Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 18, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: TRue, but the mentally ill are killing people that someone cares is dead. No one gives a fuck about some dead gangbanger. I just don't buy mental illness is a significant portion of our murder rate. There might be more people diagnosed as having a mental disorder today but the percentage of people likely having one as stayed relatively flat. Your last statement is wrong too. Lots of gangbangers have children. Ever see the statistics of kids without fathers? Sometimes even good parents can't keep their kids from going down that path either. I don't feel sorry for the gang guy who gets killed but his children and sometimes his family I do. Edited February 18, 2020 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Angry ginger said: if all the mentally ill people were off the streets they would be empty. Along with the White House and Capitol Hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Why even ask you fucking idiot...WTF. Reagan did cut funding...sorry facts hurt your pea brain. LOL Do you have something to add to the conversation? Prove how Reagan cut the funding or stop trying to make this political. And the MHSA was only in effect for 1 year, so to reference that is idiotic and another partisan hack. Edited February 18, 2020 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, Highmark said: I just don't buy mental illness is a significant portion of our murder rate. There might be more people diagnosed as having a mental disorder today but the percentage of people likely having one as stayed relatively flat. Your last statement is wrong too. Lots of gangbangers have children. Ever see the statistics of kids without fathers? Sometimes even good parents can't keep their kids from going down that path either. I don't feel sorry for the gang guy who gets killed but his children and sometimes his family I do. Very true. Mentally ill are typically the victims. They tend to meek with poor support. There’s really only two forms of mental illness that results in violence. Paranoid schizophrenia and bipolar w/delusions. Both are very treatable with meds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 30 minutes ago, Highmark said: Remove or reduce drug/gang related murder and ours is as low as any western society. Mental illness is not a significant portion of our countries murder rate. Despite that, America’s violent crime rate is extremely low and has had an a most vertical path downward since the “90’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Very true. Mentally ill are typically the victims. They tend to meek with poor support. There’s really only two forms of mental illness that results in violence. Paranoid schizophrenia and bipolar w/delusions. Both are very treatable with meds. And what happens when the patient doesn't take the meds? Then what? Relying on the patient to self medicate sounds like a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 18, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, racer254 said: LOL Do you have something to add to the conversation? Prove how Reagan cut the funding or stop trying to make this political. And the MHSA was only in effect for 1 year, so to reference that is idiotic and another partisan hack. Absolutely...I called you a fucking idiot but on second thought that really isn’t adding anything since it goes without saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 18, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, racer254 said: And what happens when the patient doesn't take the meds? Then what? Relying on the patient to self medicate sounds like a problem WTF are you adding other than more questions and hypotheticals. You dismiss facts and ask stupid fucking questions. Edited February 18, 2020 by Jimmy Snacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, racer254 said: And what happens when the patient doesn't take the meds? Then what? Relying on the patient to self medicate sounds like a problem Wisconsin has a chapter 51 board for court commitments. Unless there’s a judges order due to a danger to self and/or others, an individual has a right to reject medication. This is still america. Edited February 18, 2020 by spin_dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 19, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 19, 2020 10 hours ago, spin_dry said: Despite that, America’s violent crime rate is extremely low and has had an a most vertical path downward since the “90’s. Yep. We started keeping violent offenders in prison longer. Majority of violent crime are repeat offenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 Speaking of mentally ill: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/juliette-parker-accused-drugging-new-mom-cupcake-trying-to-steal-baby-washington-state/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old indy Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 23 hours ago, steve from amherst said: Big surprise. Normal people don't kill other people. Well in reality some "other people" DO deserve it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted February 19, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 19, 2020 24 minutes ago, old indy said: Well in reality some "other people" DO deserve it..... true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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