arctic Cat is the same people are going to love it. :lol: 

Vince and Buss sure have the Kermit the Frog disease bad. :lmao:

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6 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said:

20% HUUGE

It's not $3,000.00 better, sorry about your luck :lol2:

Yes, the warranty alone makes it that much better. Imagine having a 2 stroke 800 of any manu. after the warranty expires, you have to cross your fingers, carry a rabbit's foot and a bag of 4 leaf clovers in hopes it doesn't grenade on you. :lol:

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Just now, snoughnut said:

Vince and Buss sure have the Kermit the Frog disease bad. :lmao:

OMG its so miserable being a cat guy that they were euphoric when my Polaris broke down. Who wants to be like that? I think they need meds. 

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6 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Plus 3 years more warranty.  

 

I just like the fact that Doo sticks it to Nooks.   :lol:   That will keep me smiling all day.  

Yep. And everything Drew listed 

 

I'd be pissed if I was a Nook Thankfully we're not :lol: :owned:

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1 hour ago, Mileage Psycho said:

I rode a 2020 in December, it corners flatter and better than my 2018, it's impressive as Mark said in the video.

It's obvious that there are many who get the meany greenies going when they think of the Cat green..........so sad when the solution is to just go out and get trade there inferior product for what really works.

Yeah, new front end is supposed to be some kinda hot shit for sure.  I’m gonna find out.

Meh...it’s my experience it’s mainly just the Poo guys that be all hatin’.  They are an ornery bunch for sure.  Silly children!  :lmao:

 

 

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Now the prices I quoted were both off the respective websites...obviously different dealers give better deals  but pretty sure the Cat prices are fairly firm so that 3000.00 could be smaller in some cases.

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1 hour ago, snoughnut said:

Yes, the warranty alone makes it that much better. Imagine having a 2 stroke 800 of any manu. after the warranty expires, you have to cross your fingers, carry a rabbit's foot and a bag of 4 leaf clovers in hopes it doesn't grenade on you. :lol:

I can't believe that so many people have engine issues.   From my Wildcat in 92 until now I've never had a motor failure issue with a 2 stroke other than my 01 Tcat which was 15+ yrs old at the time I popped it.   Everything else has been bulletproof.  15+ different 2 strokes of all brands, almost all had over 3000 miles when sold and never had to replace 1 engine part because of a failure. 

Seems to me people need to take better care of things like using quality oil/gas, letting them warm up before going ripping down the trail and proper off season preparation.     

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Just now, Jimmy Snacks said:

Now the prices I quoted were both off the respective websites...obviously different dealers give better deals  but pretty sure the Cat prices are fairly firm so that 3000.00 could be smaller in some cases.

Just like I posted above both doo dealers in my area give $1500 off spring orders.   Add in 3 more years warranty and the Poo/Doo is a better deal in my books.  

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18 minutes ago, snoughnut said:

Yes, the warranty alone makes it that much better. Imagine having a 2 stroke 800 of any manu. after the warranty expires, you have to cross your fingers, carry a rabbit's foot and a bag of 4 leaf clovers in hopes it doesn't grenade on you. :lol:

Or just carry spare parts and the platinum card. :lol:

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15 minutes ago, Anler said:

OMG its so miserable being a cat guy that they were euphoric when my Polaris broke down. Who wants to be like that? I think they need meds. 

We’re you nerds just fingering your buttholes the other day about the rumour of a ctec2 going down :lol: 

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Just now, Highmark said:

I can't believe that many people have engine issues.   From my Wildcat in 92 until now I've never had a motor failure issue with a 2 stroke other than my 01 Tcat which was 15+ yrs old at the time I popped it.   Everything else has been bulletproof.  15+ different 2 strokes almost all had over 3000 miles when sold and never had to replace 1 engine part because of a failure. 

Seems to me people need to take better care of things better like using quality oil/gas, letting them warm up before going ripping down the trail.   

Now there's a monumental feat.........woah!!! 3000 miles!!!!  :lmao:When 800's get over 5000 miles on them you know it's lucky charms time. 

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Just now, snoughnut said:

Now there's a monumental feat.........woah!!! 3000 miles!!!!  :lmao:When 800's get over 5000 miles on them you know it's lucky charms time. 

Lot's of reports of failures on much less than 3000 miles.

I count 3000 miles on a sled like 100K on a vehicle.   Time to dump it.  :thumbsup:

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2 minutes ago, ACE said:

We’re you nerds just fingering your buttholes the other day about the rumour of a ctec2 going down :lol: 

No that was dru, I dont celebrate others misfortune. 

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19 minutes ago, snoughnut said:

Vince and Buss sure have the Kermit the Frog disease bad. :lmao:

No, others, mainly Analer and the Doo Kool Aid drinkers have off the charts ACDS. This thread is exact proof of it. :lol: 

 

Drew and I switched sleds for awhile. There is more in common with the two than different. Within minutes were both comfortably riding the other sled hard.  I really liked Doo’s engine better, but I liked my handling and shock set up better. But neither the Doo handling or Cat engine are bad. But not a chance in hell is his Doo worth paying that much more for especially seeing it still is in the dark ages literally with those shitty headlights. 

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28 minutes ago, Anler said:

Just posting a review, everyone is free to express their opinions. Just seems that no matter how last in class an Arctic Cat is the same people are going to love it. :lol: 

You make more threads triggered by Cat than Spin and Snacks do combined about Trump, get ahold of yourself. :lol: 

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1 minute ago, bussman said:

No, others, mainly Analer and the Doo Kool Aid drinkers have off the charts ACDS. This thread is exact proof of it. :lol: 

 

Drew and I switched sleds for awhile. There is more in common with the two than different. Within minutes were both comfortably riding the other sled hard.  I really liked Doo’s engine better, but I liked my handling and shock set up better. But neither the Doo handling or Cat engine are bad. But not a chance in hell is his Doo worth paying that much more for especially seeing it still is in the dark ages literally with those shitty headlights. 

Oh man you are butt hurt! :lol: 

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Just now, bussman said:

You make more threads triggered by Cat than Spin and Snacks do combined about Trump, get ahold of yourself. :lol: 

Its better than arguing about politics! :bc: 

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